Subcontracting an assembly operation

We are in exactly the same situation and I am also disappointed with
the "Subcontractor Shipment Entry" document. (Perhaps in the
wonderful world of 8.0 this will all be a bad dream. . . .)

What we are doing is convoluted but I think it will work (I will
know more when I train others in the company in 2 weeks). I have
created a warehouse specifically for inventory at a subcontractor (1
bin per subcontractor). As the material is shipped, we will use
the "Miscellaneous Shipper" for the document and manually transfer
the material from one of our production warehouses to the
Subcontractor Warehouse/Bin. The Miscellaneous Shipper does not do
anything except create a shipping document. The cost information
will still be captured through the normal subcontractor PO, receipt
and invoice process, but now we will know where our material is and
the subcontractor will know what we expect them to have.

Your need to ship from the subcontractor to a customer consignment
warehouse is something I don't have to deal with (fortunately), but
it should be able to build on our process.

Let me know what you end up doing. I may need to adjust our process
if you create something better.


Michael Randolph
Purchasing Manager
American Magnetics, Inc.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "tmsover" <dnorris@b...> wrote:
>
> Group:
>
> We are working on our Vantage 6.1 implementation. We have a
situation
> we are trying to resolve with no luck. Here is what we are trying
to
> acheive:
>
> We sell Assy C to our end customer. Here is how it gets there.
>
> We have Part A in inventory in Bin01.
> We have Part B in inventory in Bin02.
> We need to send one Part A and one Part B to a subcontractor. When
we
> ship them we want them relieved from inventory bins 01 and 02 and
> moved to bin subcon.
>
> The subcontractor will assemble the Part A and Part B together to
> become Assy C. The subcontractor sends us a report on how many
they
> assembled this week, and we pay them for the service.
> After they assemble it, they will ship it to the end customer
> consignment bin. We still own it.
>
> When the end customer takes the parts, they tell us how many they
> took and we invoice them for it.
>
> The questions / issues we have are:
> Do we need a Job for Assy C with a MOM that has one step which is
> subcontract? If so, do we associate part A and B as material on
that
> step?
> When we have created a job described above, then tried to
> use "Subcontractor Shipping Entry", the packing slip says we are
> shipping Assy C, when in fact we are shipping parts A and B. This
> will never get through customs.
>
> Any suggestions? Do we even need a Job in Vantgage, or is there
some
> other way of processing this that will capture the cost of part A,
> part B, and the cost of the subcontractors service into the system
> for Assy C?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale Norris, IT Manager
> Bullen Ultrasonics Inc.
Group:

We are working on our Vantage 6.1 implementation. We have a situation
we are trying to resolve with no luck. Here is what we are trying to
acheive:

We sell Assy C to our end customer. Here is how it gets there.

We have Part A in inventory in Bin01.
We have Part B in inventory in Bin02.
We need to send one Part A and one Part B to a subcontractor. When we
ship them we want them relieved from inventory bins 01 and 02 and
moved to bin subcon.

The subcontractor will assemble the Part A and Part B together to
become Assy C. The subcontractor sends us a report on how many they
assembled this week, and we pay them for the service.
After they assemble it, they will ship it to the end customer
consignment bin. We still own it.

When the end customer takes the parts, they tell us how many they
took and we invoice them for it.

The questions / issues we have are:
Do we need a Job for Assy C with a MOM that has one step which is
subcontract? If so, do we associate part A and B as material on that
step?
When we have created a job described above, then tried to
use "Subcontractor Shipping Entry", the packing slip says we are
shipping Assy C, when in fact we are shipping parts A and B. This
will never get through customs.

Any suggestions? Do we even need a Job in Vantgage, or is there some
other way of processing this that will capture the cost of part A,
part B, and the cost of the subcontractors service into the system
for Assy C?

Thanks.

Dale Norris, IT Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics Inc.
You may want to look at amm which will give you greater visibility of WIP,
but you will definitely have to have a job.



