Structuring Engineering MOMs

Thanks Dave for suggestion. As a matter of fact that is one of the
possibilities under considerations. This way we keep the structure
and add minimal extra work.

Hoping to hear from anyone else with a different proven approach
before making a final decision. It would be much more difficult to
change after going live.

Bahram


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@...> wrote:
>
> Another option would be to create a new "Manufactured" part number
> for the phantom item when it is manufactured/sold on its own. The
> BOM for the new part will consist only of the phantom. This will
> allow you to continue using the phantoms as you are now, and also
> make and sell them when needed.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie Smith" <CSmith@> wrote:
> >
> > Manufacture the subcomponents and run them through inventory.
Now
> you
> > can run minimums and safety's on the sub components. You can
then
> sell
> > the subcomponents from inventory or issue them to the upper level
> > assembly. This will also help when the subcomponents are used in
> more
> > than one final assembly. In the upper level assembly you can
> decide in
> > the MOM whether you want to pull them as an assembly or not. You
> can
> > view then either way as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > At the job level, if you want to make them within the job, build
> them as
> > a subassembly. If you want to pull them from inventory, make
them a
> > material item.
> >
> >
> >
> > Charlie Smith
> >
> > Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies
> >
> > http://www.VistaConsultant.com
<http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
> > www.2WTech.com
> >
> >
> >
> > CT: (860) 620-9553
> >
> > PA: (814) 333-3117
> >
> > IL: (312) 583-9985
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On
> Behalf
> > Of bnazmi38
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:20 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Structuring Engineering MOMs
> >
> >
> >
> > There is a possibility that we would also sell the Phantom
items.
> > In other words, imagine product XYZ is consisted of sub-
> > assemblies/phantom XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3
> >
> > Our customers may want to buy either one of these items:
> > XYZ, XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3
> >
> > Bahram
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > A phantom, by definition, is never manufactured. It's
components
> > > become part of it's parent's Job BOM. Why do you need
operations
> > on
> > > phantoms?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "bnazmi38" <bahramn@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This question is directed to users with hands on experience
> with
> > > > structuring and maintaining MOMs.
> > > > We are in preparation mode before launching Vantage software
> for
> > > the
> > > > first time. Our dilemma is as how to structure MOMs to
address
> > the
> > > > issue with labor reporting. Apparently having Phantoms with
> > > operations
> > > > assigned to them can result in false labor reporting at top
> > level,
> > > > when rolled up.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a method of successfully addressing this.
The
> > > obvious
> > > > solution is to not to use phantoms and just have a flat BOM,
> > i.e.
> > > no
> > > > structure. This option would not be a practical one for us
> > > considering
> > > > the number of BOMs that we have now and is growing every
day.
> > Not
> > > > alone to mention maintaining them.
> > > >
> > > > Desperately seeking feedback.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Bahram
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
This question is directed to users with hands on experience with
structuring and maintaining MOMs.
We are in preparation mode before launching Vantage software for the
first time. Our dilemma is as how to structure MOMs to address the
issue with labor reporting. Apparently having Phantoms with operations
assigned to them can result in false labor reporting at top level,
when rolled up.

Does anyone have a method of successfully addressing this. The obvious
solution is to not to use phantoms and just have a flat BOM, i.e. no
structure. This option would not be a practical one for us considering
the number of BOMs that we have now and is growing every day. Not
alone to mention maintaining them.

Desperately seeking feedback.
Thanks
Bahram
A phantom, by definition, is never manufactured. It's components
become part of it's parent's Job BOM. Why do you need operations on
phantoms?


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bnazmi38" <bahramn@...> wrote:
>
> This question is directed to users with hands on experience with
> structuring and maintaining MOMs.
> We are in preparation mode before launching Vantage software for
the
> first time. Our dilemma is as how to structure MOMs to address the
> issue with labor reporting. Apparently having Phantoms with
operations
> assigned to them can result in false labor reporting at top level,
> when rolled up.
>
> Does anyone have a method of successfully addressing this. The
obvious
> solution is to not to use phantoms and just have a flat BOM, i.e.
no
> structure. This option would not be a practical one for us
considering
> the number of BOMs that we have now and is growing every day. Not
> alone to mention maintaining them.
>
> Desperately seeking feedback.
> Thanks
> Bahram
>
There is a possibility that we would also sell the Phantom items.
In other words, imagine product XYZ is consisted of sub-
assemblies/phantom XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3

Our customers may want to buy either one of these items:
XYZ, XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3

