Setup Backup Vantage Server

If you have some money left in your budget I would recommend Acronis
True Image. Acronis takes exact image of the server and allows you to
restore it on almost any other machine without issues.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "HUSSAIN ALI [NSI]" <hussain.ali@...>
wrote:
>
> I'm running Vantage 6.10.540 09/11/06
>
> Here's what I want to do.
>
> I want to setup a backup vantage server ready to go with all the
same settings as my current server.
>
> So incase my primary server goes down I can restore the latest
database to the backup server and & simply remap the V & W Network
drive through group policy and be up & running in a matter of minutes.
>
> Has any one used this approach before or do you you have any better
suggestion please share those as well.
>
> I wouldn't mind ghosting the image of the current sever in a virtual
or Physical server environment but for rite now I want to stay away
from ghosting as an option.
>
>
> Thanks
> Hussain Ali
> IT Manager
> National Signs Ltd.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
I'm running Vantage 6.10.540 09/11/06

Here's what I want to do.

I want to setup a backup vantage server ready to go with all the same settings as my current server.

So incase my primary server goes down I can restore the latest database to the backup server and & simply remap the V & W Network drive through group policy and be up & running in a matter of minutes.

Has any one used this approach before or do you you have any better suggestion please share those as well.

I wouldn't mind ghosting the image of the current sever in a virtual or Physical server environment but for rite now I want to stay away from ghosting as an option.


Thanks
Hussain Ali
IT Manager
National Signs Ltd.




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Hussain,
This can work, but I would change the implementation slightly from your
suggestion.
Set up the server, have it ready to go with Vantage installed. The only
change I would make is when you bring the backup server online, to change
it's IP address and network name to match the existing server. That way,
there is no remap of drives needed on the client, and you can make all
changes at the server.
I have done this swap in the past (I was not prepared as you are trying for,
but I installed Vantage on a laptop, restored the DB, Changed the name and
IP to the same as the server that went down and rebooted. Presto changeo,
the clients could log into the laptop as if it were the server. I was
working on a very limited limp along strategy at the time so I can't tell
you if it would work with more than a few clients served from a laptop with
WinXP (not server) installed. With a regular server with a server OS, it
will be a straight swap.
The other thing to remember is to keep the backup server up to the same
patch levels as your live server.
Best of luck.
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
HUSSAIN ALI [NSI]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server


I'm running Vantage 6.10.540 09/11/06

Here's what I want to do.

I want to setup a backup vantage server ready to go with all the same
settings as my current server.

So incase my primary server goes down I can restore the latest database to
the backup server and & simply remap the V & W Network drive through group
policy and be up & running in a matter of minutes.

Has any one used this approach before or do you you have any better
suggestion please share those as well.

I wouldn't mind ghosting the image of the current sever in a virtual or
Physical server environment but for rite now I want to stay away from
ghosting as an option.

Thanks
Hussain Ali
IT Manager
National Signs Ltd.

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I'll go one step further and suggest using DNS aliases instead of
changing server-names and IP addresses. I posted earlier today about
this very topic - see my post in the "RE: [Vantage] Re: [6.1] New
Server...Extremely Slow Clients" topic from around 8:58am (CST) for more
detail about using DNS aliases, or we can continue discussing in this
thread of interested...

--Ari
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ari Footlik
IT Manager - R. A. Zweig


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Aaron Hoyt
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:42 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server



Hussain,
This can work, but I would change the implementation slightly from your
suggestion.
Set up the server, have it ready to go with Vantage installed. The only
change I would make is when you bring the backup server online, to
change
it's IP address and network name to match the existing server. That way,
there is no remap of drives needed on the client, and you can make all
changes at the server.
I have done this swap in the past (I was not prepared as you are trying
for,
but I installed Vantage on a laptop, restored the DB, Changed the name
and
IP to the same as the server that went down and rebooted. Presto
changeo,
the clients could log into the laptop as if it were the server. I was
working on a very limited limp along strategy at the time so I can't
tell
you if it would work with more than a few clients served from a laptop
with
WinXP (not server) installed. With a regular server with a server OS, it
will be a straight swap.
The other thing to remember is to keep the backup server up to the same
patch levels as your live server.
Best of luck.
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of
HUSSAIN ALI [NSI]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server

I'm running Vantage 6.10.540 09/11/06

Here's what I want to do.

I want to setup a backup vantage server ready to go with all the same
settings as my current server.

So incase my primary server goes down I can restore the latest database
to
the backup server and & simply remap the V & W Network drive through
group
policy and be up & running in a matter of minutes.

Has any one used this approach before or do you you have any better
suggestion please share those as well.

I wouldn't mind ghosting the image of the current sever in a virtual or
Physical server environment but for rite now I want to stay away from
ghosting as an option.

