Slow performance

John Hawk wrote:
> You should be able to copy 78 MB of data from the server to the XP station in less than 20 seconds.

I also use file copy times for a rough sanity check on network
throughput, but you're off by a lot there.

78MB should take 8 seconds (at nearly 10MB/sec) on 100Mb. On gigabit
ethernet I get 25 - 30MB/sec which should be about 3 seconds for 78MB.
I'd like to see some improvement on my Gb, but that's what I'm getting
now...

-Wayne
We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server is MS
2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 with
dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are all MS
Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least 1.0 GB
of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have done
everything I can think of including having the server settings
optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled and
all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight or
confirmation would be great. Thanks.
Is this a new network? Was it ever fast?


>>> "psfny" <psfny@...> 10/16/2007 3:10 PM >>>
We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server is MS
2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 with
dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are all MS
Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least 1.0 GB
of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have done
everything I can think of including having the server settings
optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled and
all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight or
confirmation would be great. Thanks.
Are you sure you do not have any old hubs that are 10/100, or any ports
that can be switched to 10/100?



If you have a dying port it can bring your network down....this is just
one idea.







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@...

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Hawk
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] slow performance



Is this a new network? Was it ever fast?

>>> "psfny" <psfny@... <mailto:psfny%40yahoo.com> > 10/16/2007
3:10 PM >>>
We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server is MS
2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 with
dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are all MS
Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least 1.0 GB
of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have done
everything I can think of including having the server settings
optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled and
all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight or
confirmation would be great. Thanks.





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this is an existing network, all other apps run fine. no transfer
issues whatsoever.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "John Hawk" <jhawk@...> wrote:
>
> Is this a new network? Was it ever fast?
>
>
> >>> "psfny" <psfny@...> 10/16/2007 3:10 PM >>>
> We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server
is MS
> 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950
with
> dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are
all MS
> Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least
1.0 GB
> of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
> desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
> experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have
done
> everything I can think of including having the server settings
> optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled
and
> all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight
or
> confirmation would be great. Thanks.
>
nope, everything is full gigabit. i checked all the ports on the
switches, i checked each server nic and each desktop nic.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> Are you sure you do not have any old hubs that are 10/100, or any
ports
> that can be switched to 10/100?
>
>
>
> If you have a dying port it can bring your network down....this is
just
> one idea.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@...
>
> P: 630-806-2000
>
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of John Hawk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:12 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] slow performance
>
>
>
> Is this a new network? Was it ever fast?
>
> >>> "psfny" <psfny@... <mailto:psfny%40yahoo.com> > 10/16/2007
> 3:10 PM >>>
> We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server is
MS
> 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950
with
> dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are all
MS
> Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least
1.0 GB
> of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
> desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
> experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have done
> everything I can think of including having the server settings
> optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled
and
> all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight
or
> confirmation would be great. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
When you say, "slow performance," what is actually performing slowly?
Launching Vantage? Or switching within menus/screens inside of Vantage?

You could put a traffic-sniffer (WireShark) on the network to see what
might be happening behind the scenes on the network when you launch or
use Vantage, and filter the logs by station-IP and/or port number.
Additionally, there are two useful programs: FileMon and RegMon, that
might help to see what's happening on the client/server when you launch
the program. If you take the data from all three and correlate it by
time/activity, you might get an idea as to where the bottle-neck is.

I've used WireShark (formerly Ethereal) to help me identify SQL database
problems in the past. Result: SQL virus! Would have never found it
without the sniffer showing me excessive traffic to/from the DB
server...

--Ari
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ari Footlik
IT Manager - R. A. Zweig


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of psfny
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: slow performance



nope, everything is full gigabit. i checked all the ports on the
switches, i checked each server nic and each desktop nic.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> Are you sure you do not have any old hubs that are 10/100, or any
ports
> that can be switched to 10/100?
>
>
>
> If you have a dying port it can bring your network down....this is
just
> one idea.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@...
>
> P: 630-806-2000
>
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of John Hawk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:12 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] slow performance
>
>
>
> Is this a new network? Was it ever fast?
>
> >>> "psfny" <psfny@... <mailto:psfny%40yahoo.com> > 10/16/2007
> 3:10 PM >>>
> We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server is
MS
> 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950
with
> dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are all
MS
> Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least
1.0 GB
> of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
> desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
> experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have done
> everything I can think of including having the server settings
> optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled
and
> all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight
or
> confirmation would be great. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We are running Vista on Progress and one of the major complaints that I get is how slow the application is. From what I am told, it has been a pretty general complaint of the system. Version 8.03.4xx changes the processing from the client to the server and is supposed to be alot quicker. I don't know how differently it runs on SQL but I do know that the speed has been a pretty wide nspread complaint

