We update our shop rates semi-annually. This includes changing the labor and burden rates in the resource groups. If a job was created before the rate change, it uses the old rates for estimates. Is there any way to update all open jobs to use the new rates in the estimates? The only way I can think…

The complicated part is that we want to use the estimates to help estimate the remaining cost on long running jobs. In another BAQ I am looking at these estimate values to calculate what should be remaining costs, compared to estimated job value. The estimates for a job that is already open and part…

Talking it around the shop. We may be able to take an extra large grain of salt with the cost estimates at job closing. If that concession gives us more accurate job costing data looking forward. :thinking: Does anyone know if the Estimate Labor/Burden costs showing in job closing are used anywhere…

So I ran a function to cycle all my open/released jobs, and run the job cost update function for each job it finds. It has no feedback while it is running. I have a BAQ that I can run that shows the records that should be updated (Est Lab on job <> Est Lab on op.) This showed about 3400 records befo…

[image] NateS: Is there anywhere to see the status of running functions? Or to kill a stuck function? For scheduled functions, the system monitor will only tell you if it’s active / complete / failed. Functions will not stop themselves if you try to cancel them UNLESS you go and check SysTask…

I have discovered an issue, or perhaps a bug in Epicor (shocking, I know…) For a handful of job/asm/operations, I can’t save the change after I manually check and uncheck Override rates. I get the useless error: We apologize, but an unexpected internal problem occurred. Please provide your System…

Could be related, same error message at least: [image] Time Entry & MES Glitches Kinetic ERP Kinetic 2026.100.7 On Cloud: Is anyone having Time Entry Errors or people being “Stuck in the MES” and have to complete End Active Labor? Both Time Entry and MES are…

**Beep Boop told me this. Why only a few operations fail** Because the error is driven by the resource + calendar + dates on that specific operation detail (your log shows OpDtl 10 on Op 30). The operations that fail all share some condition that leaves AddHours with no valid time bucket to load i…

Based on that thread… I wonder… if you take one of the operations that failed… remove that job from the schedule. That should remove any “ResourceTimeUsed” values all together (if its not scheduled, it shouldn’t have LoadDays or LoadHours, right? Run your function against that job again… and then …

I ran that RTU BAQ and nothing pops out so I looked at just the RTU subquery. I had to filter by whatif= false to cut the number of records in half. Then I can see this: [Screenshot 2026-09-11 134443] So even though the number of Load records is 1, the load hours are actually 0. What recalculates l…

I believe load is crunched when scheduling, yes.

Update Job Costs When Rates Change?

Kinetic ERP

genoah.martinelli (Genoah Martinelli) September 11, 2026, 5:35pm 26

Could be related, same error message at least: