V 5.0 upgrade

Hi John,
Interesting comments!
JFI.....
Over here in the UK we only have about 60 Vantage
users with no more than half dozen on V3, and as far
as I'm aware no-one live yet on V5 - we're all
watching you guys!!!!. There is some similar concern
over here since many users are small jobshops -
exactly the reason why they bought Vantage in the
first place, although medium size companies like
ourselves are looking forward to the coming
enhancements with V5/5.1

Mike Kerwin
Business Support Manager
Cooper Crouse-Hinds(UK)Ltd
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--- johnmemjr@... wrote: > Does anyone
have any stats on how many people are
> still running 3.0 to 4.0 to
> 5.0. I know I am still running 3.0 and it is OK. I
> really have no desire to
> upgrade to another release, have the employees lose
> confidence in Vantage
> product, Epicor as a company, and myself as an IT
> professional who
> recommended this product.
>
> I feel that Epicor is falling down on the job. If I
> shipped machinery to
> customers who had this many problems, I would be out
> of business in less than
> 1 year.
>
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Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
and V 5.0 ?

I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson
We have 5.0 on a project server and practiced a little bit waiting for the
majority of "bugs" to be ironed out before going "live".

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Anderson [SMTP:tanderson@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:55 PM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
>
> Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
> and V 5.0 ?
>
> I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
> seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the
> purpose
> of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson
>
>
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We went live on 5.0 Feb 10th.

Ron Newell


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade

Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
and V 5.0 ?

I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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We're still on 3.0 and have only kicked the tires a few times on 4.0. Version 5.0 is still in the box in a drawer.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Anderson
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade


Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
and V 5.0 ?

I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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Todd;

We are on V 4.0. Likely will remain here for a while. We have bought into
Calvin Dekker's group EDI project which is written for V 4.0 There are
things we are interested in, in V 5.0 but sounds like the bugs aren't worked
out far enough yet. Once the EDI programs are ported to V 5.0 and more of
the bugs are out we'll move.



Warren R. Eddy

Information Services Manager

National Tube Form, LLC

An Excaliber Company

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phone - 219 478-2363 ext 217

fax - 219 478-1043



Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,

and V 5.0 ?



I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It

seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose

of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.



Thanks,



Todd Anderson



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Todd:

We are 3.0

I'm installing 4.0 now; hope to go live in one week.

Want to go to 5.0, but still have nervous feelings. (Epicor says that Joe is using Terminal Server and that's the reason for Data Collection headaches for that type of user).

So I'm up in the air. Really want 5.0 to get the costing improvement going...

Rick Gors
MR/MMIS
Osco


Todd Anderson wrote:

> Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
> and V 5.0 ?
>
> I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
> seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
> of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson
>
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We went to 5.0 on Feb 17th

Erica Steffens


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade


Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
and V 5.0 ?

I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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We went to 5.0 on Feb 24th.

Steven Beals

-----Original Message-----
From: Erica Steffens [mailto:ESteffens@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:28 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade


We went to 5.0 on Feb 17th

Erica Steffens


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade


Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V
4.0,
and V 5.0 ?

I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the
purpose
of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live
systems.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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V4.0 here since conversion from Classic in Sept.
I highly doubt we will even think of 5.0 before next Sept.
This will depend greatly on bug situation..
No way that I could ever get a "test" system approved.
Especially when people are still sharing desktops PCs.
-Todd C.
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade


Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
and V 5.0 ?

I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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Rick Gors wrote:
>
> Todd:
>
> We are 3.0
>
> I'm installing 4.0 now; hope to go live in one week.
>
> Want to go to 5.0, but still have nervous feelings. (Epicor says that Joe is using Terminal Server and that's the reason for Data Collection headaches for that type of user).

Data collection is a bug that has a work around though. Try posting
a standard cost rollup... Try creating a job that has the same job
number that MRP will someday use... Try to get a discrepant qty to
backflush material... Try to run a labor edit report in under 20
minutes... Try to print a standard cost replace edit list in less
than 10 hours... Try to print a ledger that doesn't double space
and take 500 sheets of paper...

> So I'm up in the air. Really want 5.0 to get the costing improvement going...
>
> Rick Gors
> MR/MMIS
> Osco
>
> Todd Anderson wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
> > and V 5.0 ?
> >
> > I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
> > seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
> > of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Todd Anderson
> >
> >
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Still on V 3.0, will move to V 4.00 1 month.
Mike


>From: Todd Anderson <tanderson@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: "'vantage@yahoogroups.com'" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
>Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:55:21 -0600
>
>Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
>and V 5.0 ?


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OH! I get it. You want the upgrade A N D you want it to work too? Isn't
that asking too much?

You only spent a bazillion dollars for maintenance. If you install V5 now,
think how grateful and happy
you'll be when the finally do come out with the fixes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade



Data collection is a bug that has a work around though. Try posting
a standard cost rollup... Try creating a job that has the same job
number that MRP will someday use... Try to get a discrepant qty to
backflush material... Try to run a labor edit report in under 20
minutes... Try to print a standard cost replace edit list in less
than 10 hours... Try to print a ledger that doesn't double space
and take 500 sheets of paper...





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Rick Gors wrote:
>
> Todd:
>
> We are 3.0
>
> I'm installing 4.0 now; hope to go live in one week.
>
> Want to go to 5.0, but still have nervous feelings. (Epicor says that Joe is using Terminal Server and that's the reason for Data Collection headaches for that type of user).


