Vantage 8.0 Survey

Ron,

Creating the new report definition is not that hard, they give you
the ability to copy the old over and modify it. You can add fields,
and even use the related tables functionality to add fields from
other tables (example, a code is on the report, you want to display
the text description from the code master file). You've got to be
careful in the report definition maintenance program, as there's
bugs in it (click on table A and it doesn't show right; click on
table B, then back on table A, then it's correct).

The only issue I have is when you've got data that Vantage would
think is unrelated, and you may need to create subreports (example,
we grab data from the sales order for the job traveler). However,
this is more a result of the way we do business than anything I'd
expect the software to do.

Kevin Simon

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "swinky68" <swinky68@...> wrote:
>
> There's one section missing from these instructions. In step 23,
> it's been my experience that the only fields you can add to the
> report are fields that are brought over with the original report
> definition. Otherwise, you have to create a new report definition
> with the additional fields, and that has to be done as a different
> definition unless you have a SDK license. Just more fun from
Epicor!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Cole
> IT Manager, IED Inc.
> rcole@...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Kelly Potratz <kpotratz_05@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Here is the document I received from support for modifying
> existing Crystal Reports. One step is missing, and that is you
have
> to run the report you want to modify before you start any of the
> other steps.
> >
> > Summary: CR Modifying an existing form in 8.0
> > Book: Support Solutions
> > Page: 4778MPS
> > Crystal 10 XML Modify
> > Page ID 4778
> > Problem:
> > How do I modify an existing form with Crystal 10 and
> Vantage/Vista 8.0 and add it to the Report Style Maintenance as
the
> default form?
> > Resolution:
> > Steps for Modifying an Existing Report in Version 8.x
> > ***Note*** As always, print or preview the standard Crystal
> Report first before following these steps.
> > 1. Open Crystal Reports 10 for Epicor MFG.
> > 2. Choose the radio button for Open an Existing Report.
> > 3. Double-click on More Files in the window.
> > 4. It should automatically open to your Epicor\Mfgsys80
> \Server\Reports folder.
> > 5. If not, Browse to that location.
> > 6. Double-click on the rpt file you wish to modify, for this
> example, we will use the PackSlip.rpt.
> > 7. It should open up in Crystal version 10.
> > 8. Go up to File -> Save As -> and give this report a new name
> because it will be your newly modified form.
> > 9. Save into this directory, or a subdirectory of this Reports
> folder.
> > 10. Go up to Database -> Set Datasource Location, that screen
> now appears.
> > 11. In the top section, Current Datasource, click on the +
sign
> to the left of Properties.
> > 12. Notice the File Path is incorrect, highlight the File Path
> Properties.
> > 13. In the bottom section, Replace With, click on + sign to
the
> left of Create New Connection.
> > 14. Click on the + sign to the left of ADO.NET (XML), the
> ADO.NET (XML) browse window appears.
> > 15. In the File Path, click on the button and browse to the
> Epicor\MfgsysData\Reports\(Your login ID) ie. Manager 16. Find the
> report that was just printed before you started this process. i.e.
> Packing Slip Print 01249.XML, and double-click on it.
> > 17. The File Path should now be populated with the correct
> location of the XML file.
> > 18. Click on Finish, then Close.
> > 19. Go back up to Database -> Verify Database, the original
> Connection screen pops up.
> > 20. Click on the button again.
> > 21. This time it will bring up the (Your login ID)Manager\
> folder, double-click the Packing Slip Print 01249.XML again.
> > 22. A message should appear, "Database is up to Date".
> > 23. You are now ready to add fields to the report through the
> Field Explorer.
> > 24. Don't forget to Save changes when finished with the
> modifications and additions.
> >
> > Steps for Adding your Modified Form to the Report Style
> Maintenance
> > 1. Log into your database.
> > 2. Under System Management -> Company Maintenance -> Report
> Style.
> > 3. Click on Report ID button -> Then Search button.
> > 4. Double-click on Packing Slip or the Standard report you
just
> modified.
> > 5. Click on the Styles tab.
> > 6. Over to the left, you will see a Tree view of your Packing
> Slip Style(s).
> > 7. Click on the New button on the Tool bar at the top upper
> right corner.
> > 8. Use the drop down, and select New Report Style.
> > 9. In the Report Maintenance, fill in a Description, and it
will
> automatically fill the Tree view left side with that information.
> > 10. Fill in Report Location Reports\ModifiedPackSlip.rpt.
> > 11. Click on the Save button in the tool bar at the top.
> > 12. The bottom half of the Report Maintenance populates with
all
> companies and check boxes for valid or default, and check all that
> would apply.
> > 13. Save changes, exit out of Report Style Maintenance.
> > 14. Go into Shipping and Receiving, and once you hit the Print
> button, the modified Packing Slip that you set as default is
there.
> > 15. You are now printing your modified form.
> >
> >
Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


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I had the same question. We are planning on going live on Vantage 8.0
on April 1st. We are planning on having a readiness assessment this
weekend. So far it is not what we expected. We are running into many
issues. We are also doing many modifications to the system.





