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Yeah depends on which end of the scale universe you live at. My guess
is that if you're a Vantage customer here you're on the SME end of
things. ROI (and a lot of other things) look really different than at
the higher end of things.

I just noticed that my new 64-bit Dell desktops came with 2.5" drives
inside 3.5" adapters. I'm guessing they're wringing some extra cost out
of not having to buy and spare two different types of drives. Same
economics at work - probably saves them a few bucks/system, but they
make a *lot* of them.

Of course, I still have to spare SATA and IDE drives, both big and
small. :-)

-bws

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of cooner_55421
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: ROI

> There ain't no such animal. ROI compared to what?
> business-specific that the effort involved
> and measurement would be disruptive to the business itself.
HA! thanks for the laugh.

I am reminded of a friend of mine that was an engineer at Ford. He told
me that he received a bonus once for redesigning a high volume part and
removing costs of just a few cents. Where he works now, he'd be
reprimanded for putting time into something like that.
Any chance anyone has a document / spreadsheet they used for ROI on
their ERP implementation and would be willing to share? If so, please
email it to me. Thank you in advance!





Vic Drecchio



TIMCO Aerosystems

Greensboro, NC
Email: vic.drecchio@...
Mobile: 704.530.3092





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There ain't no such animal. ROI compared to what? Doing it on the
back of a napkin? Using whatever you were using before? Using
dis-integrated systems? Would Vantage have been better than
Infor/SAP/whatever? How do you measure your indirect costs?

We tried to get our heads around this and gave up, or at least I
couldn't get anyone to bite. I've seen a number of articles on this
over the past year:


http://www.cio.com/article/487794/SMB_ERP_Projects_Don_t_Forget_the_ROI

I'd suggest that the models required to measure real-world ROI are so
business-specific that the effort involved in coming up with the metrics
and measurement would be disruptive to the business itself.

Reminds of this comic I saw today ("At Home with the Heisenbergs"):

http://xkcd.com/824/

Maybe you can come up with a few top-line metrics that take a wild
swing at it, but at small companies I think you're better off asking 1)
did the project succeed, 2) are we better off than we were before the
project, and 3) can we continue to improve using the tools we have?

My $0.02.

-bws

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:46 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] ROI

Any chance anyone has a document / spreadsheet they used for ROI on
their ERP implementation and would be willing to share? If so, please
email it to me. Thank you in advance!