There is really not much to set up... It is more a 'people process' to be taught to your buyers.
The 'primary' subcontract supplier is defined in OP maintenance. After clicking on the SubCOntract OP tpye check box, the supplier and buyer fields are activates and you can then enter the primary supplier deisred to be used, their 'offset days' (LT process time) and a buyer.
In Methods themseelves, up you can also add a std cost expectation for the subcontract service for that specific part the method is intended to create. If you specifically want to ALWAYS use a secondary supplier for a particular part (making them effectively the primary supplier for doing the subcontract work for that part or parts) you can over-ride the OP std defaults at the method level.
For general secondary subcontract suppliers, all you have to do is create a supplier (differrent from primary subcontract supplier) price list for the parts you want this secondary source to be occasionally used for. The primary supplier will still receive subcontract PO suggestions for.
It is simply then a matter of training your buyers to convert the new subcontract PO suggestion to a PO and then changing the supplier to your set up secondary.
In a perfect world, this would update the subcontract OP details of the job, but this doesn't seem to be the case with all version of 8.03.40X we've been on. If you are on a verison that doesn't do this mindless housekeeping for you, edit the job details to specifically inidcate the new (secondary) supplier as the choice to be used for this job. (PO/line/release & qty - as well as entered price shoudlalready be there.)
LIke most things in Vantage, it us yet another process that is 90% complete and they failed to give you clear maintenance apps & internal app BOs that would make it trouble free and mindlesly simple.
It works though (and as I said, we do it every day on 405a with no ill effects other than continued LOATHING for Vantage by the users for not 'finishing the job' and producing truly productive, tight process apps).
Interesting note: The Supplier itself does not even have to be marked as (generally) approved in supplier maintenance. (It juts can not be marked as inactive.) Having an approved/active supplier-part relationship (not even a qty-price break entry) is all that is required.
(Makes you wonder what the value of supplier approval is... I'm betting NONE - just another unfinished overly heavy handed paradigm that Epcior doesn't even have the courtesy to tell the users does nothing through 405A... Perahps later releases it IS required - but I;m not holding my breath.)
Rob
Rob
The 'primary' subcontract supplier is defined in OP maintenance. After clicking on the SubCOntract OP tpye check box, the supplier and buyer fields are activates and you can then enter the primary supplier deisred to be used, their 'offset days' (LT process time) and a buyer.
In Methods themseelves, up you can also add a std cost expectation for the subcontract service for that specific part the method is intended to create. If you specifically want to ALWAYS use a secondary supplier for a particular part (making them effectively the primary supplier for doing the subcontract work for that part or parts) you can over-ride the OP std defaults at the method level.
For general secondary subcontract suppliers, all you have to do is create a supplier (differrent from primary subcontract supplier) price list for the parts you want this secondary source to be occasionally used for. The primary supplier will still receive subcontract PO suggestions for.
It is simply then a matter of training your buyers to convert the new subcontract PO suggestion to a PO and then changing the supplier to your set up secondary.
In a perfect world, this would update the subcontract OP details of the job, but this doesn't seem to be the case with all version of 8.03.40X we've been on. If you are on a verison that doesn't do this mindless housekeeping for you, edit the job details to specifically inidcate the new (secondary) supplier as the choice to be used for this job. (PO/line/release & qty - as well as entered price shoudlalready be there.)
LIke most things in Vantage, it us yet another process that is 90% complete and they failed to give you clear maintenance apps & internal app BOs that would make it trouble free and mindlesly simple.
It works though (and as I said, we do it every day on 405a with no ill effects other than continued LOATHING for Vantage by the users for not 'finishing the job' and producing truly productive, tight process apps).
Interesting note: The Supplier itself does not even have to be marked as (generally) approved in supplier maintenance. (It juts can not be marked as inactive.) Having an approved/active supplier-part relationship (not even a qty-price break entry) is all that is required.
(Makes you wonder what the value of supplier approval is... I'm betting NONE - just another unfinished overly heavy handed paradigm that Epcior doesn't even have the courtesy to tell the users does nothing through 405A... Perahps later releases it IS required - but I;m not holding my breath.)
Rob
Rob
--- On Fri, 4/24/09, vandertop26 <josh_vtop@...> wrote:
From: vandertop26 <josh_vtop@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Subcontract Operations - Secondary Supplier(s)?
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:32 PM
Rob (or others),
Is there something which has to be setup in order to achieve this? I looked through supplier maintenance and couldn't find any where where I could approve a supplier for an operation. I also don't see any options for multiple suppliers when setting up the operation. Is there something I am missing???
Thanks (maybe anyway),
--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...> wrote:
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