Some VB Form Questions

Thanks Thad. I guess I'll just keep this thing nice and simple then.

Troy
----- Original Message -----
From: Thad Jacobs
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


>I only want it to do this the first time.
>Is there a simple statement that can check this condition the first time?

vantagebasic does not support conditional statements to the best of my
knowledge.

You would have to launch a progress program from vantagebasic that checks
the status of the the VB form, and populates it if necessary. You don't need
provision to write programs that write to vantagebasic fields.

Example progress programs that interface with vantagebasic are found within
the vantage/vbp/test/ directory.

I have not as of yet used VB forms for anything other than simple fill-in
fields when we run out of user fields.

Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


OK. Thanks to a bunch of help... I've skipped questions 1, 3, and 4 as
being either unnecessary or over my head.

On Question #2, I modified Sarah's suggestion by using the "set" statement
"set DATE-FIELD_1.scrvalue={OrderRel.NeedByDate.scrvalue}" and that works.

Now for Part B to Question #2. If I have previously entered a date in my
Date01 field, then I DON'T want the default NeedByDate to update the Date01
field when I access my VB Form. I only want it to do this the first time.
Is there a simple statement that can check this condition the first time?

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Funte
To: Vantage
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order
Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a
different name (ie. ActualShipDate).
2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need By Date" when you click on
the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the
button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was
toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the
button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen.
4. If I create a VB form on a test database, can I then copy it to the
live database rather than have to recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a different name (ie. ActualShipDate).
2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need By Date" when you click on the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen.
4. If I create a VB form on a test database, can I then copy it to the live database rather than have to recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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You can use the "External Name" field in the VB form tool.

In 3.0 they were not available? If you use the External Name in VB forms
and id it with the name you want (limited to 8 characters) then generate a
given form on your HD then you can open Crystal Reports to modify the form.
You will have to verify the database (manually), once you do, the 8
character length field name will be passed to the Crystal report form to
which you are working with. NOTE: the field name will be prefixed with
letter from the table you are working with (e.g. Job Header = 'JH' prefix).

Enjoy


Rick & Mike
V-S Industries



-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Vantage
Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order
Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a different
name (ie. ActualShipDate). 2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need
By Date" when you click on the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the
button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was
toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the
button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen. 4. If I create a VB form on a
test database, can I then copy it to the live database rather than have to
recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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You can also set parameter fields in crystal that will prompt the user for
addt'l info while in the print screen in Vantage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joslin, Rick [mailto:rick.joslin@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:03 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


You can use the "External Name" field in the VB form tool.

In 3.0 they were not available? If you use the External Name in VB forms
and id it with the name you want (limited to 8 characters) then generate a
given form on your HD then you can open Crystal Reports to modify the form.
You will have to verify the database (manually), once you do, the 8
character length field name will be passed to the Crystal report form to
which you are working with. NOTE: the field name will be prefixed with
letter from the table you are working with (e.g. Job Header = 'JH' prefix).

Enjoy


Rick & Mike
V-S Industries



-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Vantage
Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order
Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a different
name (ie. ActualShipDate). 2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need
By Date" when you click on the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the
button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was
toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the
button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen. 4. If I create a VB form on a
test database, can I then copy it to the live database rather than have to
recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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1. "Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a
different name (ie. ActualShipDate). "

Yes, you can rename it, no, you cannot name it "ActualShipDate". From within
the VBForms Form Designer window, double-click the field you want to rename.
Next to where it says 'External Name' Type the name you want, something
like: ActShip. There is an 8-character limit. Now, when you view this in
crystal, you will see the external name with a prefix representing the table
it came from. (ex., if this filed was added in the OrderRel VB form, it
would appear in crystal as ORActShip) The prefix appears at the start of
the External Name field in gray. In other applications, like report
builder, you will NOT see the external Name. Note: I always make the
ExternalName, Label and Control Name the same, I think it's cleaner.


2. "Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need By Date" when you click on
the VB form button for the release? If so, how would I go about doing
that?"

This can be done, try the following:
-From within the VBForms Form Designer window, double-click somewhere on the
grayspace on the form (not a specific field).
-Next to the 'Commands' filed, set it to 'On Entry'.
-In the white space, enter the following:
set actship.scrvalue = {OrderRel.NeedByDate.scrvalue}

Where actship is the control name of the field you want to fill on the VB
Form.


3. "Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the
button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was
toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the
button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen."

-You can delete all the information on it and even 'recycle' the fields so
that data is no longer stored, however, once you have even used a VBForm,
the VBForm button will be active on that form (although when you open it, it
will be blank).


4. "If I create a VB form on a test database, can I then copy it to the live
database rather than have to recreate it from scratch again?"

-As far as I know, NO.

HTH,

Sarah



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Regarding Question 4:

Vantagebasic forms stored within database tables. These tables could be
exported, but importing them would require custom programming or 4GL code
compiled under provision.

You have to make sure when creating a series of vantagebasic fields a given
module in two seperate vantage databases, that you create the fields in the
same order, because the order in which you place the fields on the screen
determines the name of the field. (number01, number02, ....)

Thaddeus



-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:24 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order
Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a different
name (ie. ActualShipDate).
2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need By Date" when you click on
the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the
button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was
toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the
button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen.
4. If I create a VB form on a test database, can I then copy it to the live
database rather than have to recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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Regarding Question 3..

