Vantage 8.03 Blank Title 51923

Carl,

Curious on the lot number issue. Haven't seen anything in limited testing. What have you seen?

Thanks

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "CarlH" <carl.heeder@...> wrote:
>
> We're at 4.03.409 SQL up from 8.03.305k.
>
> The only issue so far has to do with Lot numbers. I won't go into it unless you want to learn more.
>
> Also in the conversion, we had difficulties with some BAQ calculations where the accepted Progress syntax changed.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ariffer" <ariffer@> wrote:
> >
> > We have been running 8.03.403c. Is anyone using the latest version? And what new "bugs"/"design features" have people found? We are strongly considering getting off maintenance and want to pick a stable release and deal with the limitations of that version moving forward.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help,
> >
> > Adam Riffer
> > IQuum
> >
>
Hello

We are about to upgrade Vantage from 8.00.809 to 8.03
Are there any issues related to a new versions.
Any comments appreciated.

Thanks

Adam Gwizdz
Manager, Corporate IT Systems
Main Tape Company
1 Capital Drive, Suite 101
Cranbury, NJ 08512
The Test Schema Holder database doesn't get installed. This is crucial as each Schema Holder database points to the appropriate SQL database. We need the Test database to test our Upload from the old system. They also install a Pilot in Progress Explorer Tool, but again, no Schema Holder for it.

Why can't Epicor QA test a new CD burn?

----- Original Message -----
From: Gwizdz, Adam
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03


Hello

We are about to upgrade Vantage from 8.00.809 to 8.03
Are there any issues related to a new versions.
Any comments appreciated.

Thanks

Adam Gwizdz
Manager, Corporate IT Systems
Main Tape Company
1 Capital Drive, Suite 101
Cranbury, NJ 08512




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> We are about to upgrade Vantage from 8.00.809 to 8.03
> Are there any issues related to a new versions.
> Any comments appreciated.

We are not live yet (6 more weeks), so I can't speak to any issues related to
shipments not invoiced, etc. A colleague started the conversion on Monday and
we finished on Wednesday but it could have gone quicker. The documentation is
a little weak, so don't expect a step by step instruction. Some notes off the
top of my head:

- 803 loads into a new folder: \\server\epicor\mfgsys803
- It creates new port numbers for each of your databases (in our case we had
to manually update the SystemAgent with these new values and there's no
mention of it in the directions that we could find.)
- You must use the new Crystal XI R2
- You must be on OpenEdge 10.0B SP5 (service pack included). There is a
Progress Conversion as well as a schema schange.
- You must be at a certain level of .Net 1.1
- To use the new BPM server, you must have Microsoft Message Queue installed
on your IIS server. This feature looks VERY promising (if I understand it
correctly). You can associate code to run with certain events (add a new part
with missing part class, etc.)
- Client installs in \Client803 and requires the newer Crystal
- During the conversion, you backup and restore your database from mfgsys80 to
mfgsys803. You'll check your indeces and truncate the BI file. You'll have to
remember to start and stop database/app servers when appropriate as these
steps are not in the directions.
- To run the training database, you'll need to enter license codes and your
company's serial number using the Training Admin Tools. Remember to add all of
the companies (Education, Minneapolis) to your serial number.
- If you add UNICODE support, we found that our .pf file(s) were missing and
the schema change bombed. We had to copy it to the missing location.
- You'll have to add license codes for new items like the BPM Server.
- In the system agent (Utilities/System Agent), use a drive letter to your
"Server File Directory", e.g. D:\MfgSysData; that avoids using the network
stack and gives a little performance boost. The client file and program
directories still use UNC paths.
- If you have a beefy server, lower the processing delay field at the top of
the System Agent. You will notice that reports come up quicker. I think this
is a polling time so use proper judgment as you don't want 150 clients
checking for reports every second.
- Again, CHECK YOUR APPSERVER URLS in the System Agent. Ours were pointing to
our 8.0 databases when we started up.
- There are extra steps if you are using SonicMQ but we haven't implemented
Sales or Supplier Connect yet.
- Obviously, you need to move custom Crystal reports to the new folder after
you update them.

A quick note on Sales Kits:
- A part can now be Make, Buy, or Sales Kit (Drop down list - no more radio
buttons)
- You enter components as a BOM using Eng Wk Bench.
- You setup kits in Part Maintenance/Plants/Sales Kits.
- There are several options for kits:
You can allow or not allow component changes during Quote/Order entry
You can backflush kits at shipping time or pick components
You can require that the kit ships complete
You can optionally print components on the packing slip and/or customer
documents
You can price at the Kit level or add up component prices

We're rerunning our pilot with the new features. Screens have changed, fields
have appeared, etc. but so far, we have not seen any show stoppers.

If anything else comes up, I'll be sure to post.

Mark W.
Thanks Mark. This is very helpful.

We are still on 809 but plan to move to 803 in 2-3 months, such inputs are really appreciated.

