Paste Insert in Kinetic Order Entry

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Not sure if I’m looking for solutions or sympathy, but I’ll take both.

One of our last areas of pain in transitioning to Kinetic browser is order entry. The line to line processing time is just much, much slower in Kinetic. That’s manageable for small orders, but some of our orders that are 50+ lines won’t work manually. In classic, our solution was paste new/insert, but in Kinetic this process is taking almost 20 min to complete for 50lines which seems absurd to me.

Is anyone else using Paste - Order Entry Lines and having a similar experience?

Thanks,

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I experience extreme slowness when using paste new to a UD table with < 1000 records. It takes a few minutes to complete, during this time we have no idea if it is still going, if it will complete, or if it will fail. Only about 6 fields for this case, using the stock UD03 fields. Would love to hear if someone figures out how to make this faster!

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Do you have ready to process unchecked before you paste?

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We have processed them both with Ready to Process checked and unchecked and while we have seen improvements with it unchecked, it is still 10x slower than classic.

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Is there anything special about the order lines you’re pasting beyond part / rev / qty / uom / price and discount / dates? I ask because while it isn’t fast, pasting ~60 records with that data in our orders (Kinetic Cloud) only takes about 3 minutes, as long as Ready To Process isn’t checked.

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I heard today, that’s “innovation”.

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Only other suggestion I have is DMT. That comes with its own tradeoffs.

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Not to mention when you’re a lean organization most people aren’t sure what DMT is or what to look out for.

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We don’t give our users DMT for that reason it’s way too risky for them to mess something up. We use it but proof the users DMT files before we run them.

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We do have some orders we already DMT (250 to 500 lines) and we would prefer not expand that usage.

We do paste some comment fields and ud column additions. Nothing that I would expect to have to run through additional processes.

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This is the hard part, and I’ve heard this from more places than just order entry, cash receipt posting, AP invoicing, etc. the row to row is much slower than vantage 6/8 that they came from… and that’s hard to hear. And to read this thread about how we can’t use the base form that’s been out for 4+ years… it’s just hard. Not trying to complain, these are real issues we are having too.

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They should just re-implement Kinetic Paste Insert/Update based on UpdateExt, they already do it with DMT and the “Server Processing” checkbox / Update Mode, it works great and is very performant. Has no issues with kicking out failed rows etc.

Send the whole “paste” payload to the server, process it server side in a loop to UpdateExt. Return the resulting dataset and a message popup “you pasted 50 rows, 30 rows succeeded, 20 failed, here is a .csv of failed rows” just like DMT does. bam.

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From your keyboard to ceiling cat’s ears.

ceiling cat GIF

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