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Our re-testing Thursday was successful. The problems initially encountered appeared to have been a result of issues with imported data (most likely method OpDtl data and/or part-vendor related data).

Lessons learned:

1. The subcontract OP does NOT have to be the last OP in the Job. (Whew!)
2. It does not matter whether the subcontract PO is set as Inspection Required or not.
3. It does not matter if the subcontract OP is set up as a Labor activity Back-flush (versus quantity) reporting - other than one caveat:

If you make it quantity reporting and the activity is going to reported via 8.03.404 MES, MES has a bug that screws up the process (leaving the OP appear open even though fully qty reported).

404 MES does NOT auto-set the 2 related db tables' Job OP completion status fields to complete (value=true) even when the full OP qty is reported as done.

This appears to be the case for any reportable OP (not just subcontract).

The standard Labor Entry app DOES correctly set these fields so it is not an issue unless your activity reporting users are limited to lower cost MES licenses.

Perhaps the just released 404A corrects the problem (although I saw nothing in the release notes to indicate that is true).

The only area unconfirmed was verification that cost flowed correctly into the Jobs WIP and, subsequently, into inventory after Job Receipt. (Planned to be tested on a more general level in the near future.)

Thanks for the help Jim. Much appreciated.

Rob Brown


Jim Frice <Jim.Frice@...> wrote: I just tested a couple subcontract receipts here and it flagged the
operation as complete. We don't have inspection turned on for any of
these. Are the quantity received equal to or greater than the required
quantity for the demand? Make sure the issued complete is checked on the
receipt or being unchecked by accident.

Jim

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Of Robert Brown
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Transactions are there. The subcontract op just isn't being flagged as
complete (even after successful inspection processing of the subcontract
receipt).

We're going to be going thru the process again tomorrow in detail. I'm
hoping to find some easy to fix data set up problem (since it worked OK
before v404).

Thanks

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@... <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> > wrote:
??? We use this all the time. If the po is received and the inspection
processing is done, it should work. Do you see the transactions in job
tracker?

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Still no joy. No OP status compete even after inspection processing
complete/

Possibly some final trigger I'm unaware of?

Thx

Rob Borwn

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote:
The
inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.

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Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract
OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote:
When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the
job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that
even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it
may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill


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When the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.





Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.







When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.



Mike

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Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract



Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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We were just testing subcontract processing in 404 yesterday and had the same issue arise.

We DID use the Subcontract shipping process so I doubt that is the sole contributing problem.

I suggest you DO transact your shipments to subcontractors using the subcontract shipping process however - as the system is designed to process subcontract OP in this way... (Never wise to purposefully thwart any system's designed process flows.)

My initial observation is that, for reason(s) not yet determined, the boolean Operation Complete field in table JobOper is not being set to TRUE.

Anyone out there (on 404) know if subcontract OPs' activity reporting method should be specifically set up as Backflush versus Qty Reporting?

It didn't seem to matter on 305. I don't think we specifically tested if it mattered on 403.

Rob Brown


Bill Finn <billfinn03766@...> wrote: Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown





Mike McGee <mmcgee@...> wrote: When the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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The inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.





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Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract



Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote: When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Still no joy. No OP status compete even after inspection processing complete/

Possibly some final trigger I'm unaware of?

Thx

Rob Borwn

Mike McGee <mmcgee@...> wrote: The inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote: When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Well, I spent a fari amount of time on this today and I know what works. I don't know that it is the only thing that works, but it does what I wanted it to. Here is the guideline I put together for our internal folks

When a part has subcontract operations, a suggestion will be generated when MRP sees a suggested job for the part. The following steps need to take place in order to complete the sequence completely.

Create the Job for a part that has a subcontract operation
Make the parts
Transact the operation as complete in MES.
Create the PO from the suggestion in New PO Suggestions, on the subcontract Tab.
Ship the parts out using Subcontractor Shipment Entry
Receive the parts back in on the Purchase Order
Receive the parts using Job Receipts to Inventory
I have followed these steps several times and I have seen the inventory get incremented as it is supposed to. Any other set of steps does not result in inventory getting incremented. Apparently when the Subcontractor Shipment Entry is done, it does something to the parts so that they donÂ’t show up as available for being transacted incorrectly.
If anyone comes up with something different please let me know.
thanks
bill

Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...> wrote:
Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown





Mike McGee wrote: When the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Bill,

Completed pieces are related to the 'final operation'. If your company
identifies this final operation then it will be the operation you
designate as final -- if you do not identify then it will be the final
operation on the job. The subcontract functionality is useful for
tracking pieces to and from suppliers.

Good Luck,

Jill


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??? We use this all the time. If the po is received and the inspection
processing is done, it should work. Do you see the transactions in job
tracker?



