Regular measurement of planned and actual standard hours -- Van

Hi,

The last two, (Earned standard hours & actual production hours)can
be easily done. There are two issues however, your reporting tool
and the details. I use corvu to do this sort of thing but it can be
done within crystal and report builder. I user corvu, because I find
it easier and quicker to user and you can publish graphs etc to your
intranet. I have done this work before, where the graphs were
publish on the intranet to the shop floor so they could see how many
standard hours they were producing on a 10 weeks rollng . This was
split by department / workcentre.

The first item , it quite hard to do. Using corvu , i was working on
such graphs but could never quite get there. If you want to get to
value only then this is possible. Through take a snapshot of the
sales order, jobs etc. This data is then your planned period. At the
end of the period take another snapshot and compare the two.

As an aside , there is a product that would do it for you, probably.
That is cormanufacturing and it isn't cheap but in BPM it is one of
the best out there.

Hope this helps.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "johnhuang" <jhuang@...> wrote:
>
> I am basically trying to report frequently on:
>
> - Planned/booked standard hours
>
> - Earned standard hours (cumulative standard hours for equipment
> produced in the period
>
> - Performance of actual production hours against earned standard
hours
> (efficiency)
>
> I think that the graphic is showing planned standard value which
> should be some fixed dollar amount for each unit of standard hour
> (sometimes different for each product group).
>
> It is still closer to what I am looking for -- which seems to be a
> pretty typical way to manage production measures -- than anything I
> can find in Vantage.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "brychanwilliams" <brychanw@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is a very interesting topic, but I think I need some more
> > information. The below link seems to refer to sales value rather
than
> > production hours, this is simpler to achieve.
> >
> > Are you looking to compare load against standard hours booked or
> > capacity against standard hours booked or something else?
> >
> > I have in the past tried to create production hours related
reports.
> > This has proved troublesome, to me at least. In 6.1 , when you
delve
> > deeper, the data structure is difficult to report on. I can
> > understand why the data structure is why it is from a system
point of
> > view but for 'users' to extract the data it is difficult.
Personally,
> > I think that this type of reporting/function is weak in 6.1. I
don't
> > know whether it has been improved in v8 or APS helps in this
matter.
> >
> > If I can be of help , let me know.
> >
>
Our company would like to begin measuring the total standard hours of
planned versus actual equipment production during specific time periods
(at least monthly, weekly would be ideal). This measurement should be
possible at the aggregate (e.g., all equipment performed via all jobs
during the time period ) as well as jobs by department or even groups of
specific jobs.

Through a complex combination of BAQs and Excel manipulation, I am able
to arrive at this information, but it is very tedious and time consuming
to extract this information on a regular basis.

This seems to be a fairly typical performance measure in the
manufacturing industry but I cannot see how Vantage enables simple
reporting of these metrics. I have used some of the Enterprise
Intelligence reports but am only able to see things at the aggregate
level and cannot see how to control the product categories, etc.

In reading some material from other MRP/ERP providers, like Oracle, it
appears they include this type of reporting as standard. The following
is quoted from one of their data sheets:

"Maximize Manufacturing Throughput Manufacturing managers need
up-to-date visibility to the actual production volume, compared to the
planned production. Plans are based on a set of assumptions regarding
events that may be outside an organization's control. By highlighting
deviations from planned production, DBI initiates timely root cause
analysis. (Figure 1) This facilitates corrective action to get
production back on track. DBI provides access to comprehensive and
accurate data to manage manufacturing, answering questions such as:

* What is total value of the production for a given
period?
* How does the production compare to the plan?
* Which items were over and under-produced as compared to
the plan?
* What is total value of the cumulative planned production
for any selected period?
* How much production is required to achieve the plan by
the end of a selected period?"

There's a picture from this data sheet that I've put online at:
http://www.krbmachinery.com/images/oracle_standard_performance.jpg
<http://www.krbmachinery.com/images/oracle_standard_performance.jpg>

My question is whether Vantage makes this type of aggregate (instead of
job-specific) planned vs. earned standard hour reporting available
anywhere in version 6.1, and if not, has anyone built some reporting
tools to make this possible.

