We have a separate vantage server and another server running citrix /
terminal services

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Innovative Office Products
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-----Original Message-----
From: rmrindler [mailto:rrindler@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:34 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

For those of you using terminal server for your data collection
stations, are you running terminal server on your Vantage Server, or
are you running it on a separate server. Also, how big of a box are
you running it on & for how many clients?

Thanks.

Ryan Rindler
Norwood Tool Company

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
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We are trying to connect remotely. We also have a T-1. What do you mean am
I able connect locally? I can connect as the Administrator locally but that
seems to be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:50 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I would like to help you, I got a lot of help from this list when we were
trying to get Terminal server going last spring and then with Citrix last
month. However, Since we set TS up so long ago, it's difficult to remember
the exact steps we took. Once we got the server configured properly, the
user folders set up, the vantage command line correct, and then installed
the client, it seems that it was pretty straightforward at that point.
Connect to TS, pick the TS computer name, and log on. Are you attempting to
access from a local client or a remote client? Sometimes across our T1 at
the remote sites, they will g et a Timeout error, but usually if they try
again it will connect. It is much slower than connecting locally. Are you
able to connect locally?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

Yes and I can connect as Administrator but only as Administrator.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:01 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Have you tried installing the terminal server client onto a local client and
connect to the Terminal server via that connection?

------------------

We are trying to connect remotely. We also have a T-1. What do you mean am
I able connect locally? I can connect as the Administrator locally but that
seems to be it.

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

I used a book called "Windows NT Terminal Server and Citrix MetaFrame"
published by "New Riders" and written by Ted Harwood. I would recommend this
to anyone setting up Terminal server for the first time.

Ron Newell
IT/MIS
Neon Products
1695 Sargent Ave.
Winnipeg, MB R3H 0C4
http://www.neon-products.com/
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Lois, It sounds like you may not have the server set to allow the clients
to log on locally. You should create a group and place all TS users in that
group and let that group log on locally. You set these permissions using
User Manager\Policies\User Rights. Then select Log On Locally and select
the group you created. If you are connecting from a different domain, you
will need to set trusts up between domains. Hope this was of some help.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

Where is the User Manager you are referring to? All are in one domain.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:12 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Lois, It sounds like you may not have the server set to allow the clients
to log on locally. You should create a group and place all TS users in that
group and let that group log on locally. You set these permissions using
User Manager\Policies\User Rights. Then select Log On Locally and select
the group you created. If you are connecting from a different domain, you
will need to set trusts up between domains. Hope this was of some help.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

Start\Programs\Administrative Tools (Common)\User Manager

This is a very basic NT function for an administrator. If you have trouble
with this, see "windows_nt4@egroups.com". This is a very good user group
dealing with NT issues.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Heisey, Lois [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:15 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Where is the User Manager you are referring to? All are in one domain.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:12 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Lois, It sounds like you may not have the server set to allow the clients
to log on locally. You should create a group and place all TS users in that
group and let that group log on locally. You set these permissions using
User Manager\Policies\User Rights. Then select Log On Locally and select
the group you created. If you are connecting from a different domain, you
will need to set trusts up between domains. Hope this was of some help.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

Im sorry Roy I didn't know if you meant NT or Epicor. We are brand new to
Epicor and just getting started. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:32 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Start\Programs\Administrative Tools (Common)\User Manager

This is a very basic NT function for an administrator. If you have trouble
with this, see "windows_nt4@egroups.com". This is a very good user group
dealing with NT issues.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Heisey, Lois [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:15 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Where is the User Manager you are referring to? All are in one domain.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:12 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Lois, It sounds like you may not have the server set to allow the clients
to log on locally. You should create a group and place all TS users in that
group and let that group log on locally. You set these permissions using
User Manager\Policies\User Rights. Then select Log On Locally and select
the group you created. If you are connecting from a different domain, you
will need to set trusts up between domains. Hope this was of some help.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

No problem Lois...

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS
818-503-8100

-----Original Message-----
From: Heisey, Lois [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:22 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Im sorry Roy I didn't know if you meant NT or Epicor. We are brand new to
Epicor and just getting started. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:32 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Start\Programs\Administrative Tools (Common)\User Manager

This is a very basic NT function for an administrator. If you have trouble
with this, see "windows_nt4@egroups.com". This is a very good user group
dealing with NT issues.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Heisey, Lois [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:15 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Where is the User Manager you are referring to? All are in one domain.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:12 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Lois, It sounds like you may not have the server set to allow the clients
to log on locally. You should create a group and place all TS users in that
group and let that group log on locally. You set these permissions using
User Manager\Policies\User Rights. Then select Log On Locally and select
the group you created. If you are connecting from a different domain, you
will need to set trusts up between domains. Hope this was of some help.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

Make sure you get MetaFrame's Citrix.... Makes things a lot easier to
manage...

