Reporting Scrap QTY in MES

I did mark each operation complete as I went through them.

I did the scrap qty/reason in the MES end activity screen.

Do I now need to retrieve/scrap the 5 that I already “scrapped”?

For some reason the Job still thinks there are quantities that I need to take care of to get them out of WIP.

If you simply reported them as scrap, then you shouldn’t have to do anything else. Just for giggles, can you check you inspection processing to see if there is anything in there?

No, nothing there. I wonder if it is simply something not set up yet. I will have to look into it further.

Have you done the dispositions on the job? Manufacturing Receipts or Customer shipments.

Have you marked the job complete with the completion amount?

Charlie Smith

CRS Consulting Services

860-919-1708

Yes. This was a make to stock order. On each operation I marked it complete, at first I didn’t have to as my qty completed matched the run qty. After the operation where I scrapped 5 out of the 150 I manually had to complete each operation:

I cannot receive any more off of this job. I get the “The Quantity entered exceeds the quantity completed for the job” dialog box, yet I still have WIP on this job. The scrapped quantity does show on the Job Production Detail Report. I’m not sure how to find out (if I can) what the system thinks is stuck in WIP.

you need to run Yield process to change your production quantity from the original quantity to the running quantity, this process will correct your WIP, however as @Banderson and others said if you do not have anything pending in Inspection you can close the job with no problem, and you do not need to do that for each operation.

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Note: certain flags need to be ticked at Site, Operation, Job Record to capture the operation scrap.

When you say you have WIP on the job, do you mean WIP demand or Actual WIP?

Does the WIP report have a balance for the job?

Did you mark the job compete and give it a completion qtu?

Charlie Smith

CRS Consulting Services

860-919-1708

It’s got actual WIP still tied to it.

I can mark the job itself as complete, but I really wanted to learn what the process is to have the system handle this.

I think I must be missing something in the setup of the system.

I tried the Yield Recalculation and it didn’t affect it.

You can automate the job complete/close and have percentages to allow the procedure to continue, but there will be cases where you have to manually complete and close jobs.

The leftover WIP is because you received 96% of the job and didn’t adjust the prod qty when you encountered the scrap. The remaining WIP will go to the Manufacturing Variance when you close the job. Consider it the cost of quality.

Charlie Smith

CRS Consulting Services

860-919-1708

it will correct similar cases in the future if you flag the required tick boxes, i have tested it many times, you just need to flag the yield tick boxes before create scrap transactions



so when you said,

What you really meant was, the auto-close didn’t close the jobs because of the exception?

That’s a very different problem than not being able to click close on the job closing screen.

Yes, sorry. The check box is available, I’m just trying to learn how the system deals with different scenarios.

In Job Tracker what is showing in WIP yet under the Part Locations tab?

Ok. I think this is what I was looking for. I will try again with these options set to see what happens…

History wont be changed, going forward yes, do it in test and see.

EDIT
try to call the transaction on Job Adjustment screen after ticking these boxes, and resubmit it, then run the Yield process, it might work

Did checking the Yield boxes work for your scenario - we are in testing now and running into the same issues. The thread on epihelp sort of stopped after this last post.

Thanks
Betty

Yes,

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I’ve been working on other things and planned on coming back to this. The yield recalculation does work, but I have to do some more testing to make sure I fully understand the outcome. What I’m finding is the labor ticket still shows the total with the scrap, but after the yield recalculation process, the operation in the job only shows the adjusted “good” amount with no record of the scrap.

Maybe that’s the way it’s going to be, which is fine, but I haven’t fully tested the process and evaluated the results.

Hi @Doug.C,

after yield runs, the calculated scrap qty (i.e. results) should appear here, thereby you should be able to compare/check the Run, Original, and Scrap Qty for each operation.

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That’s something I wanted to explore. This is on the operation now:
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Here’s the labor ticket:
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The job was originally for 200.

There may be some checkboxes that I’ve ticked that makes this happen rather than showing the scrap on that operation.

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