User 4 User Conference

I also attended the conference this past week and found it very
beneficial. I believe the general consensus was there was a great deal
of knowledge exchange without any sales pitches. I personally learned a
lot and benefited from attending sessions on topics I thought I already
know a lot about. I am definitely planning on attending next years
conference as I was genuinely pleased with the conference overall.



Mark Smith
Director of Information Systems
Innerpac, Inc
(p) 708-863-8300
(f) 708-863-9770
www.innerpac.com



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of kathyschaich
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:[Vantage] User 4 User Conference



I just want to congratulate Calvin on the success of the User 4 User
Conference held in Chicago last week.

Due to the fact that there were several instructor cancelations, I
want to thank Calvin Dekker and Katharine Barry for presenting many of
the sessions (with very short notice to get their materials together).

I also want to thank all of the other presenters who gave of their
time to make this conference a success.

There was quite a bit of information exchanged between users during
this two-day conference and I felt that this conference was well worth
the time and money to attend.

I definitely will plan on attending this conference next year, which
by the way has tentatively been scheduled for May 2006.

Kathy Schaich
Ultra Tool & Mfg, Inc.




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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
These last few weeks, those of us involved with the User4User conference
have been gratified with the interest shown in the upcoming conference.
Needless to say this has been a learning process for all of us! In
reviewing some of the comments placed on the Yahoo Group today, it occurred
to me that it may be beneficial for everyone to know a bit more on the
history of U4U and how it came about.

In late November of 2001, the Vantage Midwest User's Group voted to sponsor
and coordinate the first User4User conference. At that time multiple phone
calls were placed and emails were sent to solicit Epicor's participation.
Furthermore, in an attempt to encourage Epicor's participation, the
conference materials were forwarded to the corporate office in Irvine for
review prior to general release. The original plan was to seek volunteer
participation from Epicor in the areas of Technical Support, Customer
Services, and Marketing, which unfortunately Epicor to date has refused.
VMUG, however, felt there was enough value in such a conference that they
decided to risk their treasury and hold it anyway, depending strictly on
volunteers from the Vantage user community to make it happen.

We hoped to have hands-on workshops; we asked various member companies if
they would be willing to loan test servers with a training database
installed for use at the conference. This idea was quashed by a letter from
Epicor dated April 30 that stated; "Please also be advised that any efforts
on your part to utilize a properly licensed licensee's version of the
Vantage Software for your purposes may be seen as a violation of that users
license agreement and subject you both to civil penalties and damages,
including termination of that licensee's license agreement." Rather than
risk any member company's license agreement, it was determined that the
educational information would be handled via PowerPoint presentations. As a
benefit to attendees at the conference, a copy of all the educational
presentations will be provided in the conference binders. This means
whether or not you attend a session, you will still be able to access the
printed information.

The conference is designed with a focus on EDUCATION. The sessions
scheduled are focused toward helping the smaller and less experienced users
with the knowledge that has been attained by the more seasoned users, while
also allowing the more seasoned users a fresh look at Vantage from a
perspective similar to that of a new user.

The other goal of the conference is to make it accessible to as many users
as possible, by keeping the conference as affordable as possible. When you
visit http://www.vantageusers.org/u4u you will see everything you get for
your registration fee (two days of education, hotel and meals), which is
highly reasonable for a gathering of this magnitude. As a non-profit
organization, VMUG expects to reinvest any potential profits back into U4U
conference.

The more attendees we have from various industries and manufacturing types,
the more comprehensive the education will be for everyone. Presently two
"unauthorized third party consulting groups" have volunteered their
personnel at no charge for teaching some of the sessions. This is to be
used as an auxiliary. If a panel or facilitator can be found from a
Vantage-using company, we would prefer and utilize them instead of the
donated consultant base.

The conference is open to any company associated with the use of Vantage,
not just VMUG members. Due to the fact that VMUG had a limited treasury to
secure a location for the event, space is limited to 250 attendees.
Therefore, registration is on a first come - first served basis.
Procrastination in registering members from your company is definitely not
advisable.

Anyone requesting information on the User 4 User Conference is strongly
encouraged to contact the following or myself directly.
Information & Registration conference@...
Education education@...

Calvin Dekker
VMUG Chairperson
calvin@...



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Not to sound cheap just trying to be frugal. Is there a discount for those
of us that want to go home to our families and not stay at the hotel, have
dinner or enjoy the entertainment?

