OT- Windows mapping question

Norman,

Sorry if this is a repeat of something you've already been told. I
didn't have time to read every response but I will take the time to let
you know what we did because it may save you and others a lot of time
in the future..

Using a specific server name will give you grief down the road in the
following areas and there may be more that I haven't considered.

-- UNC paths in default.mfgsys will become obsolete when you move the
backend.
-- links to custom crytstal reports that you attach to the menu will be
wrong.
-- Connection strings and/or ODBC DSNs in your custom Crystal reports
will be wrong.


These things can be avoided by creating a DNS alias using a CNAME
entry. We called ours simply ERP and ERPDB. We added the second alias
called ERPDB anticipating that we'll enventually split the application
and database servers when 10Gb ethernet is commonly available and
affordable.

In our default.mfgsys files, we reference the app server thusly:

<AppServerURL value="AppServerDC://ERP:3091" />
<deploymentServer uri="\\ERP\epicor\mfgsys80" />

Custom report links look like this:

\\erp\epicor\mfgsys80\server\reports\reportname.rpt

Crystal connection strings look like this:

Driver={SQL
Server};Server=ERPDB;Database=mfgsys80;Trusted_Connection=yes;"

One thing to note, you may have to make a registry change to use the
alias as a Windows share. The following article explains how to do it:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281308/

By using the alias, you can change out your servers with no impact to
your clients or custom menu items and write reports that can be
deployed to multiple locations without modification.

Brad


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Norman Hutchins" <nhutchins@...> wrote:
>
> So now that someone has deciphered my question (thank you!) and
> one could any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Norman
>
>
>
> _____
Hi,



We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.



We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon merit.



Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year (nasdaq
:HITT). We opened at 17, stock is trading at over 40.
(http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).



Hope to hear from you,



Steve Wirch



Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824



(978)250-3343



www.hittite.com <http://www.hittite.com/>





Systems Analyst / ERP Administrator



Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be exposed to
all stages of the ERP systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects including
ERP support, data base development, and web based applications.



The primary responsibility will be ERP support, develop ERP management
reports customization of standard reports, and expansion of use of ERP
and functionality. Will work primarily with our operations and finance
groups.



Experience with using a variety of windows based systems with a Progress
back-end will be beneficial. ERP experience, including strong business
understanding of accounting, inventory, purchasing, sales, and order
entry is required. The ability to sit with a user and understand their
systems needs (what report to generate, etc.) is crucial. Must have ODBC
experience and be able to hook Excel into databases. Experience with MS
Office and/or Crystal for reporting purposes would be a plus.



Approximate breakdown of responsibilities:



50% database/report/spreadsheet creation

30% user interaction/requirements gathering and project management

20% programming



Candidate will get involved with web development projects and other
applications utilizing Visual Basic, VBScript, Java, JavaScript, ASP,
PHP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is being explored for
newer applications. We use SQL Server 2000 and 2005 databases as well
as MySQL.



Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5 years
applicable experience.



Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our external
web site with e-commerce.



The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external web
site.



The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs (what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.



Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic, VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is
being used for new applications.



Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5 years
applicable experience.







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Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
may be.



Thanks,



Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator



Howell Laboratories, Inc.



'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
- ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Wirch
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for a Permanent Position Programmer in
Boston Area



Hi,

We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due
to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.

We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock
options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon
merit.

Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year
(nasdaq
:HITT). We opened at 17, stock is trading at over 40.
(http://finance. <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).

Hope to hear from you,

Steve Wirch

Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824

(978)250-3343

www.hittite.com <http://www.hittite. <http://www.hittite.com/>
com/>

Systems Analyst / ERP Administrator

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the ERP systems development. This is an opportunity
to
work on a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects
including
ERP support, data base development, and web based applications.

The primary responsibility will be ERP support, develop ERP
management
reports customization of standard reports, and expansion of use
of ERP
and functionality. Will work primarily with our operations and
finance
groups.

Experience with using a variety of windows based systems with a
Progress
back-end will be beneficial. ERP experience, including strong
business
understanding of accounting, inventory, purchasing, sales, and
order
entry is required. The ability to sit with a user and understand
their
systems needs (what report to generate, etc.) is crucial. Must
have ODBC
experience and be able to hook Excel into databases. Experience
with MS
Office and/or Crystal for reporting purposes would be a plus.

Approximate breakdown of responsibilities:

50% database/report/spreadsheet creation

30% user interaction/requirements gathering and project
management

20% programming

Candidate will get involved with web development projects and
other
applications utilizing Visual Basic, VBScript, Java, JavaScript,
ASP,
PHP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is being
explored for
newer applications. We use SQL Server 2000 and 2005 databases as
well
as MySQL.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our
external
web site with e-commerce.

