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That was the alternative plan we came up w/ on Friday. Glad to hear it did work, guess that will be the way we go - Thanks Bob

Brenda

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robertbeaghan
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK



We had to do something similar with MRP. We created five different schedules in the System Agent, each using a dynamic date setting two days out. The effectively prevented MRP from planning anything "today" and "tomorrow".

Monday's MRP process was scheduled to run at 12:01am with a dynamic Schedule Start Date set to Wednesday; Tuesday's had a Schedule Start Date of Thursday, etc. The set of five schedules looked like this:

Run Day Schedule Start Date
========= ===================
Monday Wednesday
Tuesday Thursday
Wednesday Friday
Thursday Next Monday
Friday Next Tuesday

Yes, it stinks having that many schedules setup, but it did the job.

Bob Beaghan

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, brenda mohr <brenda@...<mailto:brenda@...>> wrote:
>
> My biggest headache right now is: I have Global Scheduling set to run from a Process Set. If I use the dynamic date set, I can get it to run schedule startdate tomorrow at 11:59PM, but I want it to run w/ a date of tomorrow plus one. Can't get to the BO as it is actually a procedure. I customized the form, but duh the form doesn't trigger, so my dates don't change. I can't find where to add to the dynamic list to add my own either.
>
> Brenda
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:06 AM
> To: Vantage
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
> I've so far never ran into anything I can't do with the standard customization, BPM tools
>
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@...
> http://www.josecgomez.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:59 AM, brenda mohr <brenda@...<mailto:brenda@...>> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Possibly Both. Just can't get to some of the things I want to
> > customize so was going to look down another path to see if I get any ideas.
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of jckinneman
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:21 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >
> >
> > What will you be using the SDK for? As with any new tool there is a
> > learning curve so while it may be the ideal tool for some things, is
> > the time to learn it worth the pay off? Sometimes a less than ideal
> > tool is OK based on the ROI of each.
> >
> > Unless you need a new business object or new tables most items can be
> > solved using embedded customization. If you just need a new screen you
> > can take a UD table entry screen and hide all of its controls and use
> > it as a blank canvas. You then add new controls, events and hookup
> > calls to any methods you need. Unless you want to there is no
> > interaction with the underlying UD table.
> >
> > Jim Kinneman
> > Encompass Solutions, Inc
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > brenda mohr <brenda@<mailto:brenda@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in
> > > head
> > first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
> > >
> > > Brenda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>



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Hello,



Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?

What does it come with?



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



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Here's what you'll get :

- Object designer
- Proxy Generator
- BL Tester
- Adapter creator
- Application Generator

For the rest, you'll have to buy Visual Studio .NET 2003 and Infragistics NetAdvantage 2003 volume 2.

________________________________

De : vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Joe Rojas
Envoyé : 29 septembre 2006 09:15
À : vantage@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [Vantage] SDK

Hello,

Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?

What does it come with?

Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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4
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual Studio.net
Here is the list
Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
and creating progress .p code
Here is a breif overview:
Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose progress
code as C# projects.

UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
communicatgion to the matching business objects.

BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
Interface Form.
Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some to
do step info.

Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects

Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
correct HTM help Page

WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
services.

C# client source code.

Not included, they say are required
VS.net
Infragistics NetAdvantage
Visual Sourcesafe
OpenEdgeStudio

> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
>
> What does it come with?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> IT Manager
>
> TNCO, Inc.
>
> 781-447-6661 x7506
>
> jrojas@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
5
So it sounds like just having Visual Studio .Net is not enough to
actually extend Vantage...

Darn...



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:46 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual Studio.net
Here is the list
Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
and creating progress .p code
Here is a breif overview:
Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose progress
code as C# projects.

UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
communicatgion to the matching business objects.

BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
Interface Form.
Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some to
do step info.

Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects

Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
correct HTM help Page

WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
services.

C# client source code.

Not included, they say are required
VS.net
Infragistics NetAdvantage
Visual Sourcesafe
OpenEdgeStudio

> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
>
> What does it come with?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> IT Manager
>
> TNCO, Inc.
>
> 781-447-6661 x7506
>
> jrojas@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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6
Hello

We purchased the SDK (we are on 808G and SQL DB) and we had the training for
the tools, after that we know what not to use. The steps you need to do to
create a simple form are too complicated. Also for every new patch you need
to do several steps to update all folders with the code and re-compile the
modifications.

Also you need to be careful if you modify an existing form because after a
new patch implemented you need to re-apply the changes to the form

The other big inconvenience is with the regular SDK you do not have access
to the server code you only get the code for the client (just interface) all
the business code resides in the server.

If you are thinking to expand Vantage with new tables, this is not included;
basically the code is to add new screens and reports to the existing tables.
You need to modify the db schema to add new db objects.