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password,
the link above will work the next time you try it.)

Is Citrix not expensive?

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Siebers [mailto:paul.siebers@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:34 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Make sure you get MetaFrame's Citrix.... Makes things a lot easier to
manage...

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password,
the link above will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

Depends on the number of users you plan to connect. I got a starter
license which supports 5 consecutive connections for about $1000...

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Heisey, Lois [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:52 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Is Citrix not expensive?

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Siebers [mailto:paul.siebers@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:34 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Make sure you get MetaFrame's Citrix.... Makes things a lot easier to
manage...

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Heisey [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:08 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

I need direction in getting my clients connected through terminal
server. I have TS installed on the server and the client installed
on the workstation. When I attempt to connect the connection times
out. Perhaps it is the adding of the user to terminal server and
some type of permissions that are wrong. Can anyone give me some
tips please?

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password,
the link above will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link
above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password,
the link above will work the next time you try it.)

Just a few hints when installing NT Terminal Server and Citrix:

Make sure there is nothing else running on the box, but WTS.

When it comes to Terminal Server "print drivers" = "head ache"; stay
away from any print drivers (especially HP) newer than HP 4.

Let your WTS/Citrix users connect as Administrators (sounds scary, but
you can do it without losing control, or compromising network security)

Get your CCA (Citrix Certified Administrator). It is only one exam and
the Citrix courseware is extremely good. Also excellent reference later
on.

When installing WTS format your HD and call it something else than C -
drive. M:\ should do. This allows users to log on and have theirs and
your WTS drive(s) show up as what they are on their system, only with a
$ after the drive lettter; less confusion.

Read up on using the "change user Install" command

Helpful sites:
www.citrix.com
www.thinworld.com
www.thethin.net

I wish I knew then what I know now....

HTH,

Paul

Does anyone know where we can get NT 4.0 Terminal Server edition? The only
thing we see for sale is Win 2000 Terminal. We have looked everywhere.

Scott Hildreth
MIS Manager
(716) 427-9050
FAX (716) 427-9051
Direct (716) 756-1460
Visit us at...
http://www.empireforster.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Siebers [SMTP:paul.siebers@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:34 PM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server
>
>
> Just a few hints when installing NT Terminal Server and Citrix:
>
> Make sure there is nothing else running on the box, but WTS.
>
> When it comes to Terminal Server "print drivers" = "head ache"; stay
> away from any print drivers (especially HP) newer than HP 4.
>
> Let your WTS/Citrix users connect as Administrators (sounds scary, but
> you can do it without losing control, or compromising network security)
>
> Get your CCA (Citrix Certified Administrator). It is only one exam and
> the Citrix courseware is extremely good. Also excellent reference later
> on.
>
> When installing WTS format your HD and call it something else than C -
> drive. M:\ should do. This allows users to log on and have theirs and
> your WTS drive(s) show up as what they are on their system, only with a
> $ after the drive lettter; less confusion.
>
> Read up on using the "change user Install" command
>
> Helpful sites:
> www.citrix.com
> www.thinworld.com
> www.thethin.net
>
> I wish I knew then what I know now....
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Paul
>
> We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
> please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
> (Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
> to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
> Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the
> link above will work the next time you try it.)

NT Terminal Server is no longer going to be supported through Microsoft.
This is a discontinued product. You can find a third part that has it in
stock but you may not be able to get support if needed.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS
818-503-8100

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hildreth [mailto:scotth@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:10 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Does anyone know where we can get NT 4.0 Terminal Server edition? The only
thing we see for sale is Win 2000 Terminal. We have looked everywhere.