Bahram


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@...> wrote:
>
> A phantom, by definition, is never manufactured. It's components
> become part of it's parent's Job BOM. Why do you need operations
on
> phantoms?
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bnazmi38" <bahramn@> wrote:
> >
> > This question is directed to users with hands on experience with
> > structuring and maintaining MOMs.
> > We are in preparation mode before launching Vantage software for
> the
> > first time. Our dilemma is as how to structure MOMs to address
the
> > issue with labor reporting. Apparently having Phantoms with
> operations
> > assigned to them can result in false labor reporting at top
level,
> > when rolled up.
> >
> > Does anyone have a method of successfully addressing this. The
> obvious
> > solution is to not to use phantoms and just have a flat BOM,
i.e.
> no
> > structure. This option would not be a practical one for us
> considering
> > the number of BOMs that we have now and is growing every day.
Not
> > alone to mention maintaining them.
> >
> > Desperately seeking feedback.
> > Thanks
> > Bahram
> >
>
Manufacture the subcomponents and run them through inventory. Now you
can run minimums and safety's on the sub components. You can then sell
the subcomponents from inventory or issue them to the upper level
assembly. This will also help when the subcomponents are used in more
than one final assembly. In the upper level assembly you can decide in
the MOM whether you want to pull them as an assembly or not. You can
view then either way as well.



At the job level, if you want to make them within the job, build them as
a subassembly. If you want to pull them from inventory, make them a
material item.



Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies

http://www.VistaConsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com



CT: (860) 620-9553

PA: (814) 333-3117

IL: (312) 583-9985





From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of bnazmi38
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Structuring Engineering MOMs



There is a possibility that we would also sell the Phantom items.
In other words, imagine product XYZ is consisted of sub-
assemblies/phantom XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3

Our customers may want to buy either one of these items:
XYZ, XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3

Bahram

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Dave Thomas" <dthomas@...> wrote:
>
> A phantom, by definition, is never manufactured. It's components
> become part of it's parent's Job BOM. Why do you need operations
on
> phantoms?
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"bnazmi38" <bahramn@> wrote:
> >
> > This question is directed to users with hands on experience with
> > structuring and maintaining MOMs.
> > We are in preparation mode before launching Vantage software for
> the
> > first time. Our dilemma is as how to structure MOMs to address
the
> > issue with labor reporting. Apparently having Phantoms with
> operations
> > assigned to them can result in false labor reporting at top
level,
> > when rolled up.
> >
> > Does anyone have a method of successfully addressing this. The
> obvious
> > solution is to not to use phantoms and just have a flat BOM,
i.e.
> no
> > structure. This option would not be a practical one for us
> considering
> > the number of BOMs that we have now and is growing every day.
Not
> > alone to mention maintaining them.
> >
> > Desperately seeking feedback.
> > Thanks
> > Bahram
> >
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Another option would be to create a new "Manufactured" part number
for the phantom item when it is manufactured/sold on its own. The
BOM for the new part will consist only of the phantom. This will
allow you to continue using the phantoms as you are now, and also
make and sell them when needed.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie Smith" <CSmith@...> wrote:
>
> Manufacture the subcomponents and run them through inventory. Now
you
> can run minimums and safety's on the sub components. You can then
sell
> the subcomponents from inventory or issue them to the upper level
> assembly. This will also help when the subcomponents are used in
more
> than one final assembly. In the upper level assembly you can
decide in
> the MOM whether you want to pull them as an assembly or not. You
can
> view then either way as well.
>
>
>
> At the job level, if you want to make them within the job, build
them as
> a subassembly. If you want to pull them from inventory, make them a
> material item.
>
>
>
> Charlie Smith
>
> Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies
>
> http://www.VistaConsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
> www.2WTech.com
>
>
>
> CT: (860) 620-9553
>
> PA: (814) 333-3117
>
> IL: (312) 583-9985
>
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of bnazmi38
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:20 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Structuring Engineering MOMs
>
>
>
> There is a possibility that we would also sell the Phantom items.
> In other words, imagine product XYZ is consisted of sub-
> assemblies/phantom XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3
>
> Our customers may want to buy either one of these items:
> XYZ, XYZ-1, XYZ-2 and XYZ-3
>
> Bahram
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@> wrote:
> >
> > A phantom, by definition, is never manufactured. It's components
> > become part of it's parent's Job BOM. Why do you need operations
> on
> > phantoms?
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "bnazmi38" <bahramn@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This question is directed to users with hands on experience
with
> > > structuring and maintaining MOMs.
> > > We are in preparation mode before launching Vantage software
for
> > the
> > > first time. Our dilemma is as how to structure MOMs to address
> the
> > > issue with labor reporting. Apparently having Phantoms with
> > operations
> > > assigned to them can result in false labor reporting at top
> level,
> > > when rolled up.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a method of successfully addressing this. The
> > obvious
> > > solution is to not to use phantoms and just have a flat BOM,
> i.e.
> > no
> > > structure. This option would not be a practical one for us
> > considering
> > > the number of BOMs that we have now and is growing every day.
> Not
> > > alone to mention maintaining them.
> > >
> > > Desperately seeking feedback.
> > > Thanks
> > > Bahram
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>