What we are doing is using the customizations and VB.net. If you take an
UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects you can add new VB
objects and start coding in VB.Net. The other great advantage is that you
can connect directly to the SQL server and the performance is much much
better.

This way is limited by the objects that Epicor provide but in our case is
enough to create new screens that can access to any existing and new tables
and is patch-proof! In fact we use our own DB to store all new objects that
are link the MfgSys80 db.

For new reports we created a Crystal viewer (in VB.Net) outside Vantage and
we just call it and we send as parameters the report we want to run and the
parameters need it for the report. This is also is much faster than Vantage
reports but do not have the schedule capability.

All depend on what you want to do, if you can use only customization, I
recommend that.

Regards,
Jose Ferrer


>From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:03:30 -0400
>
>So it sounds like just having Visual Studio .Net is not enough to
>actually extend Vantage...
>
>Darn...
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe Rojas
>
>IT Manager
>
>TNCO, Inc.
>
>781-447-6661 x7506
>
>jrojas@...
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>Of Michael McWilliams
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:46 AM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
>
>--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
>Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
>tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
>with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual Studio.net
>Here is the list
>Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
>and creating progress .p code
>Here is a breif overview:
>Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose progress
>code as C# projects.
>
>UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
>communicatgion to the matching business objects.
>
>BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
>from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
>Interface Form.
>Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some to
>do step info.
>
>Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects
>
>Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
>correct HTM help Page
>
>WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
>services.
>
>C# client source code.
>
>Not included, they say are required
>VS.net
>Infragistics NetAdvantage
>Visual Sourcesafe
>OpenEdgeStudio
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
> >
> > What does it come with?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe Rojas
> >
> > IT Manager
> >
> > TNCO, Inc.
> >
> > 781-447-6661 x7506
> >
> > jrojas@...
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Thanks for the insight Jose!



"If you take an UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects
you can add new VB objects and start coding in VB.Net."



Could you expand on this...I didn't follow what you meant.



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jose Ferrer
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK



Hello

We purchased the SDK (we are on 808G and SQL DB) and we had the training
for
the tools, after that we know what not to use. The steps you need to do
to
create a simple form are too complicated. Also for every new patch you
need
to do several steps to update all folders with the code and re-compile
the
modifications.

Also you need to be careful if you modify an existing form because after
a
new patch implemented you need to re-apply the changes to the form

The other big inconvenience is with the regular SDK you do not have
access
to the server code you only get the code for the client (just interface)
all
the business code resides in the server.

If you are thinking to expand Vantage with new tables, this is not
included;
basically the code is to add new screens and reports to the existing
tables.
You need to modify the db schema to add new db objects.

What we are doing is using the customizations and VB.net. If you take an

UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects you can add new VB

objects and start coding in VB.Net. The other great advantage is that
you
can connect directly to the SQL server and the performance is much much
better.

This way is limited by the objects that Epicor provide but in our case
is
enough to create new screens that can access to any existing and new
tables
and is patch-proof! In fact we use our own DB to store all new objects
that
are link the MfgSys80 db.

For new reports we created a Crystal viewer (in VB.Net) outside Vantage
and
we just call it and we send as parameters the report we want to run and
the
parameters need it for the report. This is also is much faster than
Vantage
reports but do not have the schedule capability.

All depend on what you want to do, if you can use only customization, I
recommend that.

Regards,
Jose Ferrer

>From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:03:30 -0400
>
>So it sounds like just having Visual Studio .Net is not enough to
>actually extend Vantage...
>
>Darn...
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe Rojas
>
>IT Manager
>
>TNCO, Inc.
>
>781-447-6661 x7506
>
>jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
>Of Michael McWilliams
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:46 AM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
>
>--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
>Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
>tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
>with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual Studio.net
>Here is the list
>Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
>and creating progress .p code
>Here is a breif overview:
>Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose progress
>code as C# projects.
>
>UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
>communicatgion to the matching business objects.
>
>BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
>from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
>Interface Form.
>Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some to
>do step info.
>
>Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects
>
>Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
>correct HTM help Page
>
>WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
>services.
>
>C# client source code.
>
>Not included, they say are required
>VS.net
>Infragistics NetAdvantage
>Visual Sourcesafe
>OpenEdgeStudio
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
> >
> > What does it come with?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe Rojas
> >
> > IT Manager
> >
> > TNCO, Inc.
> >
> > 781-447-6661 x7506
> >
> > jrojas@...
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Hi

In Vantage there are 20 user tables named UD01 - UD20 (single table) and
like 10 (UD100) with parent-child capability that you can use to store what
ever you need.

For example in UD01 we have the ZIP code information that we use to auto
populate city, state, county and some extra data in other screens by just
typing the ZIP code.

In order to use them just create a menu option and use program
"Epicor.Mfg.AD.UDxx.dll". There is one dll per table.

Once you add the menu option you can customize the screen and add all the VB
code you want. Using just one dll (for example Epicor.Mfg.AD.UD20.dll) you
can have as many different screens as you want. (just create another menu
option with same dll and assign the desire customization)

So, you can have multiple screens in Vantage with the same feel and look and
security too.

Regards,
Jose Ferrer




>From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:59:34 -0400
>
>Thanks for the insight Jose!
>
>
>
>"If you take an UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects
>you can add new VB objects and start coding in VB.Net."
>
>
>
>Could you expand on this...I didn't follow what you meant.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe Rojas
>
>IT Manager
>
>TNCO, Inc.
>
>781-447-6661 x7506
>
>jrojas@...
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>Of Jose Ferrer
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:38 PM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
>
>Hello
>
>We purchased the SDK (we are on 808G and SQL DB) and we had the training
>for
>the tools, after that we know what not to use. The steps you need to do
>to
>create a simple form are too complicated. Also for every new patch you
>need
>to do several steps to update all folders with the code and re-compile
>the
>modifications.
>
>Also you need to be careful if you modify an existing form because after
>a
>new patch implemented you need to re-apply the changes to the form
>
>The other big inconvenience is with the regular SDK you do not have
>access
>to the server code you only get the code for the client (just interface)
>all
>the business code resides in the server.
>
>If you are thinking to expand Vantage with new tables, this is not
>included;
>basically the code is to add new screens and reports to the existing
>tables.
>You need to modify the db schema to add new db objects.
>
>What we are doing is using the customizations and VB.net. If you take an
>
>UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects you can add new VB
>
>objects and start coding in VB.Net. The other great advantage is that
>you
>can connect directly to the SQL server and the performance is much much
>better.
>
>This way is limited by the objects that Epicor provide but in our case
>is
>enough to create new screens that can access to any existing and new
>tables
>and is patch-proof! In fact we use our own DB to store all new objects
>that
>are link the MfgSys80 db.
>
>For new reports we created a Crystal viewer (in VB.Net) outside Vantage
>and
>we just call it and we send as parameters the report we want to run and
>the
>parameters need it for the report. This is also is much faster than
>Vantage
>reports but do not have the schedule capability.
>
>All depend on what you want to do, if you can use only customization, I
>recommend that.
>
>Regards,
>Jose Ferrer
>
> >From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
> >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:03:30 -0400
> >
> >So it sounds like just having Visual Studio .Net is not enough to
> >actually extend Vantage...
> >
> >Darn...
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Joe Rojas
> >
> >IT Manager
> >
> >TNCO, Inc.
> >
> >781-447-6661 x7506
> >
> >jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
>Behalf
> >Of Michael McWilliams
> >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:46 AM
> >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
> >Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
> >We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
> >tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
> >with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual Studio.net
> >Here is the list
> >Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
> >and creating progress .p code
> >Here is a breif overview:
> >Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose progress
> >code as C# projects.
> >
> >UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
> >communicatgion to the matching business objects.
> >
> >BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
> >from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
> >Interface Form.
> >Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some to
> >do step info.
> >
> >Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects
> >
> >Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
> >correct HTM help Page
> >
> >WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
> >services.
> >
> >C# client source code.
> >
> >Not included, they say are required
> >VS.net
> >Infragistics NetAdvantage
> >Visual Sourcesafe
> >OpenEdgeStudio
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
> > >
> > > What does it come with?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Joe Rojas
> > >
> > > IT Manager
> > >
> > > TNCO, Inc.
> > >
> > > 781-447-6661 x7506
> > >
> > > jrojas@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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9
Sounds pretty cool Jose.

Do you need the SDK to do this?



I followed your instructions and I get an error message that says:

Error Detail

============

Cannot access this menu item: Extention Test





Inner Exception

===============

Object reference not set to an instance of an object.



Inner Stack Trace

=================

at Epicor.Mfg.UI.Startup.launchUIApp(MenuRow menuRow)



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jose Ferrer
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:37 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK



Hi

In Vantage there are 20 user tables named UD01 - UD20 (single table) and

like 10 (UD100) with parent-child capability that you can use to store
what
ever you need.

For example in UD01 we have the ZIP code information that we use to auto

populate city, state, county and some extra data in other screens by
just
typing the ZIP code.

In order to use them just create a menu option and use program
"Epicor.Mfg.AD.UDxx.dll". There is one dll per table.

Once you add the menu option you can customize the screen and add all
the VB
code you want. Using just one dll (for example Epicor.Mfg.AD.UD20.dll)
you
can have as many different screens as you want. (just create another
menu
option with same dll and assign the desire customization)

So, you can have multiple screens in Vantage with the same feel and look
and
security too.

