V5 - Cleaning up Aged Receivables report. (for the bean counter

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Goodness that isn't good. I guess it depends on what is actually
happening or happened. You could do a debit and/or a credit for each
customer that is off then do a JE to move the net effect on sales to
some doubtful account type account. But I would probably do it all in
the current month. Hard to decide without seeing what all actually
happened.



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Of Shirley Graver
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] V5 - Cleaning up Aged Receivables report. (for
the bean counters)



Clearly I am not an accounting person, both are messed up but I'm
focusing
on the Accounts Receivable.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associate

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You say both AR and AP are messy or just one? AR in the Subject but AP
in the text.

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Subject: [Vantage] V5 - Cleaning up Aged Receivables report. (for the
bean counters)

Due to a host of people cycling through our accounting dept (18 in all)
our
AP report needs cleaned up. Most of these items are in closed periods.
Many customers have balancing credits / debits that were never correctly
applied or not applied to each other. Some have credits that will Never
be
applied, some have debits that will never be collected. Presently, we
have
some reasonably skilled people that have things in balance. What
approach/approaches can we use to clear off these old entries without
screwing up the current state of the GL.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates

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Hello,



We need to purchase PCs to run MES on the shop floor.

I was looking at the Dell Dimension 3100 because it was selling for a
good price and I was able to get the specs that I wanted.



I decided to call Dell to see if I could get some kind of volume
discount and the sales rep started giving this long list of reason why
the Dimensions are not ideal for this use and why I should get the
OptiPlex instead.



Has anyone used Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection? If so, which model did
you use? Is there anything to this sales rep's rant or will I be ok with
Dimensions?



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



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Joe,

I would suggest you look at the differences between the two boxes.
If you don't see anything in the Optiplex that you are going to
need/use, buy what you want.
I have 14 Dimension 3000's


Regards
Rich

Joe Rojas wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We need to purchase PCs to run MES on the shop floor.
>
> I was looking at the Dell Dimension 3100 because it was selling for a
> good price and I was able to get the specs that I wanted.
>
> I decided to call Dell to see if I could get some kind of volume
> discount and the sales rep started giving this long list of reason why
> the Dimensions are not ideal for this use and why I should get the
> OptiPlex instead.
>
> Has anyone used Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection? If so, which model did
> you use? Is there anything to this sales rep's rant or will I be ok with
> Dimensions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> IT Manager
>
> TNCO, Inc.
>
> 781-447-6661 x7506
>
> jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Joe,

We chose OptiPlex over Dimension for the longer support cycle. Since we
buy new PCs frequently, having a consistent hardware configuration for a
longer time is of far more value than single-point savings. We image
new incoming PCs using Ghost and NewSID, then roll out to the user.

We found the hardware variation even within the same Dimension
family/model to be problematic from a support standpoint.

On the other hand, if you're company is like most manufacturers, your
new PC budget was dug up from change in the sofa and pennies found in
the parking lot, then by all means buy as cheaply as you can. You're
not likely to get another PC for a long long time. And since the value
of your time is of little consequence, who cares if it takes three hours
to configure each new PC?

have fun,
john




Joe Rojas wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> We need to purchase PCs to run MES on the shop floor.
>
> I was looking at the Dell Dimension 3100 because it was selling for a
> good price and I was able to get the specs that I wanted.
>
> I decided to call Dell to see if I could get some kind of volume
> discount and the sales rep started giving this long list of reason why
> the Dimensions are not ideal for this use and why I should get the
> OptiPlex instead.
>
> Has anyone used Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection? If so, which model did
> you use? Is there anything to this sales rep's rant or will I be ok with
> Dimensions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Rojas
5
Joe, it's a good question. Dell does some marketing things with their
various desktop lines that are purely a profit play - the Precision
workstation line is a good example. In most cases, you can configure a
Dimension, Optiplex or Precision to perform exactly the same right their
on the Dell website. The difference being the price.

If you use imaging software such as Ghost to install your OS and you
want to minimize the number of images to keep up with, the Optiplex will
change less frequently. This is probably the biggest concern so it is
dependent on your environment.

Brad


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> We need to purchase PCs to run MES on the shop floor.
>
> I was looking at the Dell Dimension 3100 because it was selling for a
> good price and I was able to get the specs that I wanted.
>
>
>
> I decided to call Dell to see if I could get some kind of volume
> discount and the sales rep started giving this long list of reason why
> the Dimensions are not ideal for this use and why I should get the
> OptiPlex instead.
>
>
>
> Has anyone used Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection? If so, which model
did
> you use? Is there anything to this sales rep's rant or will I be ok
with
> Dimensions?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> IT Manager
>
> TNCO, Inc.
>
> 781-447-6661 x7506
>
> jrojas@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Due to a host of people cycling through our accounting dept (18 in all) our
AP report needs cleaned up. Most of these items are in closed periods.
Many customers have balancing credits / debits that were never correctly
applied or not applied to each other. Some have credits that will Never be
applied, some have debits that will never be collected. Presently, we have
some reasonably skilled people that have things in balance. What
approach/approaches can we use to clear off these old entries without
screwing up the current state of the GL.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates


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We have been live on 8.0 since January; I have 5 computers on the
shop floor running MES that are Dell Dimension 3000s. I have not
had any problems with any of them.



Norman Hutchins Jr.