Cheryl Connolly

651-697-7106



UV Color, Inc.

cconnolly@... <mailto:cconnolly@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey



Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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We are still implementing 8.0 with plans to go live on July 1st, 2006.
We are on the latest patch, 806C, and don't have any major show-stoppers, however we will be basically starting with a "fresh" system and won't be doing very much data conversion, which may or may not attribute to some of our luck so far.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
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-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey

Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Live since November 2005.

Currently 806B

Buggy, but nothing major.



IMO, the more customers who upgrade to 8.0, the more resources Epicor
will commit to it.



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey



Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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We have been on 8.0 since May of last year. It has been an uphill
battle, but I will say that the 806 patch has been the first patch
installed that doesn't appear to have broken anything. We are only
using Sales, some Materials, and Financials. It is slower than 6.1, but
has the ability to be extremely flexible. It will be much better if
they can get the speed improved - especially in printing Crystal
reports.



Steven Comeau

Manager, Corporate IT Systems

Main Tape

1 Capital Drive, Suite 101

Cranbury, NJ 08512

800-718-8273 x332

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From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey



Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Because there is so much new to V8, we are going to begin testing in
June
And plan to replace some hardware (clients) in the 4th quarter to be in
a position to
Go live 1st quarter 07. We also want to select which
customers/vendors/part Numbers go
Into V8 as we have data going back to 1996. I have been informed that
Epior is working
On an import utility where you can export data out of your current
system to load into
Vantage 8. We will be wanting that. For us, this will be a good time
to clean up the
Garbage in our system.
We went live on Jan 1st. We have had non-show stopping issues, though
they are less than expected. We have several custom mods running. They
were slow to be developed... but they do work. Un-fortunately these
modifications delay our upgrading to the latest version until custom
programming has blessed them. We are on 804A. As you can imagine, every
call to support is answered with "your not on the latest
version..sorry". Virtually every call to support gets closed without my
approval or any conclusion.

I like the software, I dislike the support.

Tom Morrison
Load Rite Trailers, Inc.


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From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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I would strongly "second the motion" for an import utility to allow selective weeding out of obsolete data. I just ran a report of customers with no activity in many years and, if we could, we would like to purge them and all their history (attched table records like orders/invoices, etc...). Selecting what to add to a new 8.0 database would be very helpful.

As for 8.0 we are a LONG ways from it and very interested in this thread because once we deem it stable enough to even look at our long implementation process should give time for anything else to shake out.

Tentative plan:
Aug '06 - Convene investigation team
Sep '06 - Install 8.0 on test server and bring over database
Oct.'06 - Try dashboard queries, screen mods and other new features before Perspectives
Nov.'06 - Nail down new server and storage costs and if we use TS for shop DC stations
Dec.'06 - Proposal to management detailing benefits and costs
Jan '07 - Assuming green light...start customizations and report rewrites
Mar '07 - New server install, remainder of conversion on new server
Jun '07 - Complete reports
Jul '07 - Complete screen changes and start training users
Sep. '07 - Tentative go live Labor Day weekend - alternate Mar '08

I see the move from 6.1 to 8.0 as being nearly the equivalent to our move from DCD-Classic to Vantage 4.0. If we are going to wring the most benefits from it we will need a lot of thought up front, new screens and procedures in place and LOTS of user training.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PLAMAN DICK
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


Because there is so much new to V8, we are going to begin testing in
June
And plan to replace some hardware (clients) in the 4th quarter to be in
a position to
Go live 1st quarter 07. We also want to select which
customers/vendors/part Numbers go
Into V8 as we have data going back to 1996. I have been informed that
Epior is working
On an import utility where you can export data out of your current
system to load into
Vantage 8. We will be wanting that. For us, this will be a good time
to clean up the
Garbage in our system.