Regards,
Jose Ferrer

>From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:59:34 -0400
>
>Thanks for the insight Jose!
>
>
>
>"If you take an UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects
>you can add new VB objects and start coding in VB.Net."
>
>
>
>Could you expand on this...I didn't follow what you meant.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe Rojas
>
>IT Manager
>
>TNCO, Inc.
>
>781-447-6661 x7506
>
>jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
>Of Jose Ferrer
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:38 PM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
>
>Hello
>
>We purchased the SDK (we are on 808G and SQL DB) and we had the
training
>for
>the tools, after that we know what not to use. The steps you need to do
>to
>create a simple form are too complicated. Also for every new patch you
>need
>to do several steps to update all folders with the code and re-compile
>the
>modifications.
>
>Also you need to be careful if you modify an existing form because
after
>a
>new patch implemented you need to re-apply the changes to the form
>
>The other big inconvenience is with the regular SDK you do not have
>access
>to the server code you only get the code for the client (just
interface)
>all
>the business code resides in the server.
>
>If you are thinking to expand Vantage with new tables, this is not
>included;
>basically the code is to add new screens and reports to the existing
>tables.
>You need to modify the db schema to add new db objects.
>
>What we are doing is using the customizations and VB.net. If you take
an
>
>UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects you can add new
VB
>
>objects and start coding in VB.Net. The other great advantage is that
>you
>can connect directly to the SQL server and the performance is much much
>better.
>
>This way is limited by the objects that Epicor provide but in our case
>is
>enough to create new screens that can access to any existing and new
>tables
>and is patch-proof! In fact we use our own DB to store all new objects
>that
>are link the MfgSys80 db.
>
>For new reports we created a Crystal viewer (in VB.Net) outside Vantage
>and
>we just call it and we send as parameters the report we want to run and
>the
>parameters need it for the report. This is also is much faster than
>Vantage
>reports but do not have the schedule capability.
>
>All depend on what you want to do, if you can use only customization, I
>recommend that.
>
>Regards,
>Jose Ferrer
>
> >From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
<mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
> >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:03:30 -0400
> >
> >So it sounds like just having Visual Studio .Net is not enough to
> >actually extend Vantage...
> >
> >Darn...
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Joe Rojas
> >
> >IT Manager
> >
> >TNCO, Inc.
> >
> >781-447-6661 x7506
> >
> >jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
<mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
>Behalf
> >Of Michael McWilliams
> >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:46 AM
> >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
> >Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
> >We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
> >tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
> >with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual Studio.net
> >Here is the list
> >Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
> >and creating progress .p code
> >Here is a breif overview:
> >Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose progress
> >code as C# projects.
> >
> >UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
> >communicatgion to the matching business objects.
> >
> >BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
> >from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
> >Interface Form.
> >Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some to
> >do step info.
> >
> >Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects
> >
> >Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
> >correct HTM help Page
> >
> >WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
> >services.
> >
> >C# client source code.
> >
> >Not included, they say are required
> >VS.net
> >Infragistics NetAdvantage
> >Visual Sourcesafe
> >OpenEdgeStudio
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
> > >
> > > What does it come with?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Joe Rojas
> > >
> > > IT Manager
> > >
> > > TNCO, Inc.
> > >
> > > 781-447-6661 x7506
> > >
> > > jrojas@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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Hi

Nope you do not need SDK to add and customize those screens

when you created the menu option did you check in the program fileds that
was only "Epicor.Mfg.UI.UD05Entry.dll" (or the table number you want)
sometimes the system adds the path and it should not have it.

Just try by adding the menu option, exit vantage and test it without
customizations.

In Vantage help, look for "User Defined Tables" you will find more
information and details about this

