Rebellion revisited

There is ALWAYS rebellion. It doesn't have anything to do with Vantage -- it's about change. People hate it. I hate it and if you are honest you hate it. Those old Excel spreadsheets were fine...until the CPA firm asked for something only Vantage could provide (variances)...Engineers shouldn't have to look in the computer for information, after all, they are all so brilliant AND they have photographic memories!

IT'S CHANGE. CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE.

People will eventually adjust their comfort level, learn the software, actually help each other figure things out, then guess what?

Next version of Vantage arrives via FedEx and you start all over again. Keeps a check landing in your bank account, though, doesn't it?

Lydia

P.S. I especially like the 'VANTAGE PROVIDES TOO MUCH INFORMATION" item...I had one lady say there was just sooooo much stuff on the screen, she couldn't decide what to look at first!



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A while ago, I posted a remark about people rebelling against
Vantage. This is still going on, and from the looks of it they are
wanting to win.

Some of the complaints...
1. Vantage provides too much information.
2. Vantage is too cubersome because we were used to Visual Basic
architecture.
3. We are too much of a customized shop to use it.
4. The reports are not there...
5. We are unique!!!!
6. A canned program cant do what we want!!!
7. I have to login!?!?
8. My... back when it was the old software, I didnt have to provide
the Engineers with so much information. (Accountability!!!)
9. The accounting is not accounting... the old software allowed me
to add all charges into Misc, rather than break out Freight, Fuel
Surcharge, and Tax. Too many steps to do that.
10. No company is going to come in here and tell me how to run my
business.

NOTE: The head people agreed on this before we bought it.
I sympathize with you about users rebelling, as we are just in the
process of going live. So comments below:



1. You can customize the forms pretty easy and take information
away

2. Can't help you here

3. We are very custom here and indications appear to be that we
can fit into it (for what that's worth)

4. True. You can use Crystal and create any report you want.
That advantage is that they are exactly as you want

5. Again, many people are, I wouldn't think you would be that
different, maybe you are

6. Not true, exactly. Either you are writing code for every
little thing that is unique to you or you fit into a canned piece of
software. That's always the game to be played/weighed.

7. No exactly. With windows you can use integrated security

8. Live with it. We have many of thee issues also.

9. Sounds like configuration options

10. Understand.





All of my comments are based on V8, assuming that's what you're talking
about. It sounds like you are going to have an interesting challenge.





Don









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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 6:32 PM
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Subject: [Vantage] Rebellion revisited



A while ago, I posted a remark about people rebelling against
Vantage. This is still going on, and from the looks of it they are
wanting to win.

Some of the complaints...
1. Vantage provides too much information.
2. Vantage is too cubersome because we were used to Visual Basic
architecture.
3. We are too much of a customized shop to use it.
4. The reports are not there...
5. We are unique!!!!
6. A canned program cant do what we want!!!
7. I have to login!?!?
8. My... back when it was the old software, I didnt have to provide
the Engineers with so much information. (Accountability!!!)
9. The accounting is not accounting... the old software allowed me
to add all charges into Misc, rather than break out Freight, Fuel
Surcharge, and Tax. Too many steps to do that.
10. No company is going to come in here and tell me how to run my
business.

NOTE: The head people agreed on this before we bought it.





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