Hello Rebecca .. and welcome ..
Any time a part has outside operations involving
more than one vendor we go through all sorts of
conniptions trying to track the status.
Since it is your business practice to capture the
costs of this tool (and its coating) into the BOM
for the end item (your deliverable), you are stuck
with using the Part Master.
As to whether you need a Part Master for both the
uncoated and the coated, seems to me it would depend
on how often you consume an uncoated tool. We have
cases where our vendor incorporates subsidiary services
into his price to us and we only track the end item. In
other cases we maintain a Part Master for "rough" .. or
"semi finished" items .. as well as a Part Master for
the finished item. We do this because there are significant
dollars involved in the rough item.
When you decide to handle a part at different stages of
completeness by creating separate Part Masters, you also
choose to commit to some sort of status tracking. This
means that you will need to create transactions in Vantage
that show the part moving from vendor to vendor. We do this
by creating a Job that uses the starting item as a raw material
and then move it through as many subcontract operations as
required. To maintain status, we do receipts and issues in
Vantage even though the item isn't actually here. I suppose
a business that always coats the tools might just choose to
leap over that and buy the tool in the coated condition from
one or the other vendor at a predetermined price.
The beauty of Vantage is that it is very flexible about these
things. The problem with Vantage is that it is very flexible
about these things.
Good luck with your implementation.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca Snyder [mailto:rsnyder@...]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Purchasing & the parts Master
Hi,
We're in the process of implementing Vantage and have a question on how
others are handling this situation:
We purchase Carbide tools from "Vendor A". The vendor sends the tools
directly to "Vendor B" for a special coating.
We issue a PO to the Carbide tool "Vendor A" and a separate PO to the
Special Coating "Vendor B".
Our current PO to "Vendor A" lists each tool we are buying. The PO to
"Vendor B" just lists the total number of tools with the description
'Tooling to be Extreme Coated'.
How are others with this situation handling this in your parts master?
Do you have a part for the 'uncoated' and a part for the 'coated' or
just a part for the 'uncoated' and a part called 'Coating for tools'?
When we receive the tooling back from "Vendor B" do we then need to do a
receipt from both vendors?
Also... the tooling (that has been coated) will need to be a part of the
Bill of Materials for our manufactured parts because we can consume many
of these tools to make one part and want to charge the tool and the
coating to the job.
Rebecca Snyder
Atlas Die, LLC
Elkhart, IN
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Any time a part has outside operations involving
more than one vendor we go through all sorts of
conniptions trying to track the status.
Since it is your business practice to capture the
costs of this tool (and its coating) into the BOM
for the end item (your deliverable), you are stuck
with using the Part Master.
As to whether you need a Part Master for both the
uncoated and the coated, seems to me it would depend
on how often you consume an uncoated tool. We have
cases where our vendor incorporates subsidiary services
into his price to us and we only track the end item. In
other cases we maintain a Part Master for "rough" .. or
"semi finished" items .. as well as a Part Master for
the finished item. We do this because there are significant
dollars involved in the rough item.
When you decide to handle a part at different stages of
completeness by creating separate Part Masters, you also
choose to commit to some sort of status tracking. This
means that you will need to create transactions in Vantage
that show the part moving from vendor to vendor. We do this
by creating a Job that uses the starting item as a raw material
and then move it through as many subcontract operations as
required. To maintain status, we do receipts and issues in
Vantage even though the item isn't actually here. I suppose
a business that always coats the tools might just choose to
leap over that and buy the tool in the coated condition from
one or the other vendor at a predetermined price.
The beauty of Vantage is that it is very flexible about these
things. The problem with Vantage is that it is very flexible
about these things.
Good luck with your implementation.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca Snyder [mailto:rsnyder@...]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Purchasing & the parts Master
Hi,
We're in the process of implementing Vantage and have a question on how
others are handling this situation:
We purchase Carbide tools from "Vendor A". The vendor sends the tools
directly to "Vendor B" for a special coating.
We issue a PO to the Carbide tool "Vendor A" and a separate PO to the
Special Coating "Vendor B".
Our current PO to "Vendor A" lists each tool we are buying. The PO to
"Vendor B" just lists the total number of tools with the description
'Tooling to be Extreme Coated'.
How are others with this situation handling this in your parts master?
Do you have a part for the 'uncoated' and a part for the 'coated' or
just a part for the 'uncoated' and a part called 'Coating for tools'?
When we receive the tooling back from "Vendor B" do we then need to do a
receipt from both vendors?
Also... the tooling (that has been coated) will need to be a part of the
Bill of Materials for our manufactured parts because we can consume many
of these tools to make one part and want to charge the tool and the
coating to the job.
Rebecca Snyder
Atlas Die, LLC
Elkhart, IN
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links