Price breaks

Greg Clauser wrote:
>
> My point was that it is currently inflexible. That's why I thought it would
> benefit everyone (and not hinder anyone) if the values that pop into the
> Order from the Price Break table could be overwritten if desired (and not
> refreshed on updates). That would add flexibility and make the feature
> useful for almost all users. Comments?

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Is there any way to make the price breaks work correctly?
If I have three releases of 10 each to be built months
apart, the customer shouldn't get the 30pc price break
but they do.
I need this to function correctly also and can't seem to figure out how. If
nothing else, I'd like to be able to override the price that the price
break function inserts. Right now, it lets you over-WRITE it but if you
update or add any release data it will replace the price again.
I also need to periodically make mass price increases to all or certain
customers or product groups. It does not look like that's something that
could be done in the price break table either. Right now, we have to
maintain price break data in an Excel spreadsheet.

Greg Clauser
Lakin General Corporation
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:34 PM
To: Vantage List
Subject: [Vantage] price breaks



Is there any way to make the price breaks work correctly?
If I have three releases of 10 each to be built months
apart, the customer shouldn't get the 30pc price break
but they do.
We have the same issue. We have many blanket p.o.'s that may extend over a 2 or 3 year period, that may have as many as 75-100 releases on any particular sales order line. Our price breaks are on a per shipment basis. Consequently our customer may release parts in different quantities that require different price breaks.

It is a very manual process for us now, but we manage. It would be nice to be able to specify price breaks by release.

George Brockman II
Gasket Engineering

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Clauser [SMTP:gclauser@...]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:38 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] price breaks


I need this to function correctly also and can't seem to figure out how. If
nothing else, I'd like to be able to override the price that the price
break function inserts. Right now, it lets you over-WRITE it but if you
update or add any release data it will replace the price again.
I also need to periodically make mass price increases to all or certain
customers or product groups. It does not look like that's something that
could be done in the price break table either. Right now, we have to
maintain price break data in an Excel spreadsheet.

Greg Clauser
Lakin General Corporation
gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser@...>
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:34 PM
To: Vantage List
Subject: [Vantage] price breaks



Is there any way to make the price breaks work correctly?
If I have three releases of 10 each to be built months
apart, the customer shouldn't get the 30pc price break
but they do.




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The problem really stems from the fact of two different discount
philosophies. One being passing on manufacturing savings for larger lots to
the customer, versus a volume discount for total volume being ordered by a
customer. Vantage currently uses the later philosophy.

However, you can use the VBForm on the invoice detail line to call a
Progress program to lookup the proper price break in the OPrice table based
on the quantity shipped, which would in effect transfer the price break to
the release level (i.e. the first scenario mentioned above). Once the
VBForm found the correct price, it could set the unit price to the correct
amount in the invoice detail line.

This does not completely automate the process, however it would
significantly reduce the manual labor required to determine proper pricing.

Rick Lane
Intelligent Systems Integration, Inc.
661B Weber Drive
Wadsworth, OH 44281
330-335-5291
Fax: 330-335-7275

"Helping business make intelligent use of technology"

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 3:34 PM
To: Vantage List
Subject: [Vantage] price breaks

Is there any way to make the price breaks work correctly?
If I have three releases of 10 each to be built months
apart, the customer shouldn't get the 30pc price break
but they do.
Too bad the quoting module uses the first philosophy.

Rick Lane wrote:
>
> The problem really stems from the fact of two different discount
> philosophies. One being passing on manufacturing savings for larger lots to
> the customer, versus a volume discount for total volume being ordered by a
> customer. Vantage currently uses the later philosophy.
>
> However, you can use the VBForm on the invoice detail line to call a
> Progress program to lookup the proper price break in the OPrice table based
> on the quantity shipped, which would in effect transfer the price break to
> the release level (i.e. the first scenario mentioned above). Once the
> VBForm found the correct price, it could set the unit price to the correct
> amount in the invoice detail line.
>
> This does not completely automate the process, however it would
> significantly reduce the manual labor required to determine proper pricing.
"Too bad the quoting module uses the first philosophy."

This really depends on what type of company you are. For us, we may have 11
releases on sales order, for one part each and the total 11 parts would
definitely qualify our customer for a price break, even if the releases are
spread out over 6-8 months. This is the only way price breaks would work
for us. I can see the point you guys are making for your business, but that
change would not be beneficial to us. Perhaps there should be an option in
the quoting and sales configuration as to take price break by line or by
release?

Sarah
Maybe an interim workaround would be to break the single line w/multiple
releases into multiple lines w/multiple releases. Each line could represent
an order with releases over a specific time frame for which price breaks
would apply.

Regards
Jim Stetter

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:58 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] price breaks


"Too bad the quoting module uses the first philosophy."

This really depends on what type of company you are. For us, we may have
11
releases on sales order, for one part each and the total 11 parts would
definitely qualify our customer for a price break, even if the releases
are
spread out over 6-8 months. This is the only way price breaks would work
for us. I can see the point you guys are making for your business, but
that
change would not be beneficial to us. Perhaps there should be an option
in
the quoting and sales configuration as to take price break by line or by
release?

Sarah

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
My point was that it is currently inflexible. That's why I thought it would
benefit everyone (and not hinder anyone) if the values that pop into the
Order from the Price Break table could be overwritten if desired (and not
refreshed on updates). That would add flexibility and make the feature
useful for almost all users. Comments?
Greg Clauser
Lakin General Corporation
gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:58 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] price breaks


"Too bad the quoting module uses the first philosophy."

This really depends on what type of company you are. For us, we may have 11
releases on sales order, for one part each and the total 11 parts would
definitely qualify our customer for a price break, even if the releases are
spread out over 6-8 months. This is the only way price breaks would work
for us. I can see the point you guys are making for your business, but that
change would not be beneficial to us. Perhaps there should be an option in
the quoting and sales configuration as to take price break by line or by
release?

Sarah