If not work let us know

Regards,
JF


>From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:42:31 -0400
>
>Sounds pretty cool Jose.
>
>Do you need the SDK to do this?
>
>
>
>I followed your instructions and I get an error message that says:
>
>Error Detail
>
>============
>
>Cannot access this menu item: Extention Test
>
>
>
>
>
>Inner Exception
>
>===============
>
>Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
>
>
>
>Inner Stack Trace
>
>=================
>
> at Epicor.Mfg.UI.Startup.launchUIApp(MenuRow menuRow)
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe Rojas
>
>IT Manager
>
>TNCO, Inc.
>
>781-447-6661 x7506
>
>jrojas@...
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>Of Jose Ferrer
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:37 PM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
>
>Hi
>
>In Vantage there are 20 user tables named UD01 - UD20 (single table) and
>
>like 10 (UD100) with parent-child capability that you can use to store
>what
>ever you need.
>
>For example in UD01 we have the ZIP code information that we use to auto
>
>populate city, state, county and some extra data in other screens by
>just
>typing the ZIP code.
>
>In order to use them just create a menu option and use program
>"Epicor.Mfg.AD.UDxx.dll". There is one dll per table.
>
>Once you add the menu option you can customize the screen and add all
>the VB
>code you want. Using just one dll (for example Epicor.Mfg.AD.UD20.dll)
>you
>can have as many different screens as you want. (just create another
>menu
>option with same dll and assign the desire customization)
>
>So, you can have multiple screens in Vantage with the same feel and look
>and
>security too.
>
>Regards,
>Jose Ferrer
>
> >From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
> >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:59:34 -0400
> >
> >Thanks for the insight Jose!
> >
> >
> >
> >"If you take an UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects
> >you can add new VB objects and start coding in VB.Net."
> >
> >
> >
> >Could you expand on this...I didn't follow what you meant.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Joe Rojas
> >
> >IT Manager
> >
> >TNCO, Inc.
> >
> >781-447-6661 x7506
> >
> >jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
>Behalf
> >Of Jose Ferrer
> >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:38 PM
> >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >
> >
> >
> >Hello
> >
> >We purchased the SDK (we are on 808G and SQL DB) and we had the
>training
> >for
> >the tools, after that we know what not to use. The steps you need to do
> >to
> >create a simple form are too complicated. Also for every new patch you
> >need
> >to do several steps to update all folders with the code and re-compile
> >the
> >modifications.
> >
> >Also you need to be careful if you modify an existing form because
>after
> >a
> >new patch implemented you need to re-apply the changes to the form
> >
> >The other big inconvenience is with the regular SDK you do not have
> >access
> >to the server code you only get the code for the client (just
>interface)
> >all
> >the business code resides in the server.
> >
> >If you are thinking to expand Vantage with new tables, this is not
> >included;
> >basically the code is to add new screens and reports to the existing
> >tables.
> >You need to modify the db schema to add new db objects.
> >
> >What we are doing is using the customizations and VB.net. If you take
>an
> >
> >UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects you can add new
>VB
> >
> >objects and start coding in VB.Net. The other great advantage is that
> >you
> >can connect directly to the SQL server and the performance is much much
> >better.
> >
> >This way is limited by the objects that Epicor provide but in our case
> >is
> >enough to create new screens that can access to any existing and new
> >tables
> >and is patch-proof! In fact we use our own DB to store all new objects
> >that
> >are link the MfgSys80 db.
> >
> >For new reports we created a Crystal viewer (in VB.Net) outside Vantage
> >and
> >we just call it and we send as parameters the report we want to run and
> >the
> >parameters need it for the report. This is also is much faster than
> >Vantage
> >reports but do not have the schedule capability.
> >
> >All depend on what you want to do, if you can use only customization, I
> >recommend that.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jose Ferrer
> >
> > >From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
><mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
> > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> > >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:03:30 -0400
> > >
> > >So it sounds like just having Visual Studio .Net is not enough to
> > >actually extend Vantage...
> > >
> > >Darn...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Joe Rojas
> > >
> > >IT Manager
> > >
> > >TNCO, Inc.
> > >
> > >781-447-6661 x7506
> > >
> > >jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
><mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >
> > >From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> >Behalf
> > >Of Michael McWilliams
> > >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:46 AM
> > >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> ><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
> > >Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
> > >We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
> > >tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
> > >with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual Studio.net
> > >Here is the list
> > >Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
> > >and creating progress .p code
> > >Here is a breif overview:
> > >Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose progress
> > >code as C# projects.
> > >
> > >UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
> > >communicatgion to the matching business objects.
> > >
> > >BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
> > >from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
> > >Interface Form.
> > >Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some to
> > >do step info.
> > >
> > >Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects
> > >
> > >Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
> > >correct HTM help Page
> > >
> > >WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
> > >services.
> > >
> > >C# client source code.
> > >
> > >Not included, they say are required
> > >VS.net
> > >Infragistics NetAdvantage
> > >Visual Sourcesafe
> > >OpenEdgeStudio
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
> > > >
> > > > What does it come with?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Joe Rojas
> > > >
> > > > IT Manager
> > > >
> > > > TNCO, Inc.
> > > >
> > > > 781-447-6661 x7506
> > > >
> > > > jrojas@...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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I got it to work Jose!

I was selecting the wrong dll.

I picked the Epicor.Mfg.AD. one instead of the Epicor.Mfg.UI. dll.



Thanks for you help!



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jose Ferrer
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 7:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK



Hi

Nope you do not need SDK to add and customize those screens

when you created the menu option did you check in the program fileds
that
was only "Epicor.Mfg.UI.UD05Entry.dll" (or the table number you want)
sometimes the system adds the path and it should not have it.