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We converted our 6.1 data over to 8.0 at the beginning of 2006. We
were hoping to go live with 8.0 by the end of February. We are unable
to create jobs in 8.0 and support has not been able to resolve it. So
we are still using 6.1 and not sure when support will be able to fix
the problem. So now we are shooting for July as our golive date in
8.0, I am hoping support has enough time then to resolve our issue.
How many people using 8.0 were converted from an earlier version?

Dan Ernst
Computer Services
Correct Craft, Inc.
(407) 855-4141
http://www.correctcraft.com

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.
>
> Is it all you expected it to be?
>
> Thanks,
> Jasper
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
We are current currently on 805f. Waiting to see if there are any major
issues with the latest patches. We went live January 1 2006. We are a
new Epicor User. We have had bumps but nothing that can be overcome.
Our implementation was a disaster. We had an untrained project manager
who we eventually replaced, but not until late in the game, our
replacement was great, our regional project manager was terrible, Never
could get anything done for us, our install took 5 months, never had any
back office training, the world class training was not available until
September, The trainng we did take was for 6.0. The data migration was
awful. Never could get a straight answer for what were required fields.
Still suffering from some data issues.

Data is not easy to retrieve from 8.0. Rewriting reports is a chore. We
have crystal reports, but to modify existing reports requires a 24 step
process just to retrieve the report to make modifications. Forget about
modifying Progress reports. I am still waiting for the 250 reports that
we were promised by the sales person. Saw them in a binder, but
development is still converting them.

Their support stinks. I am still waiting for their world class support
they tout and I am asked to vote on seems like every 3 months. It's
definitely a NO.

We were sold on the ease in which were supposed to retrieve and import
data. For $5,000 dollars they are willing to sell us the tool and
provide some training. Wrong answer!

With that being said, I believe the Functionality and where they are
headed with the software far outreaches their competitors. In the long
run it is the way to go, but EPICOR NEEDS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND
GET THEIR SUPPORT IN LINE FOR THEIR CURRENT CUSTOMERS AND ADDRESS THE
ISSUE THAT THEY WERE AT FAULT IN RELEASING THIS PRODUCT IN AN ALPHA
STAGE AND REMEDY THE SITUATION!

Allan S. Zuleger CMA, CFM, CPIM
Controller
Marvel Manufacturing Company, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey

Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


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I agree it was released too early. It's now GA 13 months and Electroimpact still has critical issues preventing our acceptance. The users would boil me in oil if we converted to it in its current state. Since some of you appear to be working okay, I can only assume our issues may not apply to everyone. We're concerned about the integrity of the Job Structure (27 jobs get rearranged), PO Entry (many issues) and Currency Conversion problems.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zuleger, Allan" <azuleger@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


We are current currently on 805f. Waiting to see if there are any major
issues with the latest patches. We went live January 1 2006. We are a
new Epicor User. We have had bumps but nothing that can be overcome.
Our implementation was a disaster. We had an untrained project manager
who we eventually replaced, but not until late in the game, our
replacement was great, our regional project manager was terrible, Never
could get anything done for us, our install took 5 months, never had any
back office training, the world class training was not available until
September, The trainng we did take was for 6.0. The data migration was
awful. Never could get a straight answer for what were required fields.
Still suffering from some data issues.

Data is not easy to retrieve from 8.0. Rewriting reports is a chore. We
have crystal reports, but to modify existing reports requires a 24 step
process just to retrieve the report to make modifications. Forget about
modifying Progress reports. I am still waiting for the 250 reports that
we were promised by the sales person. Saw them in a binder, but
development is still converting them.

Their support stinks. I am still waiting for their world class support
they tout and I am asked to vote on seems like every 3 months. It's
definitely a NO.

We were sold on the ease in which were supposed to retrieve and import
data. For $5,000 dollars they are willing to sell us the tool and
provide some training. Wrong answer!

With that being said, I believe the Functionality and where they are
headed with the software far outreaches their competitors. In the long
run it is the way to go, but EPICOR NEEDS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND
GET THEIR SUPPORT IN LINE FOR THEIR CURRENT CUSTOMERS AND ADDRESS THE
ISSUE THAT THEY WERE AT FAULT IN RELEASING THIS PRODUCT IN AN ALPHA
STAGE AND REMEDY THE SITUATION!

Allan S. Zuleger CMA, CFM, CPIM
Controller
Marvel Manufacturing Company, Inc.