The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will
center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects
will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external
web
site.

The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs
(what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.

Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic,
VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as
that is
being used for new applications.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

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May not be exactly what you are looking for but I make it a point to reference things like this via mapped drive letters - much like I do for Vantage itself. We have shared folder trees on a NAS box which are refered to by standard drive letters (S=Sales, Q=Quality, etc...). The NAS box is going to be replaced soon and the new one will get the same "server" name as the failing box so the UNC in the drive mapping won't change and the users will never know the difference. Worst case if the server name changed would be a one time batch file for users to run to change the mapping on their PC. But the myriad references in Vantage would not be need to be touched.
-Todd C.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question



Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
may be.

Thanks,

Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator

Howell Laboratories, Inc.

'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
- ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of Steve Wirch
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for a Permanent Position Programmer in
Boston Area

Hi,

We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due
to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.

We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock
options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon
merit.

Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year
(nasdaq
:HITT). We opened at 17, stock is trading at over 40.
( http://finance. < http://finance. <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y> yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).

Hope to hear from you,

Steve Wirch

Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824

(978)250-3343

www.hittite.com < http://www.hittite. < http://www.hittite. <http://www.hittite.com/> com/>
com/>

Systems Analyst / ERP Administrator

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the ERP systems development. This is an opportunity
to
work on a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects
including
ERP support, data base development, and web based applications.

The primary responsibility will be ERP support, develop ERP
management
reports customization of standard reports, and expansion of use
of ERP
and functionality. Will work primarily with our operations and
finance
groups.

Experience with using a variety of windows based systems with a
Progress
back-end will be beneficial. ERP experience, including strong
business
understanding of accounting, inventory, purchasing, sales, and
order
entry is required. The ability to sit with a user and understand
their
systems needs (what report to generate, etc.) is crucial. Must
have ODBC
experience and be able to hook Excel into databases. Experience
with MS
Office and/or Crystal for reporting purposes would be a plus.

Approximate breakdown of responsibilities:

50% database/report/spreadsheet creation

30% user interaction/requirements gathering and project
management

20% programming

Candidate will get involved with web development projects and
other
applications utilizing Visual Basic, VBScript, Java, JavaScript,
ASP,
PHP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is being
explored for
newer applications. We use SQL Server 2000 and 2005 databases as
well
as MySQL.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our
external
web site with e-commerce.

The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will
center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects
will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external
web
site.

The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs
(what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.

Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic,
VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as
that is
being used for new applications.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

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Is the reason for a failing drive or is there something more serious?
What is the OS?
You might be able to pull off some interesting things depending on the OS
and the specific problem you are trying to overcome. Can you give any
further details?
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question


Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
may be.

Thanks,

Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator

Howell Laboratories, Inc.

'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
- ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Wirch
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for a Permanent Position Programmer in
Boston Area

Hi,

We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due
to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.

We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock
options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon
merit.

Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year
(nasdaq
:HITT). We opened at 17, stock is trading at over 40.
(http://finance. <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).

Hope to hear from you,

Steve Wirch

Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824

(978)250-3343

www.hittite.com <http://www.hittite. <http://www.hittite.com/>
com/>

Systems Analyst / ERP Administrator

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the ERP systems development. This is an opportunity
to
work on a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects
including
ERP support, data base development, and web based applications.

The primary responsibility will be ERP support, develop ERP
management
reports customization of standard reports, and expansion of use
of ERP
and functionality. Will work primarily with our operations and
finance
groups.

Experience with using a variety of windows based systems with a
Progress
back-end will be beneficial. ERP experience, including strong
business
understanding of accounting, inventory, purchasing, sales, and
order
entry is required. The ability to sit with a user and understand
their
systems needs (what report to generate, etc.) is crucial. Must
have ODBC
experience and be able to hook Excel into databases. Experience
with MS
Office and/or Crystal for reporting purposes would be a plus.

Approximate breakdown of responsibilities:

50% database/report/spreadsheet creation

30% user interaction/requirements gathering and project
management

20% programming

Candidate will get involved with web development projects and
other
applications utilizing Visual Basic, VBScript, Java, JavaScript,
ASP,
PHP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is being
explored for
newer applications. We use SQL Server 2000 and 2005 databases as
well
as MySQL.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our
external
web site with e-commerce.

The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will
center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects
will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external
web
site.

The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs
(what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.

Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic,
VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as
that is
being used for new applications.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

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Well right now I have an old NT server that is just really being
used for file storage and is quickly getting to small and would
like to replace it with a NAS or some friendlier than windows NT.
The second part is that I have other files that I would like to
move there also that are currently being stored on another NT
server. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would like
to move files from two NT severs to a NAS and not lose the UNC
for the files.



Hope that makes some since.



Norman



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Hoyt
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question



Is the reason for a failing drive or is there something more
serious?
What is the OS?
You might be able to pull off some interesting things depending
on the OS
and the specific problem you are trying to overcome. Can you give
any
further details?
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com]On Behalf Of
Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question

Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
may be.

Thanks,

Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator

Howell Laboratories, Inc.

'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
- ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Wirch
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for a Permanent Position Programmer in
Boston Area

Hi,

We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due
to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.

We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock
options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon
merit.

Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year
(nasdaq
:HITT). We opened at 17, stock is trading at over 40.
(http://finance. <http://finance.
<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).

Hope to hear from you,

Steve Wirch

Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824

(978)250-3343

www.hittite.com <http://www.hittite. <http://www.hittite.
<http://www.hittite.com/> com/>
com/>

Systems Analyst / ERP Administrator

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the ERP systems development. This is an opportunity
to
work on a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects
including
ERP support, data base development, and web based applications.

The primary responsibility will be ERP support, develop ERP
management
reports customization of standard reports, and expansion of use
of ERP
and functionality. Will work primarily with our operations and
finance
groups.

Experience with using a variety of windows based systems with a
Progress
back-end will be beneficial. ERP experience, including strong
business
understanding of accounting, inventory, purchasing, sales, and
order
entry is required. The ability to sit with a user and understand
their
systems needs (what report to generate, etc.) is crucial. Must
have ODBC
experience and be able to hook Excel into databases. Experience
with MS
Office and/or Crystal for reporting purposes would be a plus.

Approximate breakdown of responsibilities:

50% database/report/spreadsheet creation

30% user interaction/requirements gathering and project
management

20% programming

Candidate will get involved with web development projects and
other
applications utilizing Visual Basic, VBScript, Java, JavaScript,
ASP,
PHP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is being
explored for
newer applications. We use SQL Server 2000 and 2005 databases as
well
as MySQL.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our
external
web site with e-commerce.

The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will
center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects
will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external
web
site.

The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs
(what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.

Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic,
VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as
that is
being used for new applications.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

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Another thought...and bear with me I am light on networking stuff....but once you are ready to cut over could you maybe make entries in the HOSTS files on your PCs (a one time process) and point the old names at the IP address of the new server? This would be a sort of alias I think. If memory serves me you can have multiple "names" for one IP address. Also (and this is way out on a limb for me) if you are running your own DNS server perhaps have it associate the old names to a new IP address for the NAS box. I would not have a clue how to do that though.

-Todd C.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question



Well right now I have an old NT server that is just really being
used for file storage and is quickly getting to small and would
like to replace it with a NAS or some friendlier than windows NT.
The second part is that I have other files that I would like to
move there also that are currently being stored on another NT
server. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would like
to move files from two NT severs to a NAS and not lose the UNC
for the files.

Hope that makes some since.

Norman

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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Hoyt
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question

Is the reason for a failing drive or is there something more
serious?
What is the OS?
You might be able to pull off some interesting things depending
on the OS
and the specific problem you are trying to overcome. Can you give
any
further details?
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com]On Behalf Of
Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question

Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
may be.

Thanks,

Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator

Howell Laboratories, Inc.

'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
- ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953

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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Wirch
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for a Permanent Position Programmer in
Boston Area

Hi,

We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due
to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.

We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock
options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon
merit.

Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year
(nasdaq
:HITT). We opened at 17, stock is trading at over 40.
( http://finance. < http://finance.
< http://finance. <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y> yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).

Hope to hear from you,

Steve Wirch

Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824

(978)250-3343

www.hittite.com < http://www.hittite. < http://www.hittite.
< http://www.hittite. <http://www.hittite.com/> com/> com/>
com/>

Systems Analyst / ERP Administrator

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the ERP systems development. This is an opportunity
to
work on a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects
including
ERP support, data base development, and web based applications.

The primary responsibility will be ERP support, develop ERP
management
reports customization of standard reports, and expansion of use
of ERP
and functionality. Will work primarily with our operations and
finance
groups.

Experience with using a variety of windows based systems with a
Progress
back-end will be beneficial. ERP experience, including strong
business
understanding of accounting, inventory, purchasing, sales, and
order
entry is required. The ability to sit with a user and understand
their
systems needs (what report to generate, etc.) is crucial. Must
have ODBC
experience and be able to hook Excel into databases. Experience
with MS
Office and/or Crystal for reporting purposes would be a plus.