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Calvin Dekker [mailto:calvin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:56 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] User 4 User Conference


These last few weeks, those of us involved with the User4User conference
have been gratified with the interest shown in the upcoming conference.
Needless to say this has been a learning process for all of us! In
reviewing some of the comments placed on the Yahoo Group today, it occurred
to me that it may be beneficial for everyone to know a bit more on the
history of U4U and how it came about.

In late November of 2001, the Vantage Midwest User's Group voted to sponsor
and coordinate the first User4User conference. At that time multiple phone
calls were placed and emails were sent to solicit Epicor's participation.
Furthermore, in an attempt to encourage Epicor's participation, the
conference materials were forwarded to the corporate office in Irvine for
review prior to general release. The original plan was to seek volunteer
participation from Epicor in the areas of Technical Support, Customer
Services, and Marketing, which unfortunately Epicor to date has refused.
VMUG, however, felt there was enough value in such a conference that they
decided to risk their treasury and hold it anyway, depending strictly on
volunteers from the Vantage user community to make it happen.

We hoped to have hands-on workshops; we asked various member companies if
they would be willing to loan test servers with a training database
installed for use at the conference. This idea was quashed by a letter from
Epicor dated April 30 that stated; "Please also be advised that any efforts
on your part to utilize a properly licensed licensee's version of the
Vantage Software for your purposes may be seen as a violation of that users
license agreement and subject you both to civil penalties and damages,
including termination of that licensee's license agreement." Rather than
risk any member company's license agreement, it was determined that the
educational information would be handled via PowerPoint presentations. As a
benefit to attendees at the conference, a copy of all the educational
presentations will be provided in the conference binders. This means
whether or not you attend a session, you will still be able to access the
printed information.

The conference is designed with a focus on EDUCATION. The sessions
scheduled are focused toward helping the smaller and less experienced users
with the knowledge that has been attained by the more seasoned users, while
also allowing the more seasoned users a fresh look at Vantage from a
perspective similar to that of a new user.

The other goal of the conference is to make it accessible to as many users
as possible, by keeping the conference as affordable as possible. When you
visit http://www.vantageusers.org/u4u you will see everything you get for
your registration fee (two days of education, hotel and meals), which is
highly reasonable for a gathering of this magnitude. As a non-profit
organization, VMUG expects to reinvest any potential profits back into U4U
conference.

The more attendees we have from various industries and manufacturing types,
the more comprehensive the education will be for everyone. Presently two
"unauthorized third party consulting groups" have volunteered their
personnel at no charge for teaching some of the sessions. This is to be
used as an auxiliary. If a panel or facilitator can be found from a
Vantage-using company, we would prefer and utilize them instead of the
donated consultant base.

The conference is open to any company associated with the use of Vantage,
not just VMUG members. Due to the fact that VMUG had a limited treasury to
secure a location for the event, space is limited to 250 attendees.
Therefore, registration is on a first come - first served basis.
Procrastination in registering members from your company is definitely not
advisable.

Anyone requesting information on the User 4 User Conference is strongly
encouraged to contact the following or myself directly.
Information & Registration conference@...
Education education@...

Calvin Dekker
VMUG Chairperson
calvin@...



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Calvin,
Hey Guy, Can you tell me the status of the conference. I need to plan
classroom materials and make flight reservations. I about to leave on a
weeks vacation, and there won't be much time to prepare before its
conference time.

Shirley



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Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little help. I
upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever to
load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we are on a
10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?

Thanks

Jim Carnes
IS Administrator
Kenlee Precision Corp
jcarnes@...
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230




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oops, that was supposed to be an off list message, sorry guys

Shirley




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The last email before running out the door. On vacation next week, have fun
guys.


So Sad, Too Bad, So Long, ByeBYE
Shirley



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Are you coming back? :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Gone For a week.


The last email before running out the door. On vacation next week, have fun
guys.


So Sad, Too Bad, So Long, ByeBYE
Shirley



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Jim,
We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great job of crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are all these lags related to network use and loading certain programs for the first time. I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim mentioned, the networking, etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are being plugged into the exact same cable as the Win95 machine it is replacing, but the old Win95 would run circles around the XP Pro machine in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Carnes
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little help. I
upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever to
load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we are on a
10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?