Thanks
Hussain Ali
IT Manager
National Signs Ltd.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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I think DNS Alias is definitely a good idea rather than Server Ip
and name because this server will be used for other purposes as well
& changing the name & ip will affect those operations as well

Also I have never setup a Vantage Server before. Does it just involve
running the setups from the CD and updating to our current patch or
is there any other stuff that we need to move from the primary server
to backup server to get the same working environment as a primary
server.

Thanks
Hussain

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ari Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> I'll go one step further and suggest using DNS aliases instead of
> changing server-names and IP addresses. I posted earlier today
about
> this very topic - see my post in the "RE: [Vantage] Re: [6.1] New
> Server...Extremely Slow Clients" topic from around 8:58am (CST) for
more
> detail about using DNS aliases, or we can continue discussing in
this
> thread of interested...
>
> --Ari
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Ari Footlik
> IT Manager - R. A. Zweig
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Aaron Hoyt
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:42 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server
>
>
>
> Hussain,
> This can work, but I would change the implementation slightly from
your
> suggestion.
> Set up the server, have it ready to go with Vantage installed. The
only
> change I would make is when you bring the backup server online, to
> change
> it's IP address and network name to match the existing server. That
way,
> there is no remap of drives needed on the client, and you can make
all
> changes at the server.
> I have done this swap in the past (I was not prepared as you are
trying
> for,
> but I installed Vantage on a laptop, restored the DB, Changed the
name
> and
> IP to the same as the server that went down and rebooted. Presto
> changeo,
> the clients could log into the laptop as if it were the server. I
was
> working on a very limited limp along strategy at the time so I can't
> tell
> you if it would work with more than a few clients served from a
laptop
> with
> WinXP (not server) installed. With a regular server with a server
OS, it
> will be a straight swap.
> The other thing to remember is to keep the backup server up to the
same
> patch levels as your live server.
> Best of luck.
> Aaron Hoyt
> Vantage Plastics
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf Of
> HUSSAIN ALI [NSI]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server
>
> I'm running Vantage 6.10.540 09/11/06
>
> Here's what I want to do.
>
> I want to setup a backup vantage server ready to go with all the
same
> settings as my current server.
>
> So incase my primary server goes down I can restore the latest
database
> to
> the backup server and & simply remap the V & W Network drive through
> group
> policy and be up & running in a matter of minutes.
>
> Has any one used this approach before or do you you have any better
> suggestion please share those as well.
>
> I wouldn't mind ghosting the image of the current sever in a
virtual or
> Physical server environment but for rite now I want to stay away
from
> ghosting as an option.
>
> Thanks
> Hussain Ali
> IT Manager
> National Signs Ltd.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
DNS Alias sounds great, I will have to investigate. I have not had
opportunity to play with that yet.


Download the instruction from Epic web.
That being said, the short version for 6.1 is...

Create and Share the Epicor folder.
Install Progress 9.1d from the disk.
Patch to Progress 9.1dX (the same patch level as your server, download from
Epic Web, execute the file)
Install MFG software from the disk.
Apply the HotFix.
Apply the MFG patch (same as server patch, download from Epic Web, execute
file).
Install MFG Client.
Restore your db.
Reboot.


Anyone with a better memory, please correct.
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
hussain555
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Setup Backup Vantage Server


I think DNS Alias is definitely a good idea rather than Server Ip
and name because this server will be used for other purposes as well
& changing the name & ip will affect those operations as well

Also I have never setup a Vantage Server before. Does it just involve
running the setups from the CD and updating to our current patch or
is there any other stuff that we need to move from the primary server
to backup server to get the same working environment as a primary
server.