Approximate breakdown of responsibilities:

50% database/report/spreadsheet creation

30% user interaction/requirements gathering and project
management

20% programming

Candidate will get involved with web development projects and
other
applications utilizing Visual Basic, VBScript, Java, JavaScript,
ASP,
PHP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is being
explored for
newer applications. We use SQL Server 2000 and 2005 databases as
well
as MySQL.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our
external
web site with e-commerce.

The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will
center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects
will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external
web
site.

The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs
(what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.

Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic,
VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as
that is
being used for new applications.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

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This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like SQL's
Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find and replace.
Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path. This would
take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am tempted to
migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of convenient, direct
access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is telling me
that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or why.

Todd Hofert
IT Director
Spartan Graphics, Inc.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question



Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
may be.

Thanks,

Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator

Howell Laboratories, Inc.

'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
- ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Steve Wirch
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for a Permanent Position Programmer in
Boston Area

Hi,

We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due
to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.

We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock
options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon
merit.

Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year
(nasdaq
:HITT). We opened at 17, stock is trading at over 40.
(http://finance. <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y
<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y> >
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).

Hope to hear from you,

Steve Wirch

Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824

(978)250-3343

www.hittite.com <http://www.hittite. <http://www.hittite.com/
<http://www.hittite.com/> >
com/>

Systems Analyst / ERP Administrator

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the ERP systems development. This is an opportunity
to
work on a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects
including
ERP support, data base development, and web based applications.

The primary responsibility will be ERP support, develop ERP
management
reports customization of standard reports, and expansion of use
of ERP
and functionality. Will work primarily with our operations and
finance
groups.

Experience with using a variety of windows based systems with a
Progress
back-end will be beneficial. ERP experience, including strong
business
understanding of accounting, inventory, purchasing, sales, and
order
entry is required. The ability to sit with a user and understand
their
systems needs (what report to generate, etc.) is crucial. Must
have ODBC
experience and be able to hook Excel into databases. Experience
with MS
Office and/or Crystal for reporting purposes would be a plus.

Approximate breakdown of responsibilities:

50% database/report/spreadsheet creation

30% user interaction/requirements gathering and project
management

20% programming

Candidate will get involved with web development projects and
other
applications utilizing Visual Basic, VBScript, Java, JavaScript,
ASP,
PHP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as that is being
explored for
newer applications. We use SQL Server 2000 and 2005 databases as
well
as MySQL.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our
external
web site with e-commerce.

The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will
center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects
will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external
web
site.

The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs
(what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.

Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic,
VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as
that is
being used for new applications.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

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Hi, New to Vantage (8) but want to check with all the experts on a problem.

The company I am working at has a lot of Purchase parts on their old system which have Bills of Material. Because these BOM's are sent to vendors, kept for history and revision controlled they wish to have these Bill of Materials migrated to Vantage. Based on the training and advice we've received, it appears Vantage treats this situation much differently than their old system. The old system ignored the structure all together (MRP, costing and production)

In Vantage when doing a cost roll- the Bill of Material structure will be rolled up, creating a standard cost (calculated) for the Purchase part. We don't want that - we want to manually set the cost for the Purchase part (basically treat it as a "normal" purchase part).

Since Vantage will do a cost roll up on the Purchase part's BOM and other "gotchas" (planning for example) it looks like we need some cleaver work around. Basically we would want the system to ignore the Bill of Material for the Purchase part.

So (and this is where you come in)....

Does anyone have PartMtl records for Parts set to Purchased? If so - how do you not have a cost roll up done on them? What about MRP? Production? (as a side note - this company has hundreds of this situation, so manually fixing them after a cost roll is out of the question).

Thanks in advance,

Chris Jones
Ask On Consulting
Somewhere in Mass...