Just try by adding the menu option, exit vantage and test it without
customizations.

In Vantage help, look for "User Defined Tables" you will find more
information and details about this

If not work let us know

Regards,
JF

>From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:42:31 -0400
>
>Sounds pretty cool Jose.
>
>Do you need the SDK to do this?
>
>
>
>I followed your instructions and I get an error message that says:
>
>Error Detail
>
>============
>
>Cannot access this menu item: Extention Test
>
>
>
>
>
>Inner Exception
>
>===============
>
>Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
>
>
>
>Inner Stack Trace
>
>=================
>
> at Epicor.Mfg.UI.Startup.launchUIApp(MenuRow menuRow)
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe Rojas
>
>IT Manager
>
>TNCO, Inc.
>
>781-447-6661 x7506
>
>jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
>Of Jose Ferrer
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:37 PM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
>
>Hi
>
>In Vantage there are 20 user tables named UD01 - UD20 (single table)
and
>
>like 10 (UD100) with parent-child capability that you can use to store
>what
>ever you need.
>
>For example in UD01 we have the ZIP code information that we use to
auto
>
>populate city, state, county and some extra data in other screens by
>just
>typing the ZIP code.
>
>In order to use them just create a menu option and use program
>"Epicor.Mfg.AD.UDxx.dll". There is one dll per table.
>
>Once you add the menu option you can customize the screen and add all
>the VB
>code you want. Using just one dll (for example Epicor.Mfg.AD.UD20.dll)
>you
>can have as many different screens as you want. (just create another
>menu
>option with same dll and assign the desire customization)
>
>So, you can have multiple screens in Vantage with the same feel and
look
>and
>security too.
>
>Regards,
>Jose Ferrer
>
> >From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
<mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
> >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:59:34 -0400
> >
> >Thanks for the insight Jose!
> >
> >
> >
> >"If you take an UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects
> >you can add new VB objects and start coding in VB.Net."
> >
> >
> >
> >Could you expand on this...I didn't follow what you meant.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Joe Rojas
> >
> >IT Manager
> >
> >TNCO, Inc.
> >
> >781-447-6661 x7506
> >
> >jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
<mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
>Behalf
> >Of Jose Ferrer
> >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:38 PM
> >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >
> >
> >
> >Hello
> >
> >We purchased the SDK (we are on 808G and SQL DB) and we had the
>training
> >for
> >the tools, after that we know what not to use. The steps you need to
do
> >to
> >create a simple form are too complicated. Also for every new patch
you
> >need
> >to do several steps to update all folders with the code and
re-compile
> >the
> >modifications.
> >
> >Also you need to be careful if you modify an existing form because
>after
> >a
> >new patch implemented you need to re-apply the changes to the form
> >
> >The other big inconvenience is with the regular SDK you do not have
> >access
> >to the server code you only get the code for the client (just
>interface)
> >all
> >the business code resides in the server.
> >
> >If you are thinking to expand Vantage with new tables, this is not
> >included;
> >basically the code is to add new screens and reports to the existing
> >tables.
> >You need to modify the db schema to add new db objects.
> >
> >What we are doing is using the customizations and VB.net. If you take
>an
> >
> >UDxx.dll and make not visible all the default objects you can add new
>VB
> >
> >objects and start coding in VB.Net. The other great advantage is that
> >you
> >can connect directly to the SQL server and the performance is much
much
> >better.
> >
> >This way is limited by the objects that Epicor provide but in our
case
> >is
> >enough to create new screens that can access to any existing and new
> >tables
> >and is patch-proof! In fact we use our own DB to store all new
objects
> >that
> >are link the MfgSys80 db.
> >
> >For new reports we created a Crystal viewer (in VB.Net) outside
Vantage
> >and
> >we just call it and we send as parameters the report we want to run
and
> >the
> >parameters need it for the report. This is also is much faster than
> >Vantage
> >reports but do not have the schedule capability.
> >
> >All depend on what you want to do, if you can use only customization,
I
> >recommend that.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jose Ferrer
> >
> > >From: "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...
<mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
><mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> >
> > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> > >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:03:30 -0400
> > >
> > >So it sounds like just having Visual Studio .Net is not enough to
> > >actually extend Vantage...
> > >
> > >Darn...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Joe Rojas
> > >
> > >IT Manager
> > >
> > >TNCO, Inc.
> > >
> > >781-447-6661 x7506
> > >
> > >jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
<mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
><mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >
> > >From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> >Behalf
> > >Of Michael McWilliams
> > >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:46 AM
> > >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> ><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
> > >Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
> > >We have the SDK. There is a document on EpicWeb that will show the
> > >tools and talk about the SDK. You also get client source code along
> > >with the adapter and code tools. Does not come with Visual
Studio.net
> > >Here is the list
> > >Business Object design tool- used for datasets & schema generation
> > >and creating progress .p code
> > >Here is a breif overview:
> > >Custom Proxy Gen- Updates the .net proxy interface to expose
progress
> > >code as C# projects.
> > >
> > >UI Adaptor Simmer- Used to creat C# Adaptors that are used for all
> > >communicatgion to the matching business objects.
> > >
> > >BL Tester- Used to verify functionality of the business objects
> > >from .net client evironment in isolation from any final User
> > >Interface Form.
> > >Teplate UI forms- Helps with building A base UI form. And has some
to
> > >do step info.
> > >
> > >Code Cop- VS plugin used for auto-correction of UI projects
> > >
> > >Help Link Editor. Create links between UI forms and panels and the
> > >correct HTM help Page
> > >
> > >WS-Studio WS studio exposed the Vantage business objects as web
> > >services.
> > >
> > >C# client source code.
> > >
> > >Not included, they say are required
> > >VS.net
> > >Infragistics NetAdvantage
> > >Visual Sourcesafe
> > >OpenEdgeStudio
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone purchased the SDK for Vantage?
> > > >
> > > > What does it come with?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Joe Rojas
> > > >
> > > > IT Manager
> > > >
> > > > TNCO, Inc.
> > > >
> > > > 781-447-6661 x7506
> > > >
> > > > jrojas@...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in head first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...

