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As most have told you, we have pretty much taught ourselves or have looked to outside resources for help in customization. I happened to take a class in college on .NET programming (really basic) and just so happened to keep the book (acutally I think the bookstore wouldn't buy it back). I did find a local company that does training in all sorts of applications and took a course on Crystal Reports and they supplied excellent material to keep which has helped along the way. We are running Progress, which I have no training on, but have found a manual on 4GL programming (could e-mail it if you are on Progress). Other than that I have just used training accounts, google searches and the materials I have to make customizations.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Sebastien" <sebastien.jean-felix@...> wrote:
>
> Hello to all,
> I am new to Vantage (implementation on October 26th 2009 - V 8.03.407). At work I am the only IT guy. I find it difficult to find resources that help with programing in Vantage (customizations). The difficulty comes from the lack of available resources when it comes to understantding the business objects.
>
> So I guess my question is, does everyone always go throug a step learning curve by themselves or is there some training available out there?
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Sebastien.-
>
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Hello to all,
I am new to Vantage (implementation on October 26th 2009 - V 8.03.407). At work I am the only IT guy. I find it difficult to find resources that help with programing in Vantage (customizations). The difficulty comes from the lack of available resources when it comes to understantding the business objects.

So I guess my question is, does everyone always go throug a step learning curve by themselves or is there some training available out there?


Thank you


Sebastien.-
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If your company is willing to pay for education, TAKE IT!



Otherwise get the EPICOR TOOLS USER GUIDE it has a lot of info to help
you start with customizations. Plus, you have us to guide you as well
and its free!



You can get the user guide from your CAM (yes it costs money but cheaper
than going to a class).



It is only steep if it takes you a long time...lots of hours outside of
work. If you have a test db, highly recommend you use it to hammer and
test your customizations.







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa@...>

800.852.2325

630.806.2000 ofc

630.806.2001 fax

www.weldcoa.com

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sebastien
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:19 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Programming Resources





Hello to all,
I am new to Vantage (implementation on October 26th 2009 - V 8.03.407).
At work I am the only IT guy. I find it difficult to find resources that
help with programing in Vantage (customizations). The difficulty comes
from the lack of available resources when it comes to understantding the
business objects.

So I guess my question is, does everyone always go throug a step
learning curve by themselves or is there some training available out
there?

Thank you

Sebastien.-





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Thanks,

I guess that means everybody is in the same boat when it comes to getting use to the customization tools.


Sébastien.-

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: February-24-10 2:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Programming Resources



If your company is willing to pay for education, TAKE IT!

Otherwise get the EPICOR TOOLS USER GUIDE it has a lot of info to help
you start with customizations. Plus, you have us to guide you as well
and its free!

You can get the user guide from your CAM (yes it costs money but cheaper
than going to a class).

It is only steep if it takes you a long time...lots of hours outside of
work. If you have a test db, highly recommend you use it to hammer and
test your customizations.

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>

800.852.2325

630.806.2000 ofc

630.806.2001 fax

www.weldcoa.com

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Sebastien
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:19 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Programming Resources

Hello to all,
I am new to Vantage (implementation on October 26th 2009 - V 8.03.407).
At work I am the only IT guy. I find it difficult to find resources that
help with programing in Vantage (customizations). The difficulty comes
from the lack of available resources when it comes to understantding the
business objects.

So I guess my question is, does everyone always go throug a step
learning curve by themselves or is there some training available out
there?

Thank you

Sebastien.-

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Sebastien,

You are correct!!! we are in the same boat.. We started Implementation last June and it has been such a journey.

First, no matter how many prototypes or pilot testing you had, you will encounter many problems with the system itself and rwquest from your own company.

Second,

I agree you should get educated in BPMs ,BAQs(hopefully you have some programming knowledge) and Crystal Reports. A good way to strat is to ask your CAM for a copy of the Epicor Tools User Guide which explains you step by step how to customize the software.

Third,

Everything I know I learned it from this group so I strongly suggest post your issues here before you actually contact tech support. People here are amazing helping you and giving you advices for quick fixes while tech support may take days to solve it.

Good Luck

Lissette Contreras
KEC
Corona,CA


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Sebastien Jean-Felix <sebastien.jean-felix@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks,
>
> I guess that means everybody is in the same boat when it comes to getting use to the customization tools.
>
>
> Sébastien.-
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
> Sent: February-24-10 2:48 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Programming Resources
>
>
>
> If your company is willing to pay for education, TAKE IT!
>
> Otherwise get the EPICOR TOOLS USER GUIDE it has a lot of info to help
> you start with customizations. Plus, you have us to guide you as well
> and its free!
>
> You can get the user guide from your CAM (yes it costs money but cheaper
> than going to a class).
>
> It is only steep if it takes you a long time...lots of hours outside of
> work. If you have a test db, highly recommend you use it to hammer and
> test your customizations.
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>
>
> 800.852.2325
>
> 630.806.2000 ofc
>
> 630.806.2001 fax
>
> www.weldcoa.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of Sebastien
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:19 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Programming Resources
>
> Hello to all,
> I am new to Vantage (implementation on October 26th 2009 - V 8.03.407).
> At work I am the only IT guy. I find it difficult to find resources that
> help with programing in Vantage (customizations). The difficulty comes
> from the lack of available resources when it comes to understantding the
> business objects.
>
> So I guess my question is, does everyone always go throug a step
> learning curve by themselves or is there some training available out
> there?
>
> Thank you
>
> Sebastien.-
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ________________________________
> AVIS IMPORTANT: Cette transmission électronique est strictement réservée à l'usage de la (des) personne(s) à qui elle est adressée et contient des informations privilégiées et confidentielles. Toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de cette transmission par une autre personne est strictement prohibée. Si vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plaît en aviser immédiatement l'expéditeur par courriel et détruire tout exemplaire ou copie de la transmission originale.
>
> WARNING: This electronic transmission contains confidential information, intended only for the person(s) named above, and is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission by error, please notify us immediately by return email and destroy the original transmission immediately and all copies thereof.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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To some degree...there are a lot of people that have .NET programming skills that seems to help a bit. But these folks tend to be very helpful to newbies with questions. There are examples on Progress's website to help with 4GL programming. There are a lot of people here that know Crystal as well. So you are covered.



