Running vantage clustered between two servers

Hi,

Thanks for that. I will try it out this week.

Regards,

Ross



On 5 Mar 2012, at 12:57, "Hatcher, John" <johnh@...> wrote:

> What is your setup for storage? We have found that this plays a big
> role in the overall performance of your Epicor system.
>
> You may want to take a look at ProTop. This is a free tool that we
> found very helpful in analyzing our system to get a better idea of where
> the bottlenecks were.
>
> John A. Hatcher
>
> Manager of IS
>
> Versa Products Co., Inc.
>
> (201) 843-2400 x4148
>
> (201) 843-2931 fax
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi,

I don't know if anyone is able to help. We are running vantage using a progress database on a single windows 2003 server. I am looking for some help on how to split the load between two servers by clustering them. I found some notes on the epicor website for the windows server setup but no notes on the application servers settings and how I should split them as well as the settings required.

Any help or documentation would be appreciated.

Regards,

Ross
A truly clustered DB requires the purchase of Fathom Replication from
Progress and it is a very involved process.

I suppose the question is what you're the end result is that you are looking
for with setting this up, there may be other alternatives besides clustering
to get what you want from the system.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ross Robertson
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:34 PM
To: Vantage Group
Subject: [Vantage] Running vantage clustered between two servers

Hi,

I don't know if anyone is able to help. We are running vantage using a
progress database on a single windows 2003 server. I am looking for some
help on how to split the load between two servers by clustering them. I
found some notes on the epicor website for the windows server setup but no
notes on the application servers settings and how I should split them as
well as the settings required.

Any help or documentation would be appreciated.

Regards,

Ross




------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
Hi,

We are using a virtual environment and our production server has 8 cores allocated to it. We have complaints that vantage in general(screen access/printing reports/ entering data) is slow. When speaking with epicor support they advised that if we clustered two servers and split the CPU and memory between the two that this could help.
This is what I was going to try and achieve and split the application servers as well and try to test the improvement.

Regards,

Ross



On 3 Mar 2012, at 17:41, "Ned C." <TechnoBabbly@...> wrote:

> A truly clustered DB requires the purchase of Fathom Replication from
> Progress and it is a very involved process.
>
> I suppose the question is what you're the end result is that you are looking
> for with setting this up, there may be other alternatives besides clustering
> to get what you want from the system.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Ross Robertson
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:34 PM
> To: Vantage Group
> Subject: [Vantage] Running vantage clustered between two servers
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if anyone is able to help. We are running vantage using a
> progress database on a single windows 2003 server. I am looking for some
> help on how to split the load between two servers by clustering them. I
> found some notes on the epicor website for the windows server setup but no
> notes on the application servers settings and how I should split them as
> well as the settings required.
>
> Any help or documentation would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ross
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>


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Before you go trough all that trouble watch your load during peak use, I am
willing to bet that CPU and RAM sit there looking bored. 90% of the issues
with Vantage do not arise from High CPU usage or even Ram ove-rutilizatoin
the problem is generally the IO bottle neck. I bet its your hard-drives
that can't keep up. If that's the case you can do a whole lot more by
fixing your raid config / adding more spindles than by clustering things.



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On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Ross Robertson <ross_edinburgh@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> We are using a virtual environment and our production server has 8 cores
> allocated to it. We have complaints that vantage in general(screen
> access/printing reports/ entering data) is slow. When speaking with epicor
> support they advised that if we clustered two servers and split the CPU and
> memory between the two that this could help.
> This is what I was going to try and achieve and split the application
> servers as well and try to test the improvement.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ross
>
>
> On 3 Mar 2012, at 17:41, "Ned C." <TechnoBabbly@...> wrote:
>
> > A truly clustered DB requires the purchase of Fathom Replication from
> > Progress and it is a very involved process.
> >
> > I suppose the question is what you're the end result is that you are
> looking
> > for with setting this up, there may be other alternatives besides
> clustering
> > to get what you want from the system.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Ross Robertson
> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:34 PM
> > To: Vantage Group
> > Subject: [Vantage] Running vantage clustered between two servers
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't know if anyone is able to help. We are running vantage using a
> > progress database on a single windows 2003 server. I am looking for some
> > help on how to split the load between two servers by clustering them. I
> > found some notes on the epicor website for the windows server setup but
> no
> > notes on the application servers settings and how I should split them as
> > well as the settings required.
> >
> > Any help or documentation would be appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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This is correct, especially since the I/O bottleneck on the DB will still
exist no matter how many application servers you have running, and it could
possibly get worse since you are eliminating shared memory usage by
separating out servers.

You're system configuration, both hardware and settings could play a huge
part in any issues you are having, and I suspect one of those is really the
culprit. How many users are you running I have never really seen an
installation with fewer than 250 or so office users actually require a
clustering of application servers.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jose Gomez
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 9:28 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Running vantage clustered between two servers

Before you go trough all that trouble watch your load during peak use, I am
willing to bet that CPU and RAM sit there looking bored. 90% of the issues
with Vantage do not arise from High CPU usage or even Ram ove-rutilizatoin
the problem is generally the IO bottle neck. I bet its your hard-drives that
can't keep up. If that's the case you can do a whole lot more by fixing your
raid config / adding more spindles than by clustering things.



*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*checkout my new blog <http://www.usdoingstuff.com> *
*
*T: 904.469.1524 mobile
E: jose@...
http://www.josecgomez.com
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<http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
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On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Ross Robertson
<ross_edinburgh@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> We are using a virtual environment and our production server has 8
> cores allocated to it. We have complaints that vantage in
> general(screen access/printing reports/ entering data) is slow. When
> speaking with epicor support they advised that if we clustered two
> servers and split the CPU and memory between the two that this could help.
> This is what I was going to try and achieve and split the application
> servers as well and try to test the improvement.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ross
>
>
> On 3 Mar 2012, at 17:41, "Ned C." <TechnoBabbly@...> wrote:
>
> > A truly clustered DB requires the purchase of Fathom Replication
> > from Progress and it is a very involved process.
> >
> > I suppose the question is what you're the end result is that you are
> looking
> > for with setting this up, there may be other alternatives besides
> clustering
> > to get what you want from the system.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Ross Robertson
> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:34 PM
> > To: Vantage Group
> > Subject: [Vantage] Running vantage clustered between two servers
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't know if anyone is able to help. We are running vantage using
> > a progress database on a single windows 2003 server. I am looking
> > for some help on how to split the load between two servers by
> > clustering them. I found some notes on the epicor website for the
> > windows server setup but
> no
> > notes on the application servers settings and how I should split
> > them as well as the settings required.
> >
> > Any help or documentation would be appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
> > must
> have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
> > Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
What is your setup for storage? We have found that this plays a big
role in the overall performance of your Epicor system.



You may want to take a look at ProTop. This is a free tool that we
found very helpful in analyzing our system to get a better idea of where
the bottlenecks were.



John A. Hatcher

Manager of IS

Versa Products Co., Inc.

(201) 843-2400 x4148

(201) 843-2931 fax



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