Scott Hildreth
MIS Manager
(716) 427-9050
FAX (716) 427-9051
Direct (716) 756-1460
Visit us at...
http://www.empireforster.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Siebers [SMTP:paul.siebers@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:34 PM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server
>
>
> Just a few hints when installing NT Terminal Server and Citrix:
>
> Make sure there is nothing else running on the box, but WTS.
>
> When it comes to Terminal Server "print drivers" = "head ache"; stay
> away from any print drivers (especially HP) newer than HP 4.
>
> Let your WTS/Citrix users connect as Administrators (sounds scary, but
> you can do it without losing control, or compromising network security)
>
> Get your CCA (Citrix Certified Administrator). It is only one exam and
> the Citrix courseware is extremely good. Also excellent reference later
> on.
>
> When installing WTS format your HD and call it something else than C -
> drive. M:\ should do. This allows users to log on and have theirs and
> your WTS drive(s) show up as what they are on their system, only with a
> $ after the drive lettter; less confusion.
>
> Read up on using the "change user Install" command
>
> Helpful sites:
> www.citrix.com
> www.thinworld.com
> www.thethin.net
>
> I wish I knew then what I know now....
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Paul
>
> We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
> please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
> (Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
> to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
> Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the
> link above will work the next time you try it.)

Roy,

Where does this leave Citrix ?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:09 PM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

NT Terminal Server is no longer going to be supported through Microsoft.
This is a discontinued product. You can find a third part that has it in
stock but you may not be able to get support if needed.

Roy Bosworth
Senior Manager IT/MIS
818-503-8100

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hildreth [mailto:scotth@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:10 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Does anyone know where we can get NT 4.0 Terminal Server edition? The only
thing we see for sale is Win 2000 Terminal. We have looked everywhere.

Scott Hildreth
MIS Manager
(716) 427-9050
FAX (716) 427-9051
Direct (716) 756-1460
Visit us at...
http://www.empireforster.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Siebers [SMTP:paul.siebers@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:34 PM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server
>
>
> Just a few hints when installing NT Terminal Server and Citrix:
>
> Make sure there is nothing else running on the box, but WTS.
>
> When it comes to Terminal Server "print drivers" = "head ache"; stay
> away from any print drivers (especially HP) newer than HP 4.
>
> Let your WTS/Citrix users connect as Administrators (sounds scary, but
> you can do it without losing control, or compromising network security)
>
> Get your CCA (Citrix Certified Administrator). It is only one exam and
> the Citrix courseware is extremely good. Also excellent reference later
> on.
>
> When installing WTS format your HD and call it something else than C -
> drive. M:\ should do. This allows users to log on and have theirs and
> your WTS drive(s) show up as what they are on their system, only with a
> $ after the drive lettter; less confusion.
>
> Read up on using the "change user Install" command
>
> Helpful sites:
> www.citrix.com
> www.thinworld.com
> www.thethin.net
>
> I wish I knew then what I know now....
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Paul
>
> We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
> please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
> (Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
> to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
> Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the
> link above will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)

you can use Win2000 with terminal server for your Citrix server but if your
domain controller is not 2000 you run into headaches

Scott Hildreth
MIS Manager
(716) 427-9050
FAX (716) 427-9051
Direct (716) 756-1460
Visit us at...
http://www.empireforster.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Anderson [SMTP:tanderson@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 3:08 PM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server
>
> Roy,
>
> Where does this leave Citrix ?
>
> Todd Anderson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Bosworth [mailto:royb@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:09 PM
> To: vantage@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server
>
>
> NT Terminal Server is no longer going to be supported through Microsoft.
> This is a discontinued product. You can find a third part that has it in
> stock but you may not be able to get support if needed.
>
> Roy Bosworth
> Senior Manager IT/MIS
> 818-503-8100
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Hildreth [mailto:scotth@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:10 AM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server
>
>
> Does anyone know where we can get NT 4.0 Terminal Server edition? The only
> thing we see for sale is Win 2000 Terminal. We have looked everywhere.
>
> Scott Hildreth
> MIS Manager
> (716) 427-9050
> FAX (716) 427-9051
> Direct (716) 756-1460
> Visit us at...
> http://www.empireforster.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Siebers [SMTP:paul.siebers@...]
> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:34 PM
> > To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server
> >
> >
> > Just a few hints when installing NT Terminal Server and Citrix:
> >
> > Make sure there is nothing else running on the box, but WTS.
> >
> > When it comes to Terminal Server "print drivers" = "head ache"; stay
> > away from any print drivers (especially HP) newer than HP 4.
> >
> > Let your WTS/Citrix users connect as Administrators (sounds scary, but
> > you can do it without losing control, or compromising network security)
> >
> > Get your CCA (Citrix Certified Administrator). It is only one exam and
> > the Citrix courseware is extremely good. Also excellent reference later
> > on.
> >
> > When installing WTS format your HD and call it something else than C -
> > drive. M:\ should do. This allows users to log on and have theirs and
> > your WTS drive(s) show up as what they are on their system, only with a
> > $ after the drive lettter; less confusion.
> >
> > Read up on using the "change user Install" command
> >
> > Helpful sites:
> > www.citrix.com
> > www.thinworld.com
> > www.thethin.net
> >
> > I wish I knew then what I know now....
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
> > please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
> > (Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
> > to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
> > Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password,
> the
> > link above will work the next time you try it.)
>
> We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
> please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
> (Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
> to
> www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
> Groups,
> choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link
> above
> will work the next time you try it.)
>
> We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
> please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
> (Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
> to
> www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
> Groups,
> choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link
> above
> will work the next time you try it.)
>
> We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
> please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
> (Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go
> to www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My
> Groups, choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the
> link above will work the next time you try it.)