And of course BAQs, BPMs, customizations, etc....a lot of knowledgeable people willing to help.







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa@...>

800.852.2325

630.806.2000 ofc

630.806.2001 fax

www.weldcoa.com

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Jean-Felix
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Programming Resources





Thanks,

I guess that means everybody is in the same boat when it comes to getting use to the customization tools.

Sébastien.-

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: February-24-10 2:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Programming Resources

If your company is willing to pay for education, TAKE IT!

Otherwise get the EPICOR TOOLS USER GUIDE it has a lot of info to help
you start with customizations. Plus, you have us to guide you as well
and its free!

You can get the user guide from your CAM (yes it costs money but cheaper
than going to a class).

It is only steep if it takes you a long time...lots of hours outside of
work. If you have a test db, highly recommend you use it to hammer and
test your customizations.

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>

800.852.2325

630.806.2000 ofc

630.806.2001 fax

www.weldcoa.com

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Sebastien
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:19 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Programming Resources

Hello to all,
I am new to Vantage (implementation on October 26th 2009 - V 8.03.407).
At work I am the only IT guy. I find it difficult to find resources that
help with programing in Vantage (customizations). The difficulty comes
from the lack of available resources when it comes to understantding the
business objects.

So I guess my question is, does everyone always go throug a step
learning curve by themselves or is there some training available out
there?

Thank you

Sebastien.-

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

________________________________
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The learning curve will be steep, but before you know it, you'll be picking up things left and right and it will come naturally.

I started working with Vantage 8.03.408b in November, with absolutely no prior experience in Vantage, Progress, Crystal, etc. The only experience I had was in .NET programming. And only about 4 months later, I've gained a great deal of knowledge and experience, writing much more complex BPM's and the like.

The best advice I can give is to just get into the Pilot/Test DB and experiment. The Users Guide will help, but 95% of what I learned was through this group and experimenting myself in Test/Pilot. Learning for yourself is absolutely incomparable to reading through Guides/Books.

Of course, just my two cents :)

I also have a PDF file of a lengthy 4GL programming guide, starting with basics and moving forward. If you'd like a copy let me know.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> To some degree...there are a lot of people that have .NET programming skills that seems to help a bit. But these folks tend to be very helpful to newbies with questions. There are examples on Progress's website to help with 4GL programming. There are a lot of people here that know Crystal as well. So you are covered.
>
>
>
> And of course BAQs, BPMs, customizations, etc....a lot of knowledgeable people willing to help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@... <mailto:manasa@...>
>
> 800.852.2325
>
> 630.806.2000 ofc
>
> 630.806.2001 fax
>
> www.weldcoa.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Jean-Felix
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:57 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Programming Resources
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> I guess that means everybody is in the same boat when it comes to getting use to the customization tools.
>
> Sébastien.-
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
> Sent: February-24-10 2:48 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Programming Resources
>
> If your company is willing to pay for education, TAKE IT!
>
> Otherwise get the EPICOR TOOLS USER GUIDE it has a lot of info to help
> you start with customizations. Plus, you have us to guide you as well
> and its free!
>
> You can get the user guide from your CAM (yes it costs money but cheaper
> than going to a class).
>
> It is only steep if it takes you a long time...lots of hours outside of
> work. If you have a test db, highly recommend you use it to hammer and
> test your customizations.
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com> <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>
>
> 800.852.2325
>
> 630.806.2000 ofc
>
> 630.806.2001 fax
>
> www.weldcoa.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of Sebastien
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:19 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Programming Resources
>
> Hello to all,
> I am new to Vantage (implementation on October 26th 2009 - V 8.03.407).
> At work I am the only IT guy. I find it difficult to find resources that
> help with programing in Vantage (customizations). The difficulty comes
> from the lack of available resources when it comes to understantding the
> business objects.
>
> So I guess my question is, does everyone always go throug a step
> learning curve by themselves or is there some training available out
> there?
>
> Thank you
>
> Sebastien.-
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ________________________________
> AVIS IMPORTANT: Cette transmission électronique est strictement réservée à l'usage de la (des) personne(s) à qui elle est adressée et contient des informations privilégiées et confidentielles. Toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de cette transmission par une autre personne est strictement prohibée. Si vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plaît en aviser immédiatement l'expéditeur par courriel et détruire tout exemplaire ou copie de la transmission originale.
>
> WARNING: This electronic transmission contains confidential information, intended only for the person(s) named above, and is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission by error, please notify us immediately by return email and destroy the original transmission immediately and all copies thereof.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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