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey

Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


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Tom,



FYI, we have a custom piece of code (GL Import) that keeps hosing with
just about every patch.... Be careful when doing patches and let their
custom code dept know before you do the patch.



Steven Comeau

Manager, Corporate IT Systems

Main Tape

1 Capital Drive, Suite 101

Cranbury, NJ 08512

800-718-8273 x332

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From: Tom Morrison [mailto:tmorrison@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey



We went live on Jan 1st. We have had non-show stopping issues, though
they are less than expected. We have several custom mods running. They
were slow to be developed... but they do work. Un-fortunately these
modifications delay our upgrading to the latest version until custom
programming has blessed them. We are on 804A. As you can imagine, every
call to support is answered with "your not on the latest
version..sorry". Virtually every call to support gets closed without my
approval or any conclusion.

I like the software, I dislike the support.

Tom Morrison
Load Rite Trailers, Inc.


________________________________

From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


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In an off-list conversation I speculated to Cliff Drumeller that there may be a satisfaction difference between new sites and conversion sites. Also, at the User-4-User conference, Calvin Dekker was advising even existing sites to install "fresh" and retain the old version just for historical reference. Messes up year-to-year-to-year sales reports but it might be worth the reduction in pain in the end....er, that is, in the long run.

Sites reporting on this thread...it would be helpful to include whether fresh load or conversion.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Robisch
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


I agree it was released too early. It's now GA 13 months and Electroimpact still has critical issues preventing our acceptance. The users would boil me in oil if we converted to it in its current state. Since some of you appear to be working okay, I can only assume our issues may not apply to everyone. We're concerned about the integrity of the Job Structure (27 jobs get rearranged), PO Entry (many issues) and Currency Conversion problems.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zuleger, Allan" <azuleger@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


We are current currently on 805f. Waiting to see if there are any major
issues with the latest patches. We went live January 1 2006. We are a
new Epicor User. We have had bumps but nothing that can be overcome.
Our implementation was a disaster. We had an untrained project manager
who we eventually replaced, but not until late in the game, our
replacement was great, our regional project manager was terrible, Never
could get anything done for us, our install took 5 months, never had any
back office training, the world class training was not available until
September, The trainng we did take was for 6.0. The data migration was
awful. Never could get a straight answer for what were required fields.
Still suffering from some data issues.

Data is not easy to retrieve from 8.0. Rewriting reports is a chore. We
have crystal reports, but to modify existing reports requires a 24 step
process just to retrieve the report to make modifications. Forget about
modifying Progress reports. I am still waiting for the 250 reports that
we were promised by the sales person. Saw them in a binder, but
development is still converting them.

Their support stinks. I am still waiting for their world class support
they tout and I am asked to vote on seems like every 3 months. It's
definitely a NO.

We were sold on the ease in which were supposed to retrieve and import
data. For $5,000 dollars they are willing to sell us the tool and
provide some training. Wrong answer!

With that being said, I believe the Functionality and where they are
headed with the software far outreaches their competitors. In the long
run it is the way to go, but EPICOR NEEDS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND
GET THEIR SUPPORT IN LINE FOR THEIR CURRENT CUSTOMERS AND ADDRESS THE
ISSUE THAT THEY WERE AT FAULT IN RELEASING THIS PRODUCT IN AN ALPHA
STAGE AND REMEDY THE SITUATION!

Allan S. Zuleger CMA, CFM, CPIM
Controller
Marvel Manufacturing Company, Inc.


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:57 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey

Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper


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Still on 5.2 (moving to 6.0/1 very shortly) here. Quick question though:
Why re-enter all the data fresh and lose all that history?

Our management would prob not allow that unless it's for a very good reason.

Thanks!

RG






In an off-list conversation I speculated to Cliff Drumeller that there may
be a satisfaction difference between new sites and conversion sites. Also,
at the User-4-User conference, Calvin Dekker was advising even existing
sites to install "fresh" and retain the old version just for historical
reference. Messes up year-to-year-to-year sales reports but it might be
worth the reduction in pain in the end....er, that is, in the long run.

Sites reporting on this thread...it would be helpful to include whether
fresh load or conversion.
-Todd C.





I agree it was released too early. It's now GA 13 months and Electroimpact
still has critical issues preventing our acceptance. The users would boil me
in oil if we converted to it in its current state. Since some of you appear
to be working okay, I can only assume our issues may not apply to everyone.
We're concerned about the integrity of the Job Structure (27 jobs get
rearranged), PO Entry (many issues) and Currency Conversion problems.