Thanks

Jim Carnes
IS Administrator
Kenlee Precision Corp
jcarnes@...
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230




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HI,
I have this week put out 10 Dell XP Pro machines 1.7 GHz and they work
great. We are still a NT4 based Domain.
I would think that lack of performance is either due to:
Upgrade of home to pro or,
changing of domain controller,
or if Antivirus software like Norton Corp. is being used, make sure it is
not scanning every networked file.

Jim Moore
GD-OTS

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Jim,
We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up
Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up
network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great job of
crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are all these
lags related to network use and loading certain programs for the first time.
I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim mentioned, the networking,
etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are being plugged into the exact
same cable as the Win95 machine it is replacing, but the old Win95 would run
circles around the XP Pro machine in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Carnes
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little help.
I
upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever to
load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we are on
a
10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?

Thanks

Jim Carnes
IS Administrator
Kenlee Precision Corp
jcarnes@...
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230




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You're right, Ted. I don't like that news. But I believe it. Speaking of
which, does anyone have a clear procedure for setting up someone's XP Pro on
the domain and getting their username/computer name set up with an account
that allows them enough access to install programs?

It seems we (I and our network Admin) have been guessing at it nearly every
time (5 by count) that we get an XP Pro in. I'd love to see someone
procedure on where you start - setting up a user, domain, passwords -- and
how do you do it while the person is still using their old computer as far
as not being able to use the same computer name (we like to use the person's
firstinitial-lastname scheme).

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Kitch" <ted@...>
To: "'Troy Funte '" <tfunte@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


> I know you won't like this news, but the only solution that I have found
> that takes care of this issue is reinstalling XP Pro after erasing
> everything from the computer. I just did an FDISK and reinstalled
> everything. After that performance was smoking!
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ted Kitch
> ted@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 7/12/2002 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
> Jim,
> We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up
> Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up
> network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great
> job of crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are
> all these lags related to network use and loading certain programs for
> the first time. I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim
> mentioned, the networking, etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are
> being plugged into the exact same cable as the Win95 machine it is
> replacing, but the old Win95 would run circles around the XP Pro machine
> in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)
>
> Troy Funte
> Liberty Electronics
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Carnes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
>
> Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little
> help. I
> upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
> performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever
> to
> load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
> controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we
> are on a
> 10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Carnes
> IS Administrator
> Kenlee Precision Corp
> jcarnes@...
> 1700 Morrell Park Ave
> Baltimore, MD 21230
>
>
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Troy,
This is usually what I do. If I am going to be using the same computer name
and we too use first initial last name. I will rename the old pc to oldjdoe
or something like that, then name the new pc jdoe. I set up new Dells with
Office already installed so all that's needed is a list of programs to
install from my pc inventory list and an ip address.
I answer the prompts XP gives you and the pc is added to a workgroup. When I
next reboot the pc I right click on my computer go to the properties and
then the change button to Join a domain. This may not be the proper way to
do it but it works for me.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


You're right, Ted. I don't like that news. But I believe it. Speaking of
which, does anyone have a clear procedure for setting up someone's XP Pro on
the domain and getting their username/computer name set up with an account
that allows them enough access to install programs?

It seems we (I and our network Admin) have been guessing at it nearly every
time (5 by count) that we get an XP Pro in. I'd love to see someone
procedure on where you start - setting up a user, domain, passwords -- and
how do you do it while the person is still using their old computer as far
as not being able to use the same computer name (we like to use the person's
firstinitial-lastname scheme).

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Kitch" <ted@...>
To: "'Troy Funte '" <tfunte@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


