Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

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I hear you Rob...strangely enough it appears that in our system for
whatever the reason (unless its so rare we haven't noticed it) it is
respecting precedence relationships..but I understand many things could
effect that. We DO see what you do however, and that is too many
unacceptable dates (such as early), when capacity is available to
minimize WIP (and yes the minimize WIP box is checked). We are still
battling with those guys over the literally thousands of dollars we
spent in consulting fees with them only to prove what you just said...
it was F'n broke!!



Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account





Rob

SCR59236 (scheduled for fix in 408, twice delayed already).

Right now the global (randomly but significantly - 3/4 of our jobs are
impacted daily) doesn't respect the OP to OP defined relationship
(example finish to start serial processing is our norm).

We find up to 75% of our jobs have OPs scheduled out of sequence. This
is brutal on material planning when materials are tied to the
mischeduled OPs:

(Real) Example:

OpSeq OpCode OpQty QtyCmpl setup hrs run hrs start date reporting type
5 9510 50 0 0 0.01 8/27/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
10 3100 50 0 0.08 0.35 6/8/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
20 4700 50 0 0 0.42 6/24/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
30 5200 50 0 0 0.83 7/22/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
40 3900 50 0 0 0.42 7/22/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
50 9100 50 0 0 0.01 7/22/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity

The required date of this job is 9/4. Any materials associated w/ OPs
10-50 have requirement dates much sooner than really needed.

Truly THE worst finite scheduler I've ever had to put up with in 29
years of manufacturing. We've been live a year and are still waiting
(after wasting months on just 'proving' the bug existed).

Since Epicor clearly has not comittment to quality, we've decided to
eliminate dependance and go massively kanban where ever possible.

I'll be satisfied when we can run this business with a spreadsheet,
quickbooks and visual signals.

Rob



________________________________
From: Rob Bucek <rbucek@... <mailto:rbucek%40dsmfg.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:39:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Rob,

Whats the SCR details on that global scheduling bug fix in 408?

Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)

____________ _________ _________ __

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Mark,

If you upgrade, I'd skip 404 entirely (disgustingly buggy) and at least
go to 405a (also some bugs - but liveable ones at least for us).

We've not proceeded to 407 as many of the things I've read about it here
would not be liveable for us. 408 is our goal as it is to contain an SCR
fix for us of a big bug in the global scheduler... Even then I suspect
we'll await a 408a or b (and not waste time being guinea pigs).

Rob

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@yahoo. com <mailto:mjfw2003% 40yahoo.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Thanks, we are on 403A so looks like an upgrade is needed

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com> wrote:

From: Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:44 AM

Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a
and it seems to be working ok for us.

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@.. .> wrote:
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> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount
does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found
this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced
this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
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Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?




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Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a and it seems to be working ok for us.


Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@...> wrote:
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> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
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Thanks, we are on 403A so looks like an upgrade is needed

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@...> wrote:


From: Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:44 AM








Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a and it seems to be working ok for us.

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@.. .> wrote:
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> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
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Mark,

If you upgrade, I'd skip 404 entirely (disgustingly buggy) and at least go to 405a (also some bugs - but liveable ones at least for us).

We've not proceeded to 407 as many of the things I've read about it here would not be liveable for us. 408 is our goal as it is to contain an SCR fix for us of a big bug in the global scheduler... Even then I suspect we'll await a 408a or b (and not waste time being guinea pigs).

Rob




________________________________
From: Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account





Thanks, we are on 403A so looks like an upgrade is needed

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com> wrote:

From: Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:44 AM

Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a and it seems to be working ok for us.

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@.. .> wrote:
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> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
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Thanks Rob,, I've been keeping up with the posts to see what version we can go to but the only downloads they have out there are 407C. I haven't requested an earlier download version before, can I be specific about which one I want?

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...> wrote:


From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 12:37 PM








Mark,

If you upgrade, I'd skip 404 entirely (disgustingly buggy) and at least go to 405a (also some bugs - but liveable ones at least for us).

We've not proceeded to 407 as many of the things I've read about it here would not be liveable for us. 408 is our goal as it is to contain an SCR fix for us of a big bug in the global scheduler... Even then I suspect we'll await a 408a or b (and not waste time being guinea pigs).

Rob

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Thanks, we are on 403A so looks like an upgrade is needed

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com> wrote:

From: Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:44 AM

Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a and it seems to be working ok for us.

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@.. .> wrote:
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> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
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Rob,



Whats the SCR details on that global scheduling bug fix in 408?



Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account





Mark,

If you upgrade, I'd skip 404 entirely (disgustingly buggy) and at least
go to 405a (also some bugs - but liveable ones at least for us).

We've not proceeded to 407 as many of the things I've read about it here
would not be liveable for us. 408 is our goal as it is to contain an SCR
fix for us of a big bug in the global scheduler... Even then I suspect
we'll await a 408a or b (and not waste time being guinea pigs).