-----Original Message-----
From: psfny [mailto:psfny@...]
Sent: Tue 10/16/2007 5:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [Vantage] Re: slow performance



nope, everything is full gigabit. i checked all the ports on the
switches, i checked each server nic and each desktop nic.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> Are you sure you do not have any old hubs that are 10/100, or any
ports
> that can be switched to 10/100?
>
>
>
> If you have a dying port it can bring your network down....this is
just
> one idea.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@...
>
> P: 630-806-2000
>
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of John Hawk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:12 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] slow performance
>
>
>
> Is this a new network? Was it ever fast?
>
> >>> "psfny" <psfny@... <mailto:psfny%40yahoo.com> > 10/16/2007
> 3:10 PM >>>
> We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server is
MS
> 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950
with
> dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are all
MS
> Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least
1.0 GB
> of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
> desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
> experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have done
> everything I can think of including having the server settings
> optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled
and
> all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight
or
> confirmation would be great. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Does your server pass out ip addresses via DHCP and specify the server itself
as the DNS server to use for the XP stations?
What is the DNS for the XP stations? Should be your Windows 2003 server.
Use wireshark like the other person indicated.
Do you see any yellow or error lights on the switches?
Many times the duplex doesn't match.
What brand and model of switches?
I assume they are intelligent.
You can read the logs on most.
You should be able to copy 78 MB of data from the server to the XP station in less than 20 seconds.
If it says minutes, something is wrong.
Are the Workstations and the server on the same segment and VLAN?
Are they really on the same subnet?
Are the pings fine? <3ms?
A traceroute shows 1 hop to the server from the XP ?
If you run perfmon on the server, it isn't saturated on the lan or disks or CPU?

>>> "psfny" <psfny@...> 10/16/2007 3:10 PM >>>
We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My server is MS
2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 with
dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops are all MS
Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at least 1.0 GB
of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers, switches,
desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone else
experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I have done
everything I can think of including having the server settings
optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been disabled and
all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any insight or
confirmation would be great. Thanks.
I am testing Vantage 8.03.403b on real hardware.
Dual 2.8 GHz Xeon
4Gb Ram
Windows 2003 Server

Entire db in Ram, I am not impressed at all with the time required to
update a 74 line PO. perception is it is longer than 8.00.811 and is
born out in tracing execution times. Client app run on same server as
Vantage so no network issues involved.

.02

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Kersten MacLennan" <kmaclennan@...>
wrote:
>
> We are running Vista on Progress and one of the major complaints
that I get is how slow the application is. From what I am told, it
has been a pretty general complaint of the system. Version 8.03.4xx
changes the processing from the client to the server and is supposed
to be alot quicker. I don't know how differently it runs on SQL but I
do know that the speed has been a pretty wide nspread complaint
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: psfny [mailto:psfny@...]
> Sent: Tue 10/16/2007 5:49 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: slow performance
>
>
>
> nope, everything is full gigabit. i checked all the ports on
the
> switches, i checked each server nic and each desktop nic.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> , "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@> wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure you do not have any old hubs that are 10/100,
or any
> ports
> > that can be switched to 10/100?
> >
> >
> >
> > If you have a dying port it can bring your network
down....this is
> just
> > one idea.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Manasa Reddy
> >
> > manasa@
> >
> > P: 630-806-2000
> >
> > F: 630-806-2001
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of John Hawk
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:12 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] slow performance
> >
> >
> >
> > Is this a new network? Was it ever fast?
> >
> > >>> "psfny" <psfny@ <mailto:psfny%40yahoo.com> > 10/16/2007
> > 3:10 PM >>>
> > We are running Vantage 8.03.305I with MS SQL 2005 SP2. My
server is
> MS
> > 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition SP2 running on a Dell PowerEdge
2950
> with
> > dual 3.0 GHz Xeon processors and 8.0 GB of ram. My desktops
are all
> MS
> > Windows XP SP2 with 3.0 GHz Pentium D's and better with at
least
> 1.0 GB
> > of ram. My network is 1.0 Gbps throughout, servers,
switches,
> > desktops. This system is horribly slow at best. Is anyone
else
> > experiencing poor performance in a similar environment? I
have done
> > everything I can think of including having the server
settings
> > optimized for vantage. All software firewalls have been
disabled
> and
> > all anti-virus has the vantage client folder excluded. Any
insight
> or
> > confirmation would be great. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>