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What happens if you don't approve the rev?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Jones <askon@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, New to Vantage (8) but want to check with all the experts on a
problem.
>
> The company I am working at has a lot of Purchase parts on their
old system which have Bills of Material. Because these BOM's are sent
to vendors, kept for history and revision controlled they wish to
have these Bill of Materials migrated to Vantage. Based on the
training and advice we've received, it appears Vantage treats this
situation much differently than their old system. The old system
ignored the structure all together (MRP, costing and production)
>
> In Vantage when doing a cost roll- the Bill of Material structure
will be rolled up, creating a standard cost (calculated) for the
Purchase part. We don't want that - we want to manually set the cost
for the Purchase part (basically treat it as a "normal" purchase
part).
>
> Since Vantage will do a cost roll up on the Purchase part's BOM and
other "gotchas" (planning for example) it looks like we need some
cleaver work around. Basically we would want the system to ignore the
Bill of Material for the Purchase part.
>
> So (and this is where you come in)....
>
> Does anyone have PartMtl records for Parts set to Purchased? If so -
how do you not have a cost roll up done on them? What about MRP?
Production? (as a side note - this company has hundreds of this
situation, so manually fixing them after a cost roll is out of the
question).
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chris Jones
> Ask On Consulting
> Somewhere in Mass...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Norman,

Since you are consolidating from 2 servers to 1, I would recommend
that you bite the bullet and change the UNC on all of the clients.
It will be cleaner and performance will be better (no searching HOST
files for locations). If not you will spend months running around
updating HOST files.

my $.02.

Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@...> wrote:
>
> This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like SQL's
> Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find and
replace.
> Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path. This
would
> take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am
tempted to
> migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of convenient,
direct
> access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is telling
me
> that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or why.
>
> Todd Hofert
> IT Director
> Spartan Graphics, Inc.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Norman Hutchins
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question
>
>
>
> Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
> names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
> in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
> move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
> server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
> may be.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Norman Hutchins Jr.
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Howell Laboratories, Inc.
>
> 'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
> in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
> something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
> - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953
>
Change the UNC on each client? Can you explain? Not sure I
understand.



Norman



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of maurojm
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:44 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question



Norman,

Since you are consolidating from 2 servers to 1, I would
recommend
that you bite the bullet and change the UNC on all of the
clients.
It will be cleaner and performance will be better (no searching
HOST
files for locations). If not you will spend months running around

updating HOST files.

my $.02.

Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@...> wrote:
>
> This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like
SQL's
> Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find and
replace.
> Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path.
This
would
> take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am
tempted to
> migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of convenient,
direct
> access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is
telling
me
> that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or why.
>
> Todd Hofert
> IT Director
> Spartan Graphics, Inc.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
> Of Norman Hutchins
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question
>
>
>
> Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
> names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
> in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
> move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake"
the
> server name and have it point to the new location where ever
that
> may be.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Norman Hutchins Jr.
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Howell Laboratories, Inc.
>
> 'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered
once
> in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered?
About
> something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury
(1920
> - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953
>





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Norman,

I am guessing that the UNC path that points to the servers is on
each client PC that uses Vantage. I am not sure how you have this
setup, but you would have to change the UNC path on each of your
Vantage PCs.

Jeff



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Norman Hutchins" <nhutchins@...>
wrote:
>
> Change the UNC on each client? Can you explain? Not sure I
> understand.
>
>
>
> Norman
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of maurojm
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:44 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
>
>
>
> Norman,
>
> Since you are consolidating from 2 servers to 1, I would
> recommend
> that you bite the bullet and change the UNC on all of the
> clients.
> It will be cleaner and performance will be better (no searching
> HOST
> files for locations). If not you will spend months running around
>
> updating HOST files.
>
> my $.02.
>
> Jeff
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> .com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@> wrote:
> >
> > This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like
> SQL's
> > Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find and
> replace.
> > Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path.
> This
> would
> > take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am
> tempted to
> > migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of convenient,
> direct
> > access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is
> telling
> me
> > that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or why.
> >
> > Todd Hofert
> > IT Director
> > Spartan Graphics, Inc.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Norman Hutchins
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question
> >
> >
> >
> > Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
> > names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
> > in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
> > move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake"
> the
> > server name and have it point to the new location where ever
> that
> > may be.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Norman Hutchins Jr.
> >
> > Network Administrator
> >
> > Howell Laboratories, Inc.
> >
> > 'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered
> once
> > in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered?
> About
> > something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury
> (1920
> > - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
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>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
If I understand the question correctly, he has document management
installed and the Vantage database references links to specific
documents stored on a server. When he moves documents to a new server,
the database loses those links. He needs to update the UNC of that link
in the database so when a user click a document in Vantage, the system
knows to look on the new server.

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of maurojm
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question



Norman,

I am guessing that the UNC path that points to the servers is on
each client PC that uses Vantage. I am not sure how you have this
setup, but you would have to change the UNC path on each of your
Vantage PCs.

Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Norman Hutchins" <nhutchins@...>
wrote:
>
> Change the UNC on each client? Can you explain? Not sure I
> understand.
>
>
>
> Norman
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of maurojm
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:44 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
>
>
>
> Norman,
>
> Since you are consolidating from 2 servers to 1, I would
> recommend
> that you bite the bullet and change the UNC on all of the
> clients.
> It will be cleaner and performance will be better (no searching
> HOST
> files for locations). If not you will spend months running around
>
> updating HOST files.
>
> my $.02.
>
> Jeff
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> .com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@> wrote:
> >
> > This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like
> SQL's
> > Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find and
> replace.
> > Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path.
> This
> would
> > take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am
> tempted to
> > migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of convenient,
> direct
> > access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is
> telling
> me
> > that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or why.
> >
> > Todd Hofert
> > IT Director
> > Spartan Graphics, Inc.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Norman Hutchins
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question
> >
> >
> >
> > Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
> > names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
> > in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
> > move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake"
> the
> > server name and have it point to the new location where ever
> that
> > may be.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Norman Hutchins Jr.
> >
> > Network Administrator
> >
> > Howell Laboratories, Inc.
> >
> > 'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered
> once
> > in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered?
> About
> > something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury
> (1920
> > - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Oh........at least one of us understood the question :)
Jeff


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@...> wrote:
>
> If I understand the question correctly, he has document management
> installed and the Vantage database references links to specific
> documents stored on a server. When he moves documents to a new
server,
> the database loses those links. He needs to update the UNC of that
link
> in the database so when a user click a document in Vantage, the
system
> knows to look on the new server.
>
> Todd
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of maurojm
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:22 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
>
>
>
> Norman,
>
> I am guessing that the UNC path that points to the servers is on
> each client PC that uses Vantage. I am not sure how you have this
> setup, but you would have to change the UNC path on each of your
> Vantage PCs.
>
> Jeff
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Norman Hutchins" <nhutchins@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Change the UNC on each client? Can you explain? Not sure I
> > understand.
> >
> >
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of maurojm
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:44 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
> >
> >
> >
> > Norman,
> >
> > Since you are consolidating from 2 servers to 1, I would
> > recommend
> > that you bite the bullet and change the UNC on all of the
> > clients.
> > It will be cleaner and performance will be better (no searching
> > HOST
> > files for locations). If not you will spend months running around
> >
> > updating HOST files.
> >
> > my $.02.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > .com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like
> > SQL's
> > > Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find and
> > replace.
> > > Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path.
> > This
> > would
> > > take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am
> > tempted to
> > > migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of convenient,
> > direct
> > > access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is
> > telling
> > me
> > > that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or why.
> > >
> > > Todd Hofert
> > > IT Director
> > > Spartan Graphics, Inc.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Norman Hutchins
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
> > > names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
> > > in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
> > > move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake"
> > the
> > > server name and have it point to the new location where ever
> > that
> > > may be.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Norman Hutchins Jr.
> > >
> > > Network Administrator
> > >
> > > Howell Laboratories, Inc.
> > >
> > > 'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered
> > once
> > > in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered?
> > About
> > > something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury
> > (1920
> > > - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Message transport security by <http://www.gatewaydefender.com
> <http://www.gatewaydefender.com> >
> > GatewayDefender
> > 8:48:29 AM ET - 9/12/2006
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and
privileged
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the
> sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and
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So now that someone has deciphered my question (thank you!) and
one could any thoughts?



Thanks,



Norman



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of maurojm
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question



Oh........at least one of us understood the question :)
Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@...> wrote:
>
> If I understand the question correctly, he has document
management
> installed and the Vantage database references links to specific
> documents stored on a server. When he moves documents to a new
server,
> the database loses those links. He needs to update the UNC of
that
link
> in the database so when a user click a document in Vantage, the

system
> knows to look on the new server.
>
> Todd
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
> Of maurojm
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:22 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
>
>
>
> Norman,
>
> I am guessing that the UNC path that points to the servers is
on
> each client PC that uses Vantage. I am not sure how you have
this
> setup, but you would have to change the UNC path on each of
your
> Vantage PCs.
>
> Jeff
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Norman Hutchins" <nhutchins@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Change the UNC on each client? Can you explain? Not sure I
> > understand.
> >
> >
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of maurojm
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:44 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
> >
> >
> >
> > Norman,
> >
> > Since you are consolidating from 2 servers to 1, I would
> > recommend
> > that you bite the bullet and change the UNC on all of the
> > clients.
> > It will be cleaner and performance will be better (no
searching
> > HOST
> > files for locations). If not you will spend months running
around
> >
> > updating HOST files.
> >
> > my $.02.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > .com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like
> > SQL's
> > > Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find
and
> > replace.
> > > Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path.
> > This
> > would
> > > take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am