Rob

________________________________
From: Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@... <mailto:mjfw2003%40yahoo.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Thanks, we are on 403A so looks like an upgrade is needed

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com> wrote:

From: Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:44 AM

Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a
and it seems to be working ok for us.

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@.. .> wrote:
>
> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount
does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found
this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced
this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
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Can't hurt to ask. Knowing Vantage, the answer won't be pleasing.

What ever you must upgrade to, plan a good month of testing on an install on a completly seperate development server loaded with your current data.

The usual suspects are custom reports requiring some relinking (or report styles going kablooey). Personalizations can be lost. Review your recurring task sets (and if they are BAQ exports, change the path of the export file).
From 403, the biggest changes you'll see are with PO Entry, Packout & the new split process global.

I remember PO entry changed so much I had to give up on reviving a 403 customization. We ended up redoing from scratch (as some of the customization was no longer needed to handle bugs in 403).

You'll probaly also have to revisit your company config settings to make sure the install didn't 're'default them. Same goes for any performance tuning tweaks.

Rob




________________________________
From: Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:01:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account





Thanks Rob,, I've been keeping up with the posts to see what version we can go to but the only downloads they have out there are 407C. I haven't requested an earlier download version before, can I be specific about which one I want?

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 12:37 PM

Mark,

If you upgrade, I'd skip 404 entirely (disgustingly buggy) and at least go to 405a (also some bugs - but liveable ones at least for us).

We've not proceeded to 407 as many of the things I've read about it here would not be liveable for us. 408 is our goal as it is to contain an SCR fix for us of a big bug in the global scheduler... Even then I suspect we'll await a 408a or b (and not waste time being guinea pigs).

Rob

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Thanks, we are on 403A so looks like an upgrade is needed

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com> wrote:

From: Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:44 AM

Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a and it seems to be working ok for us.

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@.. .> wrote:
>
> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
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Rob

SCR59236 (scheduled for fix in 408, twice delayed already).

Right now the global (randomly but significantly - 3/4 of our jobs are impacted daily) doesn't respect the OP to OP defined relationship (example finish to start serial processing is our norm).

We find up to 75% of our jobs have OPs scheduled out of sequence. This is brutal on material planning when materials are tied to the mischeduled OPs:

(Real) Example:

OpSeq OpCode OpQty QtyCmpl setup hrs run hrs start date reporting type
5 9510 50 0 0 0.01 8/27/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
10 3100 50 0 0.08 0.35 6/8/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
20 4700 50 0 0 0.42 6/24/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
30 5200 50 0 0 0.83 7/22/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
40 3900 50 0 0 0.42 7/22/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity
50 9100 50 0 0 0.01 7/22/2009 0:00 Time and Quantity

The required date of this job is 9/4. Any materials associated w/ OPs 10-50 have requirement dates much sooner than really needed.

Truly THE worst finite scheduler I've ever had to put up with in 29 years of manufacturing. We've been live a year and are still waiting (after wasting months on just 'proving' the bug existed).

Since Epicor clearly has not comittment to quality, we've decided to eliminate dependance and go massively kanban where ever possible.

I'll be satisfied when we can run this business with a spreadsheet, quickbooks and visual signals.

Rob

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From: Rob Bucek <rbucek@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:39:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account





Rob,

Whats the SCR details on that global scheduling bug fix in 408?

Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)

____________ _________ _________ __

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Mark,

If you upgrade, I'd skip 404 entirely (disgustingly buggy) and at least
go to 405a (also some bugs - but liveable ones at least for us).

We've not proceeded to 407 as many of the things I've read about it here
would not be liveable for us. 408 is our goal as it is to contain an SCR
fix for us of a big bug in the global scheduler... Even then I suspect
we'll await a 408a or b (and not waste time being guinea pigs).

Rob

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@yahoo. com <mailto:mjfw2003% 40yahoo.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Thanks, we are on 403A so looks like an upgrade is needed

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com> wrote:

From: Nigel Kerley <nigel.kerley@ johnhinde. com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:44 AM

Hi Mark,

I think this was an issue in earlier versions of 8.03.400. We're on 406a
and it seems to be working ok for us.

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Mark Wagner <mjfw2003@.. .> wrote:
>
> Our A/R Clearing is being debited when we ship but that same amount
does not clear when we invoice. I have reviewed transactions and found
this common problem is linked to Sales Kits. Has anyone else experienced
this and is there an account setup somewhere that I may have missed?
>
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And when oh when will we see 408? It was due on Friday.

--
Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix / Picometrix
    bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Rob

SCR59236 (scheduled for fix in 408, twice delayed already).
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...and last month, ...and initially early March....

;o


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From: Brian W. Spolarich <bspolarich@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:11:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account





And when oh when will we see 408? It was due on Friday.

--
Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix / Picometrix
    bspolarich@advanced photonix. com ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotoni x.com

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Sales Kits Not Crediting AR Clearing Account

Rob

SCR59236 (scheduled for fix in 408, twice delayed already).







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