Subcontract Operation PO Suggestions

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Good morning EpiUsers!
We implemented in July of 2024, and at the time, we all agreed that we did not subcontract operations, so we just kinda skipped over any discussion around it. Fast forward 9 months and we have a need to set up a subcontract operation. We want to do it right rather than going outside the system to manage the process.

  1. I setup the operation, marked it as subcontract, assigned a supplier and a resource group (we are 1 site and all resources are associated with that site).
  2. From there I ensured that I had an approved supplier for the operation, and setup the supplier price list.
  3. From there I created the part, engineered the part with the Operation and approved it and checked back in.
  4. From there, I entered an order, confirmed it and released it, ran MRP and released the job that the order demand created. The Job shows on the scheduling board, and the subcontract operation is taking into account the 21 lead time that I entered on the supplier price list.

The one thing that’s confounding me is why it will not show up in PO Suggestions. This is the dashboard that our purchasers use to kick off review and release purchases from. Best Practice (in our new system) is to review validate and understand each suggestion prior to issuing. It’s also the place where, without communication or direction, the purchasers go to see what needs to be bought. Of note, I can manually enter a PO, point to the Firmed Job and it populates all the expected costing from the supplier price list and quantity from the job.

Does anyone have any tips (or setup guides to follow) to look for to get the subcontract to show up in PO Suggestions? And yes, I did toggle back and forth between Material, All and Subcontract views hunting for my suggestion.

Thanks in advance!

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From your description, it sounds like you have everything setup properly. I would start by running BAQs on the tables, PartDtl and SugPODtl, looking for the part in question. I would also look for other parts in these tables associated with the Job to confirm it processed properly. From the results of the BAQs, I would hope to find direction on where to look next. I understand this response is vague but hopefully the BAQ results provide direction.

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Thanks Bruce,
I think that we may have figured it out.

On the Part Card of the Finished Good that contains the Subcontract Operation, was flipped from Manufactured to Purchased, then on the Site Details, Generate Suggestions was checked. After that, we turned it back to Manufactured on the Part Detail, and ensured that Process MRP was still checked.

This may have been an oversight, as when we first went live, we had manufactured parts showing up in PO suggestions to buy and Job Status Maintenance to manufacture. So we kinda made a rule that one or the other was checked to drop the demand into either PO Suggestion, or Job Status Maintenance, but not both. It seems like this is one of those “in between” scenarios.

I’ll bump this thread again as we continue testing.

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Could also be that the suggestions don’t show up until the job has been firmed. I know that it does that in some other instances (purchase direct?).

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