We are current currently on 805f. Waiting to see if there are any major
issues with the latest patches. We went live January 1 2006. We are a
new Epicor User. We have had bumps but nothing that can be overcome.
Our implementation was a disaster. We had an untrained project manager
who we eventually replaced, but not until late in the game, our
replacement was great, our regional project manager was terrible, Never
could get anything done for us, our install took 5 months, never had any
back office training, the world class training was not available until
September, The trainng we did take was for 6.0. The data migration was
awful. Never could get a straight answer for what were required fields.
Still suffering from some data issues.

Data is not easy to retrieve from 8.0. Rewriting reports is a chore. We
have crystal reports, but to modify existing reports requires a 24 step
process just to retrieve the report to make modifications. Forget about
modifying Progress reports. I am still waiting for the 250 reports that
we were promised by the sales person. Saw them in a binder, but
development is still converting them.

Their support stinks. I am still waiting for their world class support
they tout and I am asked to vote on seems like every 3 months. It's
definitely a NO.

We were sold on the ease in which were supposed to retrieve and import
data. For $5,000 dollars they are willing to sell us the tool and
provide some training. Wrong answer!

With that being said, I believe the Functionality and where they are
headed with the software far outreaches their competitors. In the long
run it is the way to go, but EPICOR NEEDS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND
GET THEIR SUPPORT IN LINE FOR THEIR CURRENT CUSTOMERS AND ADDRESS THE
ISSUE THAT THEY WERE AT FAULT IN RELEASING THIS PRODUCT IN AN ALPHA
STAGE AND REMEDY THE SITUATION!

Allan S. Zuleger CMA, CFM, CPIM
Controller
Marvel Manufacturing Company, Inc.





Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper



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We are planning our upgrade now.

May I ask in what ways 8.0 is not what you expected
and what issues you are experiencing? Are you
upgrading from another version of Vantage? If so
which? We are on 3.0.

Thank you,
Donna Winges



--- Cheryl Connolly <cconnolly@...> wrote:

> I had the same question. We are planning on going
> live on Vantage 8.0
> on April 1st. We are planning on having a
> readiness assessment this
> weekend. So far it is not what we expected. We are
> running into many
> issues. We are also doing many modifications to the
> system.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheryl Connolly
>
> 651-697-7106
>
>
>
> UV Color, Inc.
>
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I only plan to import master files (part numbers, Customer, Vendors,
etc). My active PO's, SO's,
Invoices will have to be entered, and I plan on keeping a history server
(6.1) for data from days gone by.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Gors
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey

Still on 5.2 (moving to 6.0/1 very shortly) here. Quick question
though:
Why re-enter all the data fresh and lose all that history?

Our management would prob not allow that unless it's for a very good
reason.

Thanks!

RG
Some reasons I am considering:
1. It works better (so it seems)
2. Smaller DB...better performance?
3. Opportunity to clean house (old customers, parts, BOMs, etc....)
- Keep 6.1 running for awhile on old server to access historical info (shhh...don't tell Epicor)
4. Chance to fix mistakes in coding schemes (like numeric Employee Numbers stored as alpha - chance to add leading zeros so they sort right!)
5. Clear out obsolete VB Form type fields and/or refresh as new screen fields

Probably a few more reasons I won't know until I get there. If the gain is enough I can perhaps persuade the owners to live with less year to year comparison for a few years....we did OK after Classic when we had no choice.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Rick Gors
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:40 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


Still on 5.2 (moving to 6.0/1 very shortly) here. Quick question though:
Why re-enter all the data fresh and lose all that history?

Our management would prob not allow that unless it's for a very good reason.

Thanks!

RG






In an off-list conversation I speculated to Cliff Drumeller that there may
be a satisfaction difference between new sites and conversion sites. Also,
at the User-4-User conference, Calvin Dekker was advising even existing
sites to install "fresh" and retain the old version just for historical
reference. Messes up year-to-year-to-year sales reports but it might be
worth the reduction in pain in the end....er, that is, in the long run.

Sites reporting on this thread...it would be helpful to include whether
fresh load or conversion.
-Todd C.





I agree it was released too early. It's now GA 13 months and Electroimpact
still has critical issues preventing our acceptance. The users would boil me
in oil if we converted to it in its current state. Since some of you appear
to be working okay, I can only assume our issues may not apply to everyone.
We're concerned about the integrity of the Job Structure (27 jobs get
rearranged), PO Entry (many issues) and Currency Conversion problems.