> I know you won't like this news, but the only solution that I have found
> that takes care of this issue is reinstalling XP Pro after erasing
> everything from the computer. I just did an FDISK and reinstalled
> everything. After that performance was smoking!
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ted Kitch
> ted@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 7/12/2002 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
> Jim,
> We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up
> Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up
> network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great
> job of crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are
> all these lags related to network use and loading certain programs for
> the first time. I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim
> mentioned, the networking, etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are
> being plugged into the exact same cable as the Win95 machine it is
> replacing, but the old Win95 would run circles around the XP Pro machine
> in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)
>
> Troy Funte
> Liberty Electronics
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Carnes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
>
> Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little
> help. I
> upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
> performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever
> to
> load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
> controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we
> are on a
> 10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Carnes
> IS Administrator
> Kenlee Precision Corp
> jcarnes@...
> 1700 Morrell Park Ave
> Baltimore, MD 21230
>
>
>
>
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Jim (Moore),
Have you had any of the 'horrible performance' described by Jim Carnes and myself in your XP Pro experience? I wonder what the missing link is there -- some don't have a problem, others have terrible 'lag' times in performance.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics
----- Original Message -----
From: Moore, Jim (Anniston)
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Troy,
This is usually what I do. If I am going to be using the same computer name
and we too use first initial last name. I will rename the old pc to oldjdoe
or something like that, then name the new pc jdoe. I set up new Dells with
Office already installed so all that's needed is a list of programs to
install from my pc inventory list and an ip address.
I answer the prompts XP gives you and the pc is added to a workgroup. When I
next reboot the pc I right click on my computer go to the properties and
then the change button to Join a domain. This may not be the proper way to
do it but it works for me.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


You're right, Ted. I don't like that news. But I believe it. Speaking of
which, does anyone have a clear procedure for setting up someone's XP Pro on
the domain and getting their username/computer name set up with an account
that allows them enough access to install programs?

It seems we (I and our network Admin) have been guessing at it nearly every
time (5 by count) that we get an XP Pro in. I'd love to see someone
procedure on where you start - setting up a user, domain, passwords -- and
how do you do it while the person is still using their old computer as far
as not being able to use the same computer name (we like to use the person's
firstinitial-lastname scheme).

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Kitch" <ted@...>
To: "'Troy Funte '" <tfunte@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


> I know you won't like this news, but the only solution that I have found
> that takes care of this issue is reinstalling XP Pro after erasing
> everything from the computer. I just did an FDISK and reinstalled
> everything. After that performance was smoking!
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ted Kitch
> ted@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 7/12/2002 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
> Jim,
> We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up
> Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up
> network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great
> job of crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are
> all these lags related to network use and loading certain programs for
> the first time. I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim
> mentioned, the networking, etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are
> being plugged into the exact same cable as the Win95 machine it is
> replacing, but the old Win95 would run circles around the XP Pro machine
> in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)
>
> Troy Funte
> Liberty Electronics
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Carnes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
>
> Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little
> help. I
> upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
> performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever
> to
> load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
> controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we
> are on a
> 10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Carnes
> IS Administrator
> Kenlee Precision Corp
> jcarnes@...
> 1700 Morrell Park Ave
> Baltimore, MD 21230
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
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>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
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> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Troy,

No, we (Myself and users) are really happy with the new systems.
Did you see my response to this post back on Friday? I mentioned a few
things it might be in it.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Jim (Moore),
Have you had any of the 'horrible performance' described by Jim Carnes
and myself in your XP Pro experience? I wonder what the missing link is
there -- some don't have a problem, others have terrible 'lag' times in
performance.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics
----- Original Message -----
From: Moore, Jim (Anniston)
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Troy,
This is usually what I do. If I am going to be using the same computer
name
and we too use first initial last name. I will rename the old pc to
oldjdoe
or something like that, then name the new pc jdoe. I set up new Dells with
Office already installed so all that's needed is a list of programs to
install from my pc inventory list and an ip address.
I answer the prompts XP gives you and the pc is added to a workgroup. When
I
next reboot the pc I right click on my computer go to the properties and
then the change button to Join a domain. This may not be the proper way to
do it but it works for me.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


You're right, Ted. I don't like that news. But I believe it. Speaking of
which, does anyone have a clear procedure for setting up someone's XP Pro
on
the domain and getting their username/computer name set up with an account
that allows them enough access to install programs?

It seems we (I and our network Admin) have been guessing at it nearly
every
time (5 by count) that we get an XP Pro in. I'd love to see someone
procedure on where you start - setting up a user, domain, passwords -- and
how do you do it while the person is still using their old computer as far
as not being able to use the same computer name (we like to use the
person's
firstinitial-lastname scheme).