> > tempted to
> > > migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of
convenient,
> > direct
> > > access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is
> > telling
> > me
> > > that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or
why.
> > >
> > > Todd Hofert
> > > IT Director
> > > Spartan Graphics, Inc.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Norman Hutchins
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
> > > names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are
linked
> > > in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever
or
> > > move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to
"fake"
> > the
> > > server name and have it point to the new location where
ever
> > that
> > > may be.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Norman Hutchins Jr.
> > >
> > > Network Administrator
> > >
> > > Howell Laboratories, Inc.
> > >
> > > 'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered
> > once
> > > in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered?
> > About
> > > something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury
> > (1920
> > > - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Message transport security by <http://www.gatewayd
<http://www.gatewaydefender.com> efender.com
> <http://www.gatewayd <http://www.gatewaydefender.com>
efender.com> >
> > GatewayDefender
> > 8:48:29 AM ET - 9/12/2006
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and
privileged
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the
> sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and
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Based on the following technet article I think the HOSTS route would still work for you.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/network/evaluate/technol/tcpipfund/tcpipfund_ch07.mspx
(sorry if that wraps badly)

It seems to indicate that you can locally override the DNS resolution of a name to an IP address via the HOSTS file.

For example:
5,000 document links in Vantage point to either \\ServerA or \\ServerB.
ServerA has IP address 192.168.0.1
ServerB has IP address 192.168.0.2
NewServer has IP address 192.168.0.3

Rather than changing all 5,000 references in Vantage it should be possible to add entries in the HOSTS file such as:
192.168.0.3 ServerA
192.168.0.3 ServerB
and leave NewServer handled by DNS
If the folder paths for the files on ServerA and ServerB are preserved when they are copied to NewServer then when a local program trys to access a file with the document link pointing to ServerA or ServerB it should resolve to 192.168.0.3 which is NewServer

To change the HOSTS files on all the PCs would be a one time hassle but far better than changing 5,000 doc file references in Vantage (unless these are in a table you can write to with ODBC and you want to risk some sort of text substitution update query). If the HOSTS file on all PCs will be the same (likely) you could create it one time, copy to a floppy (or CD) along with a batch file to copy/overwrite it on the PC. Load the disk and Command run the .bat file. Should take about 10 seconds per PC that runs Vantage. Could even run the batch file via network.

Easier yet might be making name entries in the local server based DNS file if DNS server is running.

It might take a little experimenting but I think the above method would work as a de facto alias and worth the one time hassle modifying the HOSTS file on the client PCs..

-Todd C.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Norman Hutchins
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question



So now that someone has deciphered my question (thank you!) and
one could any thoughts?

Thanks,

Norman

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of maurojm
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question

Oh........at least one of us understood the question :)
Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@...> wrote:
>
> If I understand the question correctly, he has document
management
> installed and the Vantage database references links to specific
> documents stored on a server. When he moves documents to a new
server,
> the database loses those links. He needs to update the UNC of
that
link
> in the database so when a user click a document in Vantage, the

system
> knows to look on the new server.
>
> Todd
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
> Of maurojm
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:22 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
>
>
>
> Norman,
>
> I am guessing that the UNC path that points to the servers is
on
> each client PC that uses Vantage. I am not sure how you have
this
> setup, but you would have to change the UNC path on each of
your
> Vantage PCs.
>
> Jeff
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Norman Hutchins" <nhutchins@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Change the UNC on each client? Can you explain? Not sure I
> > understand.
> >
> >
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of maurojm
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:44 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question
> >
> >
> >
> > Norman,
> >
> > Since you are consolidating from 2 servers to 1, I would
> > recommend
> > that you bite the bullet and change the UNC on all of the
> > clients.
> > It will be cleaner and performance will be better (no
searching
> > HOST
> > files for locations). If not you will spend months running
around
> >
> > updating HOST files.
> >
> > my $.02.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > .com, "Todd Hofert" <todd@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is where it would be nice if Progress had a tool like
> > SQL's
> > > Enterprise Manager. Open the table and basically do a find
and
> > replace.
> > > Find the old UNC path and replace it with the new UNC path.
> > This
> > would
> > > take less than five minutes in SQL Enterprise Manager. I am