Thanks
Hussain

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ari Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> I'll go one step further and suggest using DNS aliases instead of
> changing server-names and IP addresses. I posted earlier today
about
> this very topic - see my post in the "RE: [Vantage] Re: [6.1] New
> Server...Extremely Slow Clients" topic from around 8:58am (CST) for
more
> detail about using DNS aliases, or we can continue discussing in
this
> thread of interested...
>
> --Ari
> ----------------------------------------------------------
----
> Ari Footlik
> IT Manager - R. A. Zweig
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Aaron Hoyt
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:42 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server
>
>
>
> Hussain,
> This can work, but I would change the implementation slightly from
your
> suggestion.
> Set up the server, have it ready to go with Vantage installed. The
only
> change I would make is when you bring the backup server online, to
> change
> it's IP address and network name to match the existing server. That
way,
> there is no remap of drives needed on the client, and you can make
all
> changes at the server.
> I have done this swap in the past (I was not prepared as you are
trying
> for,
> but I installed Vantage on a laptop, restored the DB, Changed the
name
> and
> IP to the same as the server that went down and rebooted. Presto
> changeo,
> the clients could log into the laptop as if it were the server. I
was
> working on a very limited limp along strategy at the time so I can't
> tell
> you if it would work with more than a few clients served from a
laptop
> with
> WinXP (not server) installed. With a regular server with a server
OS, it
> will be a straight swap.
> The other thing to remember is to keep the backup server up to the
same
> patch levels as your live server.
> Best of luck.
> Aaron Hoyt
> Vantage Plastics
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf Of
> HUSSAIN ALI [NSI]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server
>
> I'm running Vantage 6.10.540 09/11/06
>
> Here's what I want to do.
>
> I want to setup a backup vantage server ready to go with all the
same
> settings as my current server.
>
> So incase my primary server goes down I can restore the latest
database
> to
> the backup server and & simply remap the V & W Network drive through
> group
> policy and be up & running in a matter of minutes.
>
> Has any one used this approach before or do you you have any better
> suggestion please share those as well.
>
> I wouldn't mind ghosting the image of the current sever in a
virtual or
> Physical server environment but for rite now I want to stay away
from
> ghosting as an option.
>
> Thanks
> Hussain Ali
> IT Manager
> National Signs Ltd.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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I think you'll need to make copies of your custom reports folders, too,
if you have any...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ari Footlik
IT Manager - R. A. Zweig


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Aaron Hoyt
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Setup Backup Vantage Server



DNS Alias sounds great, I will have to investigate. I have not had
opportunity to play with that yet.

Download the instruction from Epic web.
That being said, the short version for 6.1 is...

Create and Share the Epicor folder.
Install Progress 9.1d from the disk.
Patch to Progress 9.1dX (the same patch level as your server, download
from
Epic Web, execute the file)
Install MFG software from the disk.
Apply the HotFix.
Apply the MFG patch (same as server patch, download from Epic Web,
execute
file).
Install MFG Client.
Restore your db.
Reboot.

Anyone with a better memory, please correct.
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of
hussain555
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Setup Backup Vantage Server

I think DNS Alias is definitely a good idea rather than Server Ip
and name because this server will be used for other purposes as well
& changing the name & ip will affect those operations as well

Also I have never setup a Vantage Server before. Does it just involve
running the setups from the CD and updating to our current patch or
is there any other stuff that we need to move from the primary server
to backup server to get the same working environment as a primary
server.

Thanks
Hussain

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> I'll go one step further and suggest using DNS aliases instead of
> changing server-names and IP addresses. I posted earlier today
about
> this very topic - see my post in the "RE: [Vantage] Re: [6.1] New
> Server...Extremely Slow Clients" topic from around 8:58am (CST) for
more
> detail about using DNS aliases, or we can continue discussing in
this
> thread of interested...
>
> --Ari
> ----------------------------------------------------------
----
> Ari Footlik
> IT Manager - R. A. Zweig
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Aaron Hoyt
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:42 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server
>
>
>
> Hussain,
> This can work, but I would change the implementation slightly from
your
> suggestion.
> Set up the server, have it ready to go with Vantage installed. The
only
> change I would make is when you bring the backup server online, to
> change
> it's IP address and network name to match the existing server. That
way,
> there is no remap of drives needed on the client, and you can make
all
> changes at the server.
> I have done this swap in the past (I was not prepared as you are
trying
> for,
> but I installed Vantage on a laptop, restored the DB, Changed the
name
> and
> IP to the same as the server that went down and rebooted. Presto
> changeo,
> the clients could log into the laptop as if it were the server. I
was
> working on a very limited limp along strategy at the time so I can't
> tell
> you if it would work with more than a few clients served from a
laptop
> with
> WinXP (not server) installed. With a regular server with a server
OS, it
> will be a straight swap.
> The other thing to remember is to keep the backup server up to the
same
> patch levels as your live server.
> Best of luck.
> Aaron Hoyt
> Vantage Plastics
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf Of
> HUSSAIN ALI [NSI]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Setup Backup Vantage Server
>
> I'm running Vantage 6.10.540 09/11/06
>
> Here's what I want to do.
>
> I want to setup a backup vantage server ready to go with all the
same
> settings as my current server.
>
> So incase my primary server goes down I can restore the latest
database
> to
> the backup server and & simply remap the V & W Network drive through
> group
> policy and be up & running in a matter of minutes.
>
> Has any one used this approach before or do you you have any better
> suggestion please share those as well.
>
> I wouldn't mind ghosting the image of the current sever in a
virtual or
> Physical server environment but for rite now I want to stay away
from
> ghosting as an option.
>
> Thanks
> Hussain Ali
> IT Manager
> National Signs Ltd.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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