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Kitch" <ted@...>
To: "'Troy Funte '" <tfunte@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


> I know you won't like this news, but the only solution that I have found
> that takes care of this issue is reinstalling XP Pro after erasing
> everything from the computer. I just did an FDISK and reinstalled
> everything. After that performance was smoking!
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ted Kitch
> ted@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 7/12/2002 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
> Jim,
> We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up
> Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up
> network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great
> job of crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are
> all these lags related to network use and loading certain programs for
> the first time. I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim
> mentioned, the networking, etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are
> being plugged into the exact same cable as the Win95 machine it is
> replacing, but the old Win95 would run circles around the XP Pro machine
> in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)
>
> Troy Funte
> Liberty Electronics
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Carnes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
>
> Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little
> help. I
> upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
> performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever
> to
> load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
> controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we
> are on a
> 10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Carnes
> IS Administrator
> Kenlee Precision Corp
> jcarnes@...
> 1700 Morrell Park Ave
> Baltimore, MD 21230
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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I did see your response. The first two don't apply to us as we didn't upgrade from XP Home, XP Pro was preinstalled. Also, we have been on Win2000 server since before the XP Pro was installed. Anti-virus could be a potential problem, and I will look into that suggestion. Thanks.

Troy

----- Original Message -----
From: Moore, Jim (Anniston)
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Troy,

No, we (Myself and users) are really happy with the new systems.
Did you see my response to this post back on Friday? I mentioned a few
things it might be in it.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Jim (Moore),
Have you had any of the 'horrible performance' described by Jim Carnes
and myself in your XP Pro experience? I wonder what the missing link is
there -- some don't have a problem, others have terrible 'lag' times in
performance.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics
----- Original Message -----
From: Moore, Jim (Anniston)
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Troy,
This is usually what I do. If I am going to be using the same computer
name
and we too use first initial last name. I will rename the old pc to
oldjdoe
or something like that, then name the new pc jdoe. I set up new Dells with
Office already installed so all that's needed is a list of programs to
install from my pc inventory list and an ip address.
I answer the prompts XP gives you and the pc is added to a workgroup. When
I
next reboot the pc I right click on my computer go to the properties and
then the change button to Join a domain. This may not be the proper way to
do it but it works for me.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


You're right, Ted. I don't like that news. But I believe it. Speaking of
which, does anyone have a clear procedure for setting up someone's XP Pro
on
the domain and getting their username/computer name set up with an account
that allows them enough access to install programs?

It seems we (I and our network Admin) have been guessing at it nearly
every
time (5 by count) that we get an XP Pro in. I'd love to see someone
procedure on where you start - setting up a user, domain, passwords -- and
how do you do it while the person is still using their old computer as far
as not being able to use the same computer name (we like to use the
person's
firstinitial-lastname scheme).

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Kitch" <ted@...>
To: "'Troy Funte '" <tfunte@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


> I know you won't like this news, but the only solution that I have found
> that takes care of this issue is reinstalling XP Pro after erasing
> everything from the computer. I just did an FDISK and reinstalled
> everything. After that performance was smoking!
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ted Kitch
> ted@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 7/12/2002 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
> Jim,
> We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up
> Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up
> network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great
> job of crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are
> all these lags related to network use and loading certain programs for
> the first time. I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim
> mentioned, the networking, etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are
> being plugged into the exact same cable as the Win95 machine it is
> replacing, but the old Win95 would run circles around the XP Pro machine
> in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)
>
> Troy Funte
> Liberty Electronics
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Carnes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
>
> Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little
> help. I
> upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
> performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever
> to
> load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
> controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we
> are on a
> 10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Carnes
> IS Administrator
> Kenlee Precision Corp
> jcarnes@...
> 1700 Morrell Park Ave
> Baltimore, MD 21230
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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The only issue I have had with XP is that the SVCHOST.EXE service takes over
the machine (90%+)CPU usage. I started having the problem after I did the
Microsoft Security update. If I stop the service the machine would run fine
after that. After about a week this problem went away.... Can anyone tell
me what the SVCHOST.exe service does exactly. Microsoft never responded
back to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Jim (Moore),
Have you had any of the 'horrible performance' described by Jim Carnes
and myself in your XP Pro experience? I wonder what the missing link is
there -- some don't have a problem, others have terrible 'lag' times in
performance.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics
----- Original Message -----
From: Moore, Jim (Anniston)
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


Troy,
This is usually what I do. If I am going to be using the same computer
name
and we too use first initial last name. I will rename the old pc to
oldjdoe
or something like that, then name the new pc jdoe. I set up new Dells with
Office already installed so all that's needed is a list of programs to
install from my pc inventory list and an ip address.
I answer the prompts XP gives you and the pc is added to a workgroup. When
I
next reboot the pc I right click on my computer go to the properties and
then the change button to Join a domain. This may not be the proper way to
do it but it works for me.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


You're right, Ted. I don't like that news. But I believe it. Speaking of
which, does anyone have a clear procedure for setting up someone's XP Pro
on
the domain and getting their username/computer name set up with an account
that allows them enough access to install programs?