> > tempted to
> > > migrate to SQL when moving to V8 for this type of
convenient,
> > direct
> > > access to the stored data. Some where however, my mind is
> > telling
> > me
> > > that someone once said don't change. Can't remember who or
why.
> > >
> > > Todd Hofert
> > > IT Director
> > > Spartan Graphics, Inc.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Norman Hutchins
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
> > > names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are
linked
> > > in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever
or
> > > move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to
"fake"
> > the
> > > server name and have it point to the new location where
ever
> > that
> > > may be.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Norman Hutchins Jr.
> > >
> > > Network Administrator
> > >
> > > Howell Laboratories, Inc.
> > >
> > > 'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered
> > once
> > > in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered?
> > About
> > > something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury
> > (1920
> > > - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Message transport security by < http://www.gatewayd
< http://www.gatewayd <http://www.gatewaydefender.com> efender.com> efender.com
> < http://www.gatewayd < http://www.gatewayd <http://www.gatewaydefender.com> efender.com>
efender.com> >
> > GatewayDefender
> > 8:48:29 AM ET - 9/12/2006
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
First question: What version of Vantage are you on?

Second question: As a new user who hasn't implemented document management yet,
does one *have* to include the full UNC path???

Mark W.
We are on version 8, and no you don't have to have the whole UNC
path. Looking back on it now I would have rather link the
documents from a mapped drive then it wouldn't have mattered what
I did to the servers was long as I updated everyone's computers.
But it's a little to late now. :-(



Norman



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: OT- Windows mapping question



First question: What version of Vantage are you on?

Second question: As a new user who hasn't implemented document
management yet,
does one *have* to include the full UNC path???

Mark W.





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Norman,
You can accomplish this if you have a Wins server. Sorry for the late
reply. Todd's reply about the Hosts file is about the same result.
I had to test, but since it was first suggested by to my by a certain
Network expert in the NEVUG I set up my domain controller as a Wins server.
(I think this can be accomplished just about the same on a DNS server as
well). I went into Wins manager on the wins server and created a static
mapping to an existing server IP address with a new name (existing "Slug"
new "Slug5"). Then I went to network neighborhood on my computer and put in
\\slug and up came the shares. Then I entered \\slug5 and there they were
again.
As long as you are going to either rename the other servers or remove them
from the network, you should be able to set a "map" to a single server for
both of them using the hosts file, wins, or I expect DNS depending on your
network setup.
Let me know if you need more details offline,
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question


Well right now I have an old NT server that is just really being
used for file storage and is quickly getting to small and would
like to replace it with a NAS or some friendlier than windows NT.
The second part is that I have other files that I would like to
move there also that are currently being stored on another NT
server. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would like
to move files from two NT severs to a NAS and not lose the UNC
for the files.

Hope that makes some since.

Norman

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Hoyt
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question

Is the reason for a failing drive or is there something more
serious?
What is the OS?
You might be able to pull off some interesting things depending
on the OS
and the specific problem you are trying to overcome. Can you give
any
further details?
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
com]On Behalf Of
Norman Hutchins
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] OT- Windows mapping question

Off Topic question, is there a way to make "aliases" server
names? Meaning we have files stored on a server that are linked
in Vantage by the UNC. And I may need to replace that sever or
move the files. I wanted to know if there is a way to "fake" the
server name and have it point to the new location where ever that
may be.

Thanks,

Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator

Howell Laboratories, Inc.

'We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once
in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About
something important, about something real?' --Ray Bradbury (1920
- ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953

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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
com] On
Behalf Of Steve Wirch
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for a Permanent Position Programmer in
Boston Area

Hi,

We are running Vantage, are looking to fill several positions due
to
growth. If interested, please e-mail your resume.

We offer competitive salary, benefits, and have paid stock
options the
last two years as bonus in addition to cash bonus based upon
merit.

Hittite has been around for 20 years; we went public last year
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(http://finance. <http://finance.
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yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y>
yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HITT&t=1y).

Hope to hear from you,

Steve Wirch

Manager of Information Technology

Hittite Microwave Corporation

20 Alpha Road

Chelmsford, MA 01824

(978)250-3343

www.hittite.com <http://www.hittite. <http://www.hittite.
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Applications Programmer

Candidate will join a steady growth mid-size company and be
exposed to
all stages of the systems development. This is an opportunity to
work on
a wide range of internal manufacturing based projects and our
external
web site with e-commerce.

The primary responsibility will be to write and support web based
applications with a SQL server backend. These applications will
center
around manufacturing and engineering requirements Some projects
will
require interfacing with, programming and supporting our external
web
site.

The ability to sit with a user and understand their systems needs
(what
report to generate, etc.) is crucial.

Tool set should include: SQL Server, MySQL, PHP, Visual Basic,
VBScript,
Java, JavaScript, ASP, and Cold Fusion. Any .NET is a plus, as
that is
being used for new applications.

Position requires an applicable four year technical degree + 5
years
applicable experience.

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