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Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract



Still no joy. No OP status compete even after inspection processing
complete/

Possibly some final trigger I'm unaware of?

Thx

Rob Borwn

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote: The
inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.

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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote: When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Transactions are there. The subcontract op just isn't being flagged as complete (even after successful inspection processing of the subcontract receipt).

We're going to be going thru the process again tomorrow in detail. I'm hoping to find some easy to fix data set up problem (since it worked OK before v404).

Thanks

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@...> wrote:
??? We use this all the time. If the po is received and the inspection
processing is done, it should work. Do you see the transactions in job
tracker?

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Still no joy. No OP status compete even after inspection processing
complete/

Possibly some final trigger I'm unaware of?

Thx

Rob Borwn

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote: The
inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote: When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Rob, one other thing, make sure the subcontract op is the last op on your job. That bit me a couple of times.
bill
Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...> wrote: Transactions are there. The subcontract op just isn't being flagged as complete (even after successful inspection processing of the subcontract receipt).

We're going to be going thru the process again tomorrow in detail. I'm hoping to find some easy to fix data set up problem (since it worked OK before v404).

Thanks

Rob Brown

Mike McGee wrote:
??? We use this all the time. If the po is received and the inspection
processing is done, it should work. Do you see the transactions in job
tracker?

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Still no joy. No OP status compete even after inspection processing
complete/

Possibly some final trigger I'm unaware of?

Thx

Rob Borwn

Mike McGee com> wrote: The
inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee com> wrote: When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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From: vantage@yahoogroups .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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Wow... I hope that isn't true... We have (many) Methods with up to 20(+) Ops with subcontract Ops sprinkled in throughout. Most of our Methods with subcontract OPs (perhaps 1000) could (I suppose) be adjusted so the last OP is the subcontract OP - but that isn't going to help with the complex Methods mentioned above.

Time to put the thinking cap on I guess!

Thanks - VERY helpful.

Rob Brown

Bill Finn <billfinn03766@...> wrote:
Rob, one other thing, make sure the subcontract op is the last op on your job. That bit me a couple of times.
bill
Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...> wrote: Transactions are there. The subcontract op just isn't being flagged as complete (even after successful inspection processing of the subcontract receipt).

We're going to be going thru the process again tomorrow in detail. I'm hoping to find some easy to fix data set up problem (since it worked OK before v404).

Thanks

Rob Brown

Mike McGee wrote:
??? We use this all the time. If the po is received and the inspection
processing is done, it should work. Do you see the transactions in job
tracker?

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Still no joy. No OP status compete even after inspection processing
complete/

Possibly some final trigger I'm unaware of?

Thx

Rob Borwn

Mike McGee com> wrote: The
inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee com> wrote: When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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I just tested a couple subcontract receipts here and it flagged the
operation as complete. We don't have inspection turned on for any of
these. Are the quantity received equal to or greater than the required
quantity for the demand? Make sure the issued complete is checked on the
receipt or being unchecked by accident.

Jim

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract



Transactions are there. The subcontract op just isn't being flagged as
complete (even after successful inspection processing of the subcontract
receipt).

We're going to be going thru the process again tomorrow in detail. I'm
hoping to find some easy to fix data set up problem (since it worked OK
before v404).

Thanks

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@... <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> > wrote:
??? We use this all the time. If the po is received and the inspection
processing is done, it should work. Do you see the transactions in job
tracker?

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Still no joy. No OP status compete even after inspection processing
complete/

Possibly some final trigger I'm unaware of?

Thx

Rob Borwn

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote:
The
inspection processing must be completed and dispositioned in order for
the operation to close.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] subcontract

Again, in our 404 testing yesterday, we did that to the letter - but the
subcontract operation was NOT automatically closed upon receipt of the
subcontract PO.

All of our subcontract processing is also set for receipt inspection
required (which may or may not be a contributing factor to the observed
behavior problem).

Even after processing subcontract PO receipt inspection, the subcontract
OP
still was not automatically set as status complete.

Any ideas?

Rob Brown

Mike McGee <mmcgee@flexial. <mailto:mmcgee%40flexial.com> com> wrote:
When
the subcontract operation is added to the job, be sure it is entered as
a subcontract operation.

Enter your vendor information on the job.

You have a choice on Pos between Inventory - other- Job material - or
subcontract operation - select subcontract operation.

When the PO is received it will automatically close the operation on the
job
and transfer the cost from the PO to the job.

Mike

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Bill Finn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] subcontract

Is anyone using the subcontract functionality? We sometimes see that
even
though the job is complete, when we try to do a job receipt to inventory
there is no value in the Quantity Completed box. I am thinking that it
may
be due to our shipper not using the Subcontractor Shipment when these
subcontrat items leave our facility to go to the sub. any input would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
bill

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