It seems we (I and our network Admin) have been guessing at it nearly
every
time (5 by count) that we get an XP Pro in. I'd love to see someone
procedure on where you start - setting up a user, domain, passwords -- and
how do you do it while the person is still using their old computer as far
as not being able to use the same computer name (we like to use the
person's
firstinitial-lastname scheme).

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Kitch" <ted@...>
To: "'Troy Funte '" <tfunte@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


> I know you won't like this news, but the only solution that I have found
> that takes care of this issue is reinstalling XP Pro after erasing
> everything from the computer. I just did an FDISK and reinstalled
> everything. After that performance was smoking!
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ted Kitch
> ted@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 7/12/2002 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
> Jim,
> We have found the same issue with XP Pro machines as well. Beefed up
> Dells with 256MB of RAM and there are LONG pauses in trying to open up
> network folders, and even do local things on the PC. It does a great
> job of crunching an Excel Macro in about 1/3 of the time, but there are
> all these lags related to network use and loading certain programs for
> the first time. I would love to hear a solution as well. (As Jim
> mentioned, the networking, etc. seems to be fine. These XP machines are
> being plugged into the exact same cable as the Win95 machine it is
> replacing, but the old Win95 would run circles around the XP Pro machine
> in doing file transfers and opening Apps.)
>
> Troy Funte
> Liberty Electronics
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Carnes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade
>
>
> Hoping someone has seen this before..Microsoft.com has been little
> help. I
> upgraded 3 Dell machines from XP Home to Pro. After the upgrade the
> performance both network and local is horrible. Profiles take forever
> to
> load and apps run ridiculously slow. I also just added a 2000 Domain
> controller if that would make a difference. Cabling is fine and we
> are on a
> 10/100 switch with 100bt connections. Anyone ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Carnes
> IS Administrator
> Kenlee Precision Corp
> jcarnes@...
> 1700 Morrell Park Ave
> Baltimore, MD 21230
>
>
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Check out Microsoft Knowledge Base article "A Description of Svchost.exe in
Windows XP [Q314056]"

Bob Bruton


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Collins [mailto:bcollins@...]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Horrible Performance after XP Pro Upgrade


The only issue I have had with XP is that the SVCHOST.EXE service takes over
the machine (90%+)CPU usage. I started having the problem after I did the
Microsoft Security update. If I stop the service the machine would run fine
after that. After about a week this problem went away.... Can anyone tell
me what the SVCHOST.exe service does exactly. Microsoft never responded
back to me.



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I was curious about this myself. I found the answer in MS KB "A Description
of Svchost.exe in Windows XP [Q314056]"

The only other articles I found on svchost in WinXP have to do with know
issues with specific programs. However, being as svchost looks after the
DLLs, I would say the problem is probably being caused by a bad DLL
somewhere.

Brian Boyes,
Systems Administrator,
Precision Resource Canada Ltd.
<http://www.precisionresource.com>
<mailto:brianb@...>

> -----Original Message-----
> The only issue I have had with XP is that the SVCHOST.EXE
> service takes over
> the machine (90%+)CPU usage. I started having the problem
> after I did the
> Microsoft Security update. If I stop the service the machine
> would run fine
> after that. After about a week this problem went away....
> Can anyone tell
> me what the SVCHOST.exe service does exactly. Microsoft
> never responded back to me..
I just want to congratulate Calvin on the success of the User 4 User
Conference held in Chicago last week.

Due to the fact that there were several instructor cancelations, I
want to thank Calvin Dekker and Katharine Barry for presenting many of
the sessions (with very short notice to get their materials together).

I also want to thank all of the other presenters who gave of their
time to make this conference a success.

There was quite a bit of information exchanged between users during
this two-day conference and I felt that this conference was well worth
the time and money to attend.

I definitely will plan on attending this conference next year, which
by the way has tentatively been scheduled for May 2006.

Kathy Schaich
Ultra Tool & Mfg, Inc.