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Ehh... I installed a E9.05.700 client on the Ramdisk and played with the training db. My workstation used for testing is on a SSD and the server is on 4xSSD (RAID10) so both systems are fairly tuned for speed. So, even with the extra step of putting the client on the Ramdisk, it was actually SLOWER than a native install on the SSD. Opening part tracker, invoice tracker, order entry, po entry, were all sluggish... still waited for layouts to load, pulling data from the server, etc. Screen refreshes too longer than on the SSD. More testing needed but initial verdict is no improvements for a client install. Sorry dude.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Winter, Patrick
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:53 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: RamDisk



Could it be used for the client install just to speed up loading forms?

Patrick Winter

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of cubcrafters_it
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:48
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: RamDisk

There's a number of other free and paid RAMdisk software apps out there
too. I've heard rumors that some folks (even Epicor possibly) are
running them to speed up conversion times.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
James Todd <james.todd@...<mailto:james.todd@...>> wrote:
>
> Interesting concepts for those techy people on the list. This is no
way plugging or endorsing anything for AMD or whatever, just interesting
concepts in the DB world. RAM being so cheap and if the motherboard can
support a large amount. Running an Epicor DB or any other IO heavy
application in RAM would immediately take out any IO bottlenecks that
we've seen. After install, there's a PDF manual that explains in more
detail how the software works and how it backs up the images if you want
to reboot. Paid version ($19) has maximum limit of a 64GB drive. Free
version if 4GB (Intel chip) or 6GB (AMD chip). RAMDisks have been around
for many years, this takes a giant leap forward.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ramdisk-dram-dataram,18324.html
> http://www.radeonramdisk.com/
>
> WARNING: DO NOT ATTEMPT to use this on a production system, use at
your own risk.
>
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Interesting concepts for those techy people on the list. This is no way plugging or endorsing anything for AMD or whatever, just interesting concepts in the DB world. RAM being so cheap and if the motherboard can support a large amount. Running an Epicor DB or any other IO heavy application in RAM would immediately take out any IO bottlenecks that we've seen. After install, there's a PDF manual that explains in more detail how the software works and how it backs up the images if you want to reboot. Paid version ($19) has maximum limit of a 64GB drive. Free version if 4GB (Intel chip) or 6GB (AMD chip). RAMDisks have been around for many years, this takes a giant leap forward.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ramdisk-dram-dataram,18324.html
http://www.radeonramdisk.com/

WARNING: DO NOT ATTEMPT to use this on a production system, use at your own risk.

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There's a number of other free and paid RAMdisk software apps out there too. I've heard rumors that some folks (even Epicor possibly) are running them to speed up conversion times.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, James Todd <james.todd@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting concepts for those techy people on the list. This is no way plugging or endorsing anything for AMD or whatever, just interesting concepts in the DB world. RAM being so cheap and if the motherboard can support a large amount. Running an Epicor DB or any other IO heavy application in RAM would immediately take out any IO bottlenecks that we've seen. After install, there's a PDF manual that explains in more detail how the software works and how it backs up the images if you want to reboot. Paid version ($19) has maximum limit of a 64GB drive. Free version if 4GB (Intel chip) or 6GB (AMD chip). RAMDisks have been around for many years, this takes a giant leap forward.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ramdisk-dram-dataram,18324.html
> http://www.radeonramdisk.com/
>
> WARNING: DO NOT ATTEMPT to use this on a production system, use at your own risk.
>
> ________________________________
>
> Technical information contained in this e-mail may be controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic and Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to U.S. persons only. It is the responsibility of the organization and the individual in control of this data to abide by U.S. Export Laws. If you are not a U.S. person take no further action with this e-mail and contact sender immediately.
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Could it be used for the client install just to speed up loading forms?