Thanks,

John

John Huang
KRB Machinery


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi,

This is a very interesting topic, but I think I need some more
information. The below link seems to refer to sales value rather than
production hours, this is simpler to achieve.

Are you looking to compare load against standard hours booked or
capacity against standard hours booked or something else?

I have in the past tried to create production hours related reports.
This has proved troublesome, to me at least. In 6.1 , when you delve
deeper, the data structure is difficult to report on. I can
understand why the data structure is why it is from a system point of
view but for 'users' to extract the data it is difficult. Personally,
I think that this type of reporting/function is weak in 6.1. I don't
know whether it has been improved in v8 or APS helps in this matter.

If I can be of help , let me know.




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "John Huang" <jhuang@...> wrote:
>
> Our company would like to begin measuring the total standard hours
of
> planned versus actual equipment production during specific time
periods
> (at least monthly, weekly would be ideal). This measurement should
be
> possible at the aggregate (e.g., all equipment performed via all
jobs
> during the time period ) as well as jobs by department or even
groups of
> specific jobs.
>
> Through a complex combination of BAQs and Excel manipulation, I am
able
> to arrive at this information, but it is very tedious and time
consuming
> to extract this information on a regular basis.
>
> This seems to be a fairly typical performance measure in the
> manufacturing industry but I cannot see how Vantage enables simple
> reporting of these metrics. I have used some of the Enterprise
> Intelligence reports but am only able to see things at the aggregate
> level and cannot see how to control the product categories, etc.
>
> In reading some material from other MRP/ERP providers, like Oracle,
it
> appears they include this type of reporting as standard. The
following
> is quoted from one of their data sheets:
>
> "Maximize Manufacturing Throughput Manufacturing managers need
> up-to-date visibility to the actual production volume, compared to
the
> planned production. Plans are based on a set of assumptions
regarding
> events that may be outside an organization's control. By
highlighting
> deviations from planned production, DBI initiates timely root cause
> analysis. (Figure 1) This facilitates corrective action to get
> production back on track. DBI provides access to comprehensive and
> accurate data to manage manufacturing, answering questions such as:
>
> * What is total value of the production for a given
> period?
> * How does the production compare to the plan?
> * Which items were over and under-produced as compared
to
> the plan?
> * What is total value of the cumulative planned
production
> for any selected period?
> * How much production is required to achieve the plan by
> the end of a selected period?"
>
> There's a picture from this data sheet that I've put online at:
> http://www.krbmachinery.com/images/oracle_standard_performance.jpg
>
<http://www.krbmachinery.com/images/oracle_standard_performance.jpg>
>
> My question is whether Vantage makes this type of aggregate
(instead of
> job-specific) planned vs. earned standard hour reporting available
> anywhere in version 6.1, and if not, has anyone built some reporting
> tools to make this possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> John Huang
> KRB Machinery
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
I am basically trying to report frequently on:

- Planned/booked standard hours

- Earned standard hours (cumulative standard hours for equipment
produced in the period

- Performance of actual production hours against earned standard hours
(efficiency)

I think that the graphic is showing planned standard value which
should be some fixed dollar amount for each unit of standard hour
(sometimes different for each product group).

It is still closer to what I am looking for -- which seems to be a
pretty typical way to manage production measures -- than anything I
can find in Vantage.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "brychanwilliams" <brychanw@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is a very interesting topic, but I think I need some more
> information. The below link seems to refer to sales value rather than
> production hours, this is simpler to achieve.
>
> Are you looking to compare load against standard hours booked or
> capacity against standard hours booked or something else?
>
> I have in the past tried to create production hours related reports.
> This has proved troublesome, to me at least. In 6.1 , when you delve
> deeper, the data structure is difficult to report on. I can
> understand why the data structure is why it is from a system point of
> view but for 'users' to extract the data it is difficult. Personally,
> I think that this type of reporting/function is weak in 6.1. I don't
> know whether it has been improved in v8 or APS helps in this matter.
>
> If I can be of help , let me know.
>