--- In vantage@y..., "De Anna Godfrey" <dgodfrey@m...> wrote:

> Would someone be willing to speak with me regarding Terminal

Server. I

> would like to know the requirements, est. costs, and the

performance.

>
> Thanks,
>
> De Anna Godfrey
> McNeal Enterprises, Inc.
> 408.922.7290
> dgodfrey@m...

We use terminal Server on a regular basis (well about 3 to 4 us us )
with no real problems to speak of.

I set up Terminal Services which came bundled with Windows 2000
Server and linked all appropriate persons thru a limited network
connection (the system is an old Pentium Pro 200mhz, 256 ram, and
with 2 different hard drives ~mirrored for redundancy~ and we also
use a 192 DSL connection ~kind of slow, but OK~ I connect thru a
cable access with just a little difference in proformance, but other
users accessing thru a dial up connection have a noted difference

The cost of our system was not an issue, we replaced an engineering
system and this was left from that, We did need to purchase another
copy of Win 2K Server, and a few Terminal server access liscences,
but I think that if a user has Win 2K Pro installed another liscense
is not needed.

Security is not very Hard to set up, if you take the time to set it
up, like you should do in the settings in the entire network anyway.

There is an admin access in Term Server (I believe you are allowed 2
simultaneous users) which are free with the server OS.

if you have more questions just aks OK?

Kevin Fitzpatrick

Performance issues should be unrelated to the Terminal or Citrix server. I
hope you're not running (planning to run) the Terminal / Citrix server on
the Vantage server. That would be a resource hog and slow both down
considerably. As long as you have a separate server in the network for
Vantage and Terminal / Citrix services, there won't be any greater
performance hit than if you added those users on workstations in your
network.

Chris Gitzlaff
Manager - Information Systems & Technology
Major Industries, Inc.
Phone: 715-842-4616
Fax: 715-848-3336

-----Original Message-----
From: dollbaby_55 <brinda@...> [mailto:brinda@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

Is anyone using Citrix or Terminal server with a database size of 2G
or more? I would be interested in learning about performance issues.

Brinda Whitaker
Othy Inc.

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

We use Uniprint as a print server. This server converts all print jobs into
a PDF compressed and encrypted format, and send it to the Uniprint Client
which in turn prints the PDF job using local drivers. It also requires
Acrobat Reader (see PDF format above). It takes a little bit of getting use
to it, but it is so far the best solution we have for our terminal server.
Visit uniprint.net to check it out. Rather than install every conceivable
printer driver out there, you install the Uniprint client at the clients
computer (they can download it from the internet) and voila, you can print
now. Also, the client allows you to preview/save the job locally on PDF
format for those like me that like to e-mail rather than fax documents and
keep the document for future reference.

Mario Aguirre
Lakin General

-----Original Message-----
From: PLAMAN DICK [mailto:dick.plaman@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:45 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Terminal Server

We use Terminal server for remote access through our VPN. Our DB size is
2.4g.
Performance is very good (as good as local network performance). The
biggest
drawbacks are printing issues. We've (IT) had to install printers locally
at
the remote users homes to enable printing out of Vantage and report builder.

>Is anyone using Citrix or Terminal server with a database size of 2G
>or more? I would be interested in learning about performance issues.

>Brinda Whitaker
>Othy Inc.

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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We are using about a dozen winterms for datacollection, and have
configured some older
Compaq deskpro's to be essentially dumb clients. We have a total of
about 50 on-site users and another 20 remote users connecting to our
dual xeon 2.6G (4G ram) box.
It really works great. An occassional print problem.
Regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: rmrindler [mailto:rrindler@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:34 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Terminal Server

For those of you using terminal server for your data collection
stations, are you running terminal server on your Vantage Server, or are
you running it on a separate server. Also, how big of a box are you
running it on & for how many clients?

Thanks.

Ryan Rindler
Norwood Tool Company

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
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