If I remember correctly, a couple of months ago I found that deleting
the VBFormDtl and VBFormHeader tables will disable the associated
button. When you re-add widgets to the form, they will be recreated
and the button enabled.

Of course, all the concerns and caveats discussed in the past about
modifying the Vantage Db apply here.

Lonnie

--- In vantage@y..., Thad Jacobs <tjacobs@k...> wrote:
> Regarding Question 4:
>
> Vantagebasic forms stored within database tables. These tables
could be
> exported, but importing them would require custom programming or
4GL code
> compiled under provision.
>
> You have to make sure when creating a series of vantagebasic fields
a given
> module in two seperate vantage databases, that you create the
fields in the
> same order, because the order in which you place the fields on the
screen
> determines the name of the field. (number01, number02, ....)
>
> Thaddeus
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:24 AM
> To: Vantage
> Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions
>
>
> Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the
Order
> Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional
questions...
>
> 1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a
different
> name (ie. ActualShipDate).
> 2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need By Date" when you
click on
> the VB form button for the release?
> If so, how would I go about doing that?
> 3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it
(so the
> button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user).
I was
> toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or
have the
> button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen.
> 4. If I create a VB form on a test database, can I then copy it to
the live
> database rather than have to recreate it from scratch again?
>
> Thanks for any and all help.
>
> Troy Funte
> Liberty Electronics
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Builder and
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Anyone,
I just added the "External Name" to the VB form, did a "verify database" in Crystal, saved and exited Crystal, restarted... Still no OrderRel.ORActShip name shows up. It's still OrderRel.Date01. By the way, this is not a .DBF Vantage report, it is a 'from scratch' Crystal report using ODBC.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Joslin, Rick
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


You can use the "External Name" field in the VB form tool.

In 3.0 they were not available? If you use the External Name in VB forms
and id it with the name you want (limited to 8 characters) then generate a
given form on your HD then you can open Crystal Reports to modify the form.
You will have to verify the database (manually), once you do, the 8
character length field name will be passed to the Crystal report form to
which you are working with. NOTE: the field name will be prefixed with
letter from the table you are working with (e.g. Job Header = 'JH' prefix).

Enjoy


Rick & Mike
V-S Industries



-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Vantage
Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order
Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a different
name (ie. ActualShipDate). 2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need
By Date" when you click on the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the
button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was
toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the
button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen. 4. If I create a VB form on a
test database, can I then copy it to the live database rather than have to
recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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I believe the 'External name' will only work if using the dbf tables, where
vantage knows is 'exporting' the data. When using odbc with access, or even
report builder, the external name is not recognized, so it makes sense that
it won't be in crystal either, via ODBC. You'll have to determine which
field it is and add use it that way.



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OK. Thanks to a bunch of help... I've skipped questions 1, 3, and 4 as being either unnecessary or over my head.

On Question #2, I modified Sarah's suggestion by using the "set" statement "set DATE-FIELD_1.scrvalue={OrderRel.NeedByDate.scrvalue}" and that works.

Now for Part B to Question #2. If I have previously entered a date in my Date01 field, then I DON'T want the default NeedByDate to update the Date01 field when I access my VB Form. I only want it to do this the first time. Is there a simple statement that can check this condition the first time?

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Funte
To: Vantage
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a different name (ie. ActualShipDate).
2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need By Date" when you click on the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen.
4. If I create a VB form on a test database, can I then copy it to the live database rather than have to recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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>I only want it to do this the first time.
>Is there a simple statement that can check this condition the first time?

vantagebasic does not support conditional statements to the best of my
knowledge.

You would have to launch a progress program from vantagebasic that checks
the status of the the VB form, and populates it if necessary. You don't need
provision to write programs that write to vantagebasic fields.

Example progress programs that interface with vantagebasic are found within
the vantage/vbp/test/ directory.

I have not as of yet used VB forms for anything other than simple fill-in
fields when we run out of user fields.

Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


OK. Thanks to a bunch of help... I've skipped questions 1, 3, and 4 as
being either unnecessary or over my head.

On Question #2, I modified Sarah's suggestion by using the "set" statement
"set DATE-FIELD_1.scrvalue={OrderRel.NeedByDate.scrvalue}" and that works.

Now for Part B to Question #2. If I have previously entered a date in my
Date01 field, then I DON'T want the default NeedByDate to update the Date01
field when I access my VB Form. I only want it to do this the first time.
Is there a simple statement that can check this condition the first time?

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Funte
To: Vantage
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Some VB Form Questions


Newby on VB forms here. I want to add a simple date field for the Order
Release. I've got that working. Here are my additional questions...

1. Can the OrderRel.Date01 be renamed so that Crystal sees it by a
different name (ie. ActualShipDate).
2. Can you have the Date01 default to the "Need By Date" when you click on
the VB form button for the release?
If so, how would I go about doing that?
3. Is there a way to delete a VB form after you no longer need it (so the
button does not show up on the wrong screen and confuse the user). I was
toying with the OrderHed VB form and no longer want to use it or have the
button highlighted on the Sales Order Screen.
4. If I create a VB form on a test database, can I then copy it to the
live database rather than have to recreate it from scratch again?

Thanks for any and all help.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



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