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Group:

We are working on our Vantage 6.1 implementation. We have a situation
we are trying to resolve with no luck. Here is what we are trying to
acheive:

We sell Assy C to our end customer. Here is how it gets there.

We have Part A in inventory in Bin01.
We have Part B in inventory in Bin02.
We need to send one Part A and one Part B to a subcontractor. When we
ship them we want them relieved from inventory bins 01 and 02 and
moved to bin subcon.

The subcontractor will assemble the Part A and Part B together to
become Assy C. The subcontractor sends us a report on how many they
assembled this week, and we pay them for the service.
After they assemble it, they will ship it to the end customer
consignment bin. We still own it.

When the end customer takes the parts, they tell us how many they
took and we invoice them for it.

The questions / issues we have are:
Do we need a Job for Assy C with a MOM that has one step which is
subcontract? If so, do we associate part A and B as material on that
step?
When we have created a job described above, then tried to
use "Subcontractor Shipping Entry", the packing slip says we are
shipping Assy C, when in fact we are shipping parts A and B. This
will never get through customs.

Any suggestions? Do we even need a Job in Vantgage, or is there some
other way of processing this that will capture the cost of part A,
part B, and the cost of the subcontractors service into the system
for Assy C?

Thanks.

Dale Norris, IT Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics Inc.





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From: tmsover [mailto:dnorris@...]
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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Subcontracting an assembly operation




Group:

We are working on our Vantage 6.1 implementation. We have a situation
we are trying to resolve with no luck. Here is what we are trying to
acheive:

We sell Assy C to our end customer. Here is how it gets there.

We have Part A in inventory in Bin01.
We have Part B in inventory in Bin02.
We need to send one Part A and one Part B to a subcontractor. When we
ship them we want them relieved from inventory bins 01 and 02 and
moved to bin subcon.

The subcontractor will assemble the Part A and Part B together to
become Assy C. The subcontractor sends us a report on how many they
assembled this week, and we pay them for the service.
After they assemble it, they will ship it to the end customer
consignment bin. We still own it.

When the end customer takes the parts, they tell us how many they
took and we invoice them for it.

The questions / issues we have are:
Do we need a Job for Assy C with a MOM that has one step which is
subcontract? If so, do we associate part A and B as material on that
step?
When we have created a job described above, then tried to
use "Subcontractor Shipping Entry", the packing slip says we are
shipping Assy C, when in fact we are shipping parts A and B. This
will never get through customs.

Any suggestions? Do we even need a Job in Vantgage, or is there some
other way of processing this that will capture the cost of part A,
part B, and the cost of the subcontractors service into the system
for Assy C?

Thanks.

Dale Norris, IT Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics Inc.





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Subject: [Vantage] Subcontracting an assembly operation




Group:

We are working on our Vantage 6.1 implementation. We have a situation
we are trying to resolve with no luck. Here is what we are trying to
acheive:

We sell Assy C to our end customer. Here is how it gets there.

We have Part A in inventory in Bin01.
We have Part B in inventory in Bin02.
We need to send one Part A and one Part B to a subcontractor. When we
ship them we want them relieved from inventory bins 01 and 02 and
moved to bin subcon.

The subcontractor will assemble the Part A and Part B together to
become Assy C. The subcontractor sends us a report on how many they
assembled this week, and we pay them for the service.
After they assemble it, they will ship it to the end customer
consignment bin. We still own it.

When the end customer takes the parts, they tell us how many they
took and we invoice them for it.

The questions / issues we have are:
Do we need a Job for Assy C with a MOM that has one step which is
subcontract? If so, do we associate part A and B as material on that
step?
When we have created a job described above, then tried to
use "Subcontractor Shipping Entry", the packing slip says we are
shipping Assy C, when in fact we are shipping parts A and B. This
will never get through customs.

Any suggestions? Do we even need a Job in Vantgage, or is there some
other way of processing this that will capture the cost of part A,
part B, and the cost of the subcontractors service into the system
for Assy C?

Thanks.

Dale Norris, IT Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics Inc.





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