Network Administrator



Howell Laboratories, Inc.



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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection



Hello,

We need to purchase PCs to run MES on the shop floor.

I was looking at the Dell Dimension 3100 because it was selling
for a
good price and I was able to get the specs that I wanted.

I decided to call Dell to see if I could get some kind of volume
discount and the sales rep started giving this long list of
reason why
the Dimensions are not ideal for this use and why I should get
the
OptiPlex instead.

Has anyone used Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection? If so, which
model did
you use? Is there anything to this sales rep's rant or will I be
ok with
Dimensions?

Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@tnco- <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> inc.com

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Thanks for everyone's responses!



John,



When you say that you've found hardware variations among the same
Dimension family/model, did you find this to be true within a single
purchase or across multiple purchases?



I wonder if I were to by 5 computers today, would they all be the same?



I want to image these computers and I can deal with one image per lot
but if I have to keep an image for every computer I purchase, then this
might change my outlook.



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Sage
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:24 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection



Joe,

We chose OptiPlex over Dimension for the longer support cycle. Since we
buy new PCs frequently, having a consistent hardware configuration for a

longer time is of far more value than single-point savings. We image
new incoming PCs using Ghost and NewSID, then roll out to the user.

We found the hardware variation even within the same Dimension
family/model to be problematic from a support standpoint.

On the other hand, if you're company is like most manufacturers, your
new PC budget was dug up from change in the sofa and pennies found in
the parking lot, then by all means buy as cheaply as you can. You're
not likely to get another PC for a long long time. And since the value
of your time is of little consequence, who cares if it takes three hours

to configure each new PC?

have fun,
john






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Anything works for DC. But we've had better luck overall with optiplexes.
-Gary Polvinale Denton ATD.
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Joe Rojas
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection



Hello,

We need to purchase PCs to run MES on the shop floor.

I was looking at the Dell Dimension 3100 because it was selling for a
good price and I was able to get the specs that I wanted.

I decided to call Dell to see if I could get some kind of volume
discount and the sales rep started giving this long list of reason why
the Dimensions are not ideal for this use and why I should get the
OptiPlex instead.

Has anyone used Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection? If so, which model did
you use? Is there anything to this sales rep's rant or will I be ok with
Dimensions?

Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@tnco- <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com> inc.com

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Joe,

They would most likely be the same. We would find variation among
Dimensions month by month, but the Optiplexes have (used to have?) and
18-month cycle. Being the low-margin leader, the Dimensions are
probably source aggressively. That said, we had few problems with
Dimensions other than the fact I had to keep several full images or a
sysprep image (longer to deploy). Being a two-man department, our time
is pretty valuable to us, so we strive for consistency across hardware
and software configurations. One additional advantage to the Optiplex
line is that you have the ability to centrally deploy BIOS and firmware
updates via Dell's client instrumentation - we've done this to resolve
APCI issues.

have fun,
john



Joe Rojas wrote:
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>
> I wonder if I were to by 5 computers today, would they all be the same?
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Thanks for the input John!



I think that I am going to go with the Dimensions. The argument is
strong for the OptiPlex but for us, at this time, the added cost doesn't
seem to out way the added benefit.

As an FYI, I was able to add the OpenManage Client Instrumentation to
the Dimension.



Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Sage
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Dell PCs for MES/Data Collection



Joe,

They would most likely be the same. We would find variation among
Dimensions month by month, but the Optiplexes have (used to have?) and
18-month cycle. Being the low-margin leader, the Dimensions are
probably source aggressively. That said, we had few problems with
Dimensions other than the fact I had to keep several full images or a
sysprep image (longer to deploy). Being a two-man department, our time
is pretty valuable to us, so we strive for consistency across hardware
and software configurations. One additional advantage to the Optiplex
line is that you have the ability to centrally deploy BIOS and firmware
updates via Dell's client instrumentation - we've done this to resolve
APCI issues.

have fun,
john

Joe Rojas wrote:
>
>
> I wonder if I were to by 5 computers today, would they all be the
same?





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You say both AR and AP are messy or just one? AR in the Subject but AP
in the text.



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Graver
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] V5 - Cleaning up Aged Receivables report. (for the
bean counters)



Due to a host of people cycling through our accounting dept (18 in all)
our
AP report needs cleaned up. Most of these items are in closed periods.
Many customers have balancing credits / debits that were never correctly
applied or not applied to each other. Some have credits that will Never
be
applied, some have debits that will never be collected. Presently, we
have
some reasonably skilled people that have things in balance. What
approach/approaches can we use to clear off these old entries without
screwing up the current state of the GL.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates

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Clearly I am not an accounting person, both are messed up but I'm focusing
on the Accounts Receivable.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associate

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You say both AR and AP are messy or just one? AR in the Subject but AP
in the text.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
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Of Shirley Graver
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] V5 - Cleaning up Aged Receivables report. (for the
bean counters)

Due to a host of people cycling through our accounting dept (18 in all)
our
AP report needs cleaned up. Most of these items are in closed periods.
Many customers have balancing credits / debits that were never correctly
applied or not applied to each other. Some have credits that will Never
be
applied, some have debits that will never be collected. Presently, we
have
some reasonably skilled people that have things in balance. What
approach/approaches can we use to clear off these old entries without
screwing up the current state of the GL.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates

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