Patrick Winter



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of cubcrafters_it
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:48
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: RamDisk





There's a number of other free and paid RAMdisk software apps out there
too. I've heard rumors that some folks (even Epicor possibly) are
running them to speed up conversion times.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
James Todd <james.todd@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting concepts for those techy people on the list. This is no
way plugging or endorsing anything for AMD or whatever, just interesting
concepts in the DB world. RAM being so cheap and if the motherboard can
support a large amount. Running an Epicor DB or any other IO heavy
application in RAM would immediately take out any IO bottlenecks that
we've seen. After install, there's a PDF manual that explains in more
detail how the software works and how it backs up the images if you want
to reboot. Paid version ($19) has maximum limit of a 64GB drive. Free
version if 4GB (Intel chip) or 6GB (AMD chip). RAMDisks have been around
for many years, this takes a giant leap forward.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ramdisk-dram-dataram,18324.html
> http://www.radeonramdisk.com/
>
> WARNING: DO NOT ATTEMPT to use this on a production system, use at
your own risk.
>
> ________________________________
>
> Technical information contained in this e-mail may be controlled by
the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic
and Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export
license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license,
ITAR technical data is limited to U.S. persons only. It is the
responsibility of the organization and the individual in control of this
data to abide by U.S. Export Laws. If you are not a U.S. person take no
further action with this e-mail and contact sender immediately.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Yeah, not a surprise. That's what I had intended to test out was doing data conversions. Or replicated data from the production system into a reporting server so complex reports/queries would run in an instant. VMware is supported, but no mention of Hyper-V, don't see why one couldn't rig the ramdisk up as a pass-through disk.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cubcrafters_it
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: RamDisk



There's a number of other free and paid RAMdisk software apps out there too. I've heard rumors that some folks (even Epicor possibly) are running them to speed up conversion times.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, James Todd <james.todd@...<mailto:james.todd@...>> wrote:
>
> Interesting concepts for those techy people on the list. This is no way plugging or endorsing anything for AMD or whatever, just interesting concepts in the DB world. RAM being so cheap and if the motherboard can support a large amount. Running an Epicor DB or any other IO heavy application in RAM would immediately take out any IO bottlenecks that we've seen. After install, there's a PDF manual that explains in more detail how the software works and how it backs up the images if you want to reboot. Paid version ($19) has maximum limit of a 64GB drive. Free version if 4GB (Intel chip) or 6GB (AMD chip). RAMDisks have been around for many years, this takes a giant leap forward.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ramdisk-dram-dataram,18324.html
> http://www.radeonramdisk.com/
>
> WARNING: DO NOT ATTEMPT to use this on a production system, use at your own risk.
>
> ________________________________
>
> Technical information contained in this e-mail may be controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic and Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to U.S. persons only. It is the responsibility of the organization and the individual in control of this data to abide by U.S. Export Laws. If you are not a U.S. person take no further action with this e-mail and contact sender immediately.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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I have actually seen this in use in production, one company I have worked
with is using it for their SQL TempDB location, as well as their Appserver
temp files.

I can certainly see why it would be attractive to setup a RAMDisk for
something like conversions or a Dump and Load, but for a small cost, you can
also use even a retail SSD drive in a 64-bit workstation with 16GB of RAM
and have it cut down the time significantly that it may not matter in
comparison to the RAMDisk.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
James Todd
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:56 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: RamDisk

Yeah, not a surprise. That's what I had intended to test out was doing data
conversions. Or replicated data from the production system into a reporting
server so complex reports/queries would run in an instant. VMware is
supported, but no mention of Hyper-V, don't see why one couldn't rig the
ramdisk up as a pass-through disk.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
cubcrafters_it
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: RamDisk



There's a number of other free and paid RAMdisk software apps out there too.
I've heard rumors that some folks (even Epicor possibly) are running them to
speed up conversion times.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, James Todd
<james.todd@...<mailto:james.todd@...>> wrote:
>
> Interesting concepts for those techy people on the list. This is no way
plugging or endorsing anything for AMD or whatever, just interesting
concepts in the DB world. RAM being so cheap and if the motherboard can
support a large amount. Running an Epicor DB or any other IO heavy
application in RAM would immediately take out any IO bottlenecks that we've
seen. After install, there's a PDF manual that explains in more detail how
the software works and how it backs up the images if you want to reboot.
Paid version ($19) has maximum limit of a 64GB drive. Free version if 4GB
(Intel chip) or 6GB (AMD chip). RAMDisks have been around for many years,
this takes a giant leap forward.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ramdisk-dram-dataram,18324.html
> http://www.radeonramdisk.com/
>
> WARNING: DO NOT ATTEMPT to use this on a production system, use at your
own risk.
>
> ________________________________
>
> Technical information contained in this e-mail may be controlled by the
United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic and
Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license
prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical
data is limited to U.S. persons only. It is the responsibility of the
organization and the individual in control of this data to abide by U.S.
Export Laws. If you are not a U.S. person take no further action with this
e-mail and contact sender immediately.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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