V8.03.305K - BPM/Customization Weirdness - Solved

This is an old thread but just wanted to thank you guys for this information. I was really banging my head against the wall on this.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> > Changing the propath for the pilot database appservers was the solution
> > support just suggested for me when I emailed them. You just need to make
> > sure it still ends in 'bpm' and then vantage knows that's where to dump
> > the bpm stuff...
>
> Ah, support failed to mention the folder must end in 'BPM' for it to work
> because I was unable to get that solution to work for me which is why I came
> up with the alternative solution.
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Mark W.
>
It turns out that when you create a BPM through Vantage, it creates a .p
and a .r file.

What happened to me was that I created a BPM in Pilot and then later
overwrote pilot with the latest version of live, which has no listing of
that BPM which is why I couldn't see it.

I move the .p and .r file out of \epicor\mfgsys803\bpm\bo and the BPM no
longer processes!





Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical New Bedford

P: 508.998.4575

C:508.838.4717

F:508.995.9597

joe.rojas@... <mailto:joe.rojas@...>



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rojas, Joe
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] V8.03.305K - BPM/Customization Weirdness



Hi All,

When adding a line, of type inventory, to a PO the Lock field on the
Release tab automatically is checked. If I then uncheck the box and then
save the PO, it gets rechecked.

I called tech support and they said that this is not by design. They
transferred me to the tech group but had to leave a voicemail.

I remember trying to create a BPM that would do this very thing but I
thought I didn't get anywhere with it.

So, I loaded the PO form in base mode, to rule out a customization, and
it still happened.

I looked to see if I have any Method Directives for the PO object and
there are none.

Now I'm just shaking my head.

I had a few questions I wanted to ask the group while I wait for tech
support to call me back.

First, has anyone experienced this before?

Are BPMs restricted to a databases? For example, if I create a BPM in
Pilot, will it affect my live DB?

How are BPMs processed? Is there a sub system that manages BPMs that
maybe I can restart?

Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical New Bedford

P: 508.998.4575

C:508.838.4717

F:508.995.9597

joe.rojas@... <mailto:joe.rojas%40symmetrynb.com> <mailto:
joe.rojas@... <mailto:joe.rojas%40symmetrynb.com> >

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Thanks Joe - we also found that my test BPMs in PILOT were running on
the LIVE database. Now I know why. I feel an enhancement request coming
on!



kind regards



Debbie Stokes

Vantage Administrator

Hilo-PSS Group

01793 647136



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Joe writes:

> It turns out that when you create a BPM through Vantage, it creates a .p
> and a .r file.
>
> What happened to me was that I created a BPM in Pilot and then later
> overwrote pilot with the latest version of live, which has no listing of
> that BPM which is why I couldn't see it.
>
> I move the .p and .r file out of \epicor\mfgsys803\bpm\bo and the BPM no
> longer processes!

Yes, these buggers run everywhere! For Pilot vs. Live, I believe there's a
place to say "Run for this company only" and it won't run in other
databases.

HOWEVER, if your Test database is a copy of your Live (like ours) then this
isn't so helpful because the company id's are the same. What is different is
the company name. (We change ours to *******TEST********) to make it easy to
spot in the forms.

To prevent a BPM from running in Live, we add a precondition checking a
query for the number of records > 0:

For first company where subscript(company.Name, 1, 3) = '***'

If so, then it's Test and the BPM only runs in test. I'm doing this from
memory, so write back if it doesn't work.

Mark W.
You can also configure the propath for the appservers to be different
locations for the bpm folder.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: 03 July 2008 11:57
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] V8.03.305K - BPM/Customization Weirdness - Solved

Joe writes:

> It turns out that when you create a BPM through Vantage, it creates a
.p
> and a .r file.
>
> What happened to me was that I created a BPM in Pilot and then later
> overwrote pilot with the latest version of live, which has no listing
of
> that BPM which is why I couldn't see it.
>
> I move the .p and .r file out of \epicor\mfgsys803\bpm\bo and the BPM
no
> longer processes!

Yes, these buggers run everywhere! For Pilot vs. Live, I believe there's
a
place to say "Run for this company only" and it won't run in other
databases.

HOWEVER, if your Test database is a copy of your Live (like ours) then
this
isn't so helpful because the company id's are the same. What is
different is
the company name. (We change ours to *******TEST********) to make it
easy to
spot in the forms.

To prevent a BPM from running in Live, we add a precondition checking a
query for the number of records > 0:

For first company where subscript(company.Name, 1, 3) = '***'

If so, then it's Test and the BPM only runs in test. I'm doing this from
memory, so write back if it doesn't work.

Mark W.

__._,_._



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Thanks both,



Changing the propath for the pilot database appservers was the solution
support just suggested for me when I emailed them. You just need to make
sure it still ends in 'bpm' and then vantage knows that's where to dump
the bpm stuff...



kind regards



Debbie Stokes

Vantage Administrator

Hilo-PSS Group

01793 647136



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> Changing the propath for the pilot database appservers was the solution
> support just suggested for me when I emailed them. You just need to make
> sure it still ends in 'bpm' and then vantage knows that's where to dump
> the bpm stuff...

Ah, support failed to mention the folder must end in 'BPM' for it to work
because I was unable to get that solution to work for me which is why I came
up with the alternative solution.

Thanks!!!

Mark W.