We are current currently on 805f. Waiting to see if there are any major
issues with the latest patches. We went live January 1 2006. We are a
new Epicor User. We have had bumps but nothing that can be overcome.
Our implementation was a disaster. We had an untrained project manager
who we eventually replaced, but not until late in the game, our
replacement was great, our regional project manager was terrible, Never
could get anything done for us, our install took 5 months, never had any
back office training, the world class training was not available until
September, The trainng we did take was for 6.0. The data migration was
awful. Never could get a straight answer for what were required fields.
Still suffering from some data issues.

Data is not easy to retrieve from 8.0. Rewriting reports is a chore. We
have crystal reports, but to modify existing reports requires a 24 step
process just to retrieve the report to make modifications. Forget about
modifying Progress reports. I am still waiting for the 250 reports that
we were promised by the sales person. Saw them in a binder, but
development is still converting them.

Their support stinks. I am still waiting for their world class support
they tout and I am asked to vote on seems like every 3 months. It's
definitely a NO.

We were sold on the ease in which were supposed to retrieve and import
data. For $5,000 dollars they are willing to sell us the tool and
provide some training. Wrong answer!

With that being said, I believe the Functionality and where they are
headed with the software far outreaches their competitors. In the long
run it is the way to go, but EPICOR NEEDS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND
GET THEIR SUPPORT IN LINE FOR THEIR CURRENT CUSTOMERS AND ADDRESS THE
ISSUE THAT THEY WERE AT FAULT IN RELEASING THIS PRODUCT IN AN ALPHA
STAGE AND REMEDY THE SITUATION!

Allan S. Zuleger CMA, CFM, CPIM
Controller
Marvel Manufacturing Company, Inc.





Just wondering how many companies out there are on Vantage 8.0.

Is it all you expected it to be?

Thanks,
Jasper



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I see your point(s). A good argument for sure.

It's a shame that I can't have both. Pour all old data into new revision,
but allow a one-time "house keeping" of that data. I'm sure we all have
some of each of your examples. But I would prefer to correct data mistakes,
rather than delete the "defective" data if it were at all possible.

But I'm arguing a moot point I guess.

Thanks Todd

Rick










Some reasons I am considering:
1. It works better (so it seems)
2. Smaller DB...better performance?
3. Opportunity to clean house (old customers, parts, BOMs, etc....)
- Keep 6.1 running for awhile on old server to access historical info
(shhh...don't tell Epicor)
4. Chance to fix mistakes in coding schemes (like numeric Employee Numbers
stored as alpha - chance to add leading zeros so they sort right!)
5. Clear out obsolete VB Form type fields and/or refresh as new screen
fields

Probably a few more reasons I won't know until I get there. If the gain is
enough I can perhaps persuade the owners to live with less year to year
comparison for a few years....we did OK after Classic when we had no choice.
-Todd C.







Still on 5.2 (moving to 6.0/1 very shortly) here. Quick question though:
Why re-enter all the data fresh and lose all that history?

Our management would prob not allow that unless it's for a very good reason.

Thanks!

RG





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In our case, we have to have the old data. We even had to upload ALL PO's from legacy Access system. PO's are the engineer's database at Electroimpact.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Gors" <rgors@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.0 Survey


I see your point(s). A good argument for sure.

It's a shame that I can't have both. Pour all old data into new revision,
but allow a one-time "house keeping" of that data. I'm sure we all have
some of each of your examples. But I would prefer to correct data mistakes,
rather than delete the "defective" data if it were at all possible.

But I'm arguing a moot point I guess.

Thanks Todd

Rick










Some reasons I am considering:
1. It works better (so it seems)
2. Smaller DB...better performance?
3. Opportunity to clean house (old customers, parts, BOMs, etc....)
- Keep 6.1 running for awhile on old server to access historical info
(shhh...don't tell Epicor)
4. Chance to fix mistakes in coding schemes (like numeric Employee Numbers
stored as alpha - chance to add leading zeros so they sort right!)
5. Clear out obsolete VB Form type fields and/or refresh as new screen
fields

Probably a few more reasons I won't know until I get there. If the gain is
enough I can perhaps persuade the owners to live with less year to year
comparison for a few years....we did OK after Classic when we had no choice.
-Todd C.







Still on 5.2 (moving to 6.0/1 very shortly) here. Quick question though:
Why re-enter all the data fresh and lose all that history?

Our management would prob not allow that unless it's for a very good reason.

Thanks!

RG


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