Brenda



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My condolences.... is all I can say I've used the SDK... its not made for
human consumption.


*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
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On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in head
> first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
>
> Brenda
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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14
What will you be using the SDK for? As with any new tool there is a learning curve so while it may be the ideal tool for some things, is the time to learn it worth the pay off? Sometimes a less than ideal tool is OK based on the ROI of each.

Unless you need a new business object or new tables most items can be solved using embedded customization. If you just need a new screen you can take a UD table entry screen and hide all of its controls and use it as a blank canvas. You then add new controls, events and hookup calls to any methods you need. Unless you want to there is no interaction with the underlying UD table.

Jim Kinneman
Encompass Solutions, Inc

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in head first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
>
> Brenda
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
15
AWESOME

Brenda

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:05 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: Re: [Vantage] SDK

My condolences.... is all I can say I've used the SDK... its not made for human consumption.


*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
*T: 904.469.1524 mobile
E: jose@...
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<http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
<http://www.usdoingstuff.com>

*Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in
> head first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
>
> Brenda
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Possibly Both. Just can't get to some of the things I want to customize so was going to look down another path to see if I get any ideas.

Brenda

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jckinneman
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:21 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK



What will you be using the SDK for? As with any new tool there is a learning curve so while it may be the ideal tool for some things, is the time to learn it worth the pay off? Sometimes a less than ideal tool is OK based on the ROI of each.

Unless you need a new business object or new tables most items can be solved using embedded customization. If you just need a new screen you can take a UD table entry screen and hide all of its controls and use it as a blank canvas. You then add new controls, events and hookup calls to any methods you need. Unless you want to there is no interaction with the underlying UD table.

Jim Kinneman
Encompass Solutions, Inc

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, brenda mohr <brenda@...<mailto:brenda@...>> wrote:
>
> Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in head first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
>
> Brenda
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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I've so far never ran into anything I can't do with the standard
customization, BPM tools


*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
*T: 904.469.1524 mobile
E: jose@...
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:59 AM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Possibly Both. Just can't get to some of the things I want to customize so
> was going to look down another path to see if I get any ideas.
>
> Brenda
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of jckinneman
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:21 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
> What will you be using the SDK for? As with any new tool there is a
> learning curve so while it may be the ideal tool for some things, is the
> time to learn it worth the pay off? Sometimes a less than ideal tool is OK
> based on the ROI of each.
>
> Unless you need a new business object or new tables most items can be
> solved using embedded customization. If you just need a new screen you can
> take a UD table entry screen and hide all of its controls and use it as a
> blank canvas. You then add new controls, events and hookup calls to any
> methods you need. Unless you want to there is no interaction with the
> underlying UD table.
>
> Jim Kinneman
> Encompass Solutions, Inc
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, brenda
> mohr <brenda@...<mailto:brenda@...>> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in head
> first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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My biggest headache right now is: I have Global Scheduling set to run from a Process Set. If I use the dynamic date set, I can get it to run schedule startdate tomorrow at 11:59PM, but I want it to run w/ a date of tomorrow plus one. Can't get to the BO as it is actually a procedure. I customized the form, but duh the form doesn't trigger, so my dates don't change. I can't find where to add to the dynamic list to add my own either.