Plus this isn't true. I know of at least one other user that
has the same problem and isn't using terminal server. Care
to comment Ronny?


> So I'm up in the air. Really want 5.0 to get the costing improvement going...
>
> Rick Gors
> MR/MMIS
> Osco
>
> Todd Anderson wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
> > and V 5.0 ?
> >
> > I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
> > seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the purpose
> > of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Todd Anderson
> >
> >
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I wonder what happened to all the beta testers? Did the new version work for
all of them?

HUH?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Bruton [SMTP:bob@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:33 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
>
> OH! I get it. You want the upgrade A N D you want it to work too? Isn't
> that asking too much?
>
> You only spent a bazillion dollars for maintenance. If you install V5
> now,
> think how grateful and happy
> you'll be when the finally do come out with the fixes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:22 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
>
>
>
> Data collection is a bug that has a work around though. Try posting
> a standard cost rollup... Try creating a job that has the same job
> number that MRP will someday use... Try to get a discrepant qty to
> backflush material... Try to run a labor edit report in under 20
> minutes... Try to print a standard cost replace edit list in less
> than 10 hours... Try to print a ledger that doesn't double space
> and take 500 sheets of paper...
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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We were going to upgrade to 5.0 (from 4.0) last weekend, but I'm putting it
off until
April 21 because we are FINALLY getting another server! We have 1 server
and have everything from AutoCAD, MasterCAM, Calendar software, Translation
software, to Vantage on it. I sent out a memo to everyone that explained
the bugs with 5.0 and that the installation will make the server very slow
while it is running. Then I also explained that our server is running out
of resources, so after the upgrade the whole network would run slower.
Needless to say this worried the people who keep track of our $$$$ at work.
So, we're getting another server! Yeah for us!!

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
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----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Anderson <tanderson@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade


> Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
> and V 5.0 ?
>
> I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
> seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the
purpose
> of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson
>
>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
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>
In general...

1. Beta testers don't test everything.
2. Beta testers may not have a large database like ours.
3. Beta testers don't necessarily want to test the software
as much as they just want to get a sneek peak at it.

Robert Kula wrote:
>
> I wonder what happened to all the beta testers? Did the new version work for
> all of them?
>
> HUH?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Bruton [SMTP:bob@...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:33 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
> >
> > OH! I get it. You want the upgrade A N D you want it to work too? Isn't
> > that asking too much?
> >
> > You only spent a bazillion dollars for maintenance. If you install V5
> > now,
> > think how grateful and happy
> > you'll be when the finally do come out with the fixes.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:22 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
> >
> >
> >
> > Data collection is a bug that has a work around though. Try posting
> > a standard cost rollup... Try creating a job that has the same job
> > number that MRP will someday use... Try to get a discrepant qty to
> > backflush material... Try to run a labor edit report in under 20
> > minutes... Try to print a standard cost replace edit list in less
> > than 10 hours... Try to print a ledger that doesn't double space
> > and take 500 sheets of paper...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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Todd

Running 4.00.901
Reviewing 5.0 on test network.
Reading about 5.0 patches.
Hearing about 5.1 releasing soon.
Thinking about 6.0 focus groups.
What was the question again?
We went live last Monday. Really sorry we did. Nothing but problems.

Jamie

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Newell [SMTP:rnewell@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:03 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
>
> We went live on 5.0 Feb 10th.
>
> Ron Newell
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:55 PM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
>
> Does anyone have any specs on how many customers are running V 3.0, V 4.0,
> and V 5.0 ?
>
> I'm curious how many companies are actually 'Live' on each version. It
> seems like many people have installed V 5.0 on test machines for the
> purpose
> of kicking the tires and have not yet installed it on their live systems.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson
>
>
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---OPEN LETTER TO EPICOR---
Lets face facts!! Version 5 was an extremely poor rollout from a
company such as Epicor and it should have never been shipped. I may
never install it. I would expect this from a shareware program but
not a $100,000.00 software package. Hey Epicor who do you think is
buying your software? Most of us don't have time for all of this
bull and that's why we bought your product in the first place. WISE
UP or start losing your market, it's your choice!

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:14:29 -0500
From: Joe Konecny <jkonecn@...>
Subject: Re: V 5.0 upgrade

In general...

1. Beta testers don't test everything.
2. Beta testers may not have a large database like ours.
3. Beta testers don't necessarily want to test the software
as much as they just want to get a sneek peak at it.

Robert Kula wrote:
>
> I wonder what happened to all the beta testers? Did the new version
work for
> all of them?
>
> HUH?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Bruton [SMTP:bob@...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:33 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
> >
> > OH! I get it. You want the upgrade A N D you want it to work
too? Isn't
> > that asking too much?
> >
> > You only spent a bazillion dollars for maintenance. If you
install V5
> > now,
> > think how grateful and happy
> > you'll be when the finally do come out with the fixes.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:22 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] V 5.0 upgrade
> >
> >
> >
> > Data collection is a bug that has a work around though. Try
posting
> > a standard cost rollup... Try creating a job that has the same
job
> > number that MRP will someday use... Try to get a discrepant qty
to
> > backflush material... Try to run a labor edit report in under 20
> > minutes... Try to print a standard cost replace edit list in less
> > than 10 hours... Try to print a ledger that doesn't double space
> > and take 500 sheets of paper...