Brenda


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:06 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: SDK

I've so far never ran into anything I can't do with the standard customization, BPM tools


*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
*T: 904.469.1524 mobile
E: jose@...
http://www.josecgomez.com
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<http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:59 AM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Possibly Both. Just can't get to some of the things I want to
> customize so was going to look down another path to see if I get any ideas.
>
> Brenda
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of jckinneman
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:21 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
>
> What will you be using the SDK for? As with any new tool there is a
> learning curve so while it may be the ideal tool for some things, is
> the time to learn it worth the pay off? Sometimes a less than ideal
> tool is OK based on the ROI of each.
>
> Unless you need a new business object or new tables most items can be
> solved using embedded customization. If you just need a new screen you
> can take a UD table entry screen and hide all of its controls and use
> it as a blank canvas. You then add new controls, events and hookup
> calls to any methods you need. Unless you want to there is no
> interaction with the underlying UD table.
>
> Jim Kinneman
> Encompass Solutions, Inc
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> brenda mohr <brenda@...<mailto:brenda@...>> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in
> > head
> first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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I don't think the SDK is going to help you with that.


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*
*
*
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:13 AM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> My biggest headache right now is: I have Global Scheduling set to run from
> a Process Set. If I use the dynamic date set, I can get it to run schedule
> startdate tomorrow at 11:59PM, but I want it to run w/ a date of tomorrow
> plus one. Can't get to the BO as it is actually a procedure. I customized
> the form, but duh the form doesn't trigger, so my dates don't change. I
> can't find where to add to the dynamic list to add my own either.
>
> Brenda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jose Gomez
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:06 AM
> To: Vantage
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
> I've so far never ran into anything I can't do with the standard
> customization, BPM tools
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@...
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <http://www.facebook.com/josegomez
> >
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:59 AM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Possibly Both. Just can't get to some of the things I want to
> > customize so was going to look down another path to see if I get any
> ideas.
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of jckinneman
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:21 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >
> >
> > What will you be using the SDK for? As with any new tool there is a
> > learning curve so while it may be the ideal tool for some things, is
> > the time to learn it worth the pay off? Sometimes a less than ideal
> > tool is OK based on the ROI of each.
> >
> > Unless you need a new business object or new tables most items can be
> > solved using embedded customization. If you just need a new screen you
> > can take a UD table entry screen and hide all of its controls and use
> > it as a blank canvas. You then add new controls, events and hookup
> > calls to any methods you need. Unless you want to there is no
> > interaction with the underlying UD table.
> >
> > Jim Kinneman
> > Encompass Solutions, Inc
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > brenda mohr <brenda@...<mailto:brenda@...>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump in
> > > head
> > first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
> > >
> > > Brenda
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >
> >
>
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Unfortunately nothing else is either at the moment. But if I dig in enough places, it will come to me :D

Brenda J. Mohr
Humtown Products
44708 Columbiana-Waterford Rd.
P.O. Box 367
Columbiana, Oh 44408

Phone:Â 330 482-5555


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:33 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: SDK

I don't think the SDK is going to help you with that.


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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:13 AM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> My biggest headache right now is: I have Global Scheduling set to run
> from a Process Set. If I use the dynamic date set, I can get it to run
> schedule startdate tomorrow at 11:59PM, but I want it to run w/ a date
> of tomorrow plus one. Can't get to the BO as it is actually a
> procedure. I customized the form, but duh the form doesn't trigger, so
> my dates don't change. I can't find where to add to the dynamic list to add my own either.
>
> Brenda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jose Gomez
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:06 AM
> To: Vantage
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: SDK
>
> I've so far never ran into anything I can't do with the standard
> customization, BPM tools
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
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> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
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> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:59 AM, brenda mohr <brenda@...> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Possibly Both. Just can't get to some of the things I want to
> > customize so was going to look down another path to see if I get any
> ideas.
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of jckinneman
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:21 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: SDK
> >
> >
> > What will you be using the SDK for? As with any new tool there is a
> > learning curve so while it may be the ideal tool for some things, is
> > the time to learn it worth the pay off? Sometimes a less than ideal
> > tool is OK based on the ROI of each.
> >
> > Unless you need a new business object or new tables most items can
> > be solved using embedded customization. If you just need a new
> > screen you can take a UD table entry screen and hide all of its
> > controls and use it as a blank canvas. You then add new controls,
> > events and hookup calls to any methods you need. Unless you want to
> > there is no interaction with the underlying UD table.
> >
> > Jim Kinneman
> > Encompass Solutions, Inc
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > brenda mohr <brenda@...<mailto:brenda@...>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone actively using the SDK? I am frustrated and about to jump
> > > in head
> > first, so I thought a mentor might be a good idea...
> > >
> > > Brenda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
> )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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