Vishal


To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: mark_wonsil@...: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:55:03 -0400Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03




> We are about to upgrade Vantage from 8.00.809 to 8.03> Are there any issues related to a new versions.> Any comments appreciated.We are not live yet (6 more weeks), so I can't speak to any issues related toshipments not invoiced, etc. A colleague started the conversion on Monday andwe finished on Wednesday but it could have gone quicker. The documentation isa little weak, so don't expect a step by step instruction. Some notes off thetop of my head:- 803 loads into a new folder: \\server\epicor\mfgsys803- It creates new port numbers for each of your databases (in our case we hadto manually update the SystemAgent with these new values and there's nomention of it in the directions that we could find.)- You must use the new Crystal XI R2- You must be on OpenEdge 10.0B SP5 (service pack included). There is aProgress Conversion as well as a schema schange.- You must be at a certain level of .Net 1.1- To use the new BPM server, you must have Microsoft Message Queue installedon your IIS server. This feature looks VERY promising (if I understand itcorrectly). You can associate code to run with certain events (add a new partwith missing part class, etc.)- Client installs in \Client803 and requires the newer Crystal- During the conversion, you backup and restore your database from mfgsys80 tomfgsys803. You'll check your indeces and truncate the BI file. You'll have toremember to start and stop database/app servers when appropriate as thesesteps are not in the directions.- To run the training database, you'll need to enter license codes and yourcompany's serial number using the Training Admin Tools. Remember to add all ofthe companies (Education, Minneapolis) to your serial number.- If you add UNICODE support, we found that our .pf file(s) were missing andthe schema change bombed. We had to copy it to the missing location.- You'll have to add license codes for new items like the BPM Server.- In the system agent (Utilities/System Agent), use a drive letter to your"Server File Directory", e.g. D:\MfgSysData; that avoids using the networkstack and gives a little performance boost. The client file and programdirectories still use UNC paths.- If you have a beefy server, lower the processing delay field at the top ofthe System Agent. You will notice that reports come up quicker. I think thisis a polling time so use proper judgment as you don't want 150 clientschecking for reports every second.- Again, CHECK YOUR APPSERVER URLS in the System Agent. Ours were pointing toour 8.0 databases when we started up.- There are extra steps if you are using SonicMQ but we haven't implementedSales or Supplier Connect yet.- Obviously, you need to move custom Crystal reports to the new folder afteryou update them.A quick note on Sales Kits:- A part can now be Make, Buy, or Sales Kit (Drop down list - no more radiobuttons)- You enter components as a BOM using Eng Wk Bench.- You setup kits in Part Maintenance/Plants/Sales Kits.- There are several options for kits:You can allow or not allow component changes during Quote/Order entryYou can backflush kits at shipping time or pick componentsYou can require that the kit ships completeYou can optionally print components on the packing slip and/or customerdocumentsYou can price at the Kit level or add up component pricesWe're rerunning our pilot with the new features. Screens have changed, fieldshave appeared, etc. but so far, we have not seen any show stoppers.If anything else comes up, I'll be sure to post.Mark W.



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Good stuff Mark
thanks for the input

Gerard

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Thu 9/21/2006 12:55 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03



> We are about to upgrade Vantage from 8.00.809 to 8.03
> Are there any issues related to a new versions.
> Any comments appreciated.

We are not live yet (6 more weeks), so I can't speak to any issues related to
shipments not invoiced, etc. A colleague started the conversion on Monday and
we finished on Wednesday but it could have gone quicker. The documentation is
a little weak, so don't expect a step by step instruction. Some notes off the
top of my head:

- 803 loads into a new folder: \\server\epicor\mfgsys803
- It creates new port numbers for each of your databases (in our case we had
to manually update the SystemAgent with these new values and there's no
mention of it in the directions that we could find.)
- You must use the new Crystal XI R2
- You must be on OpenEdge 10.0B SP5 (service pack included). There is a
Progress Conversion as well as a schema schange.
- You must be at a certain level of .Net 1.1
- To use the new BPM server, you must have Microsoft Message Queue installed
on your IIS server. This feature looks VERY promising (if I understand it
correctly). You can associate code to run with certain events (add a new part
with missing part class, etc.)
- Client installs in \Client803 and requires the newer Crystal
- During the conversion, you backup and restore your database from mfgsys80 to
mfgsys803. You'll check your indeces and truncate the BI file. You'll have to
remember to start and stop database/app servers when appropriate as these
steps are not in the directions.
- To run the training database, you'll need to enter license codes and your
company's serial number using the Training Admin Tools. Remember to add all of
the companies (Education, Minneapolis) to your serial number.
- If you add UNICODE support, we found that our .pf file(s) were missing and
the schema change bombed. We had to copy it to the missing location.
- You'll have to add license codes for new items like the BPM Server.
- In the system agent (Utilities/System Agent), use a drive letter to your
"Server File Directory", e.g. D:\MfgSysData; that avoids using the network
stack and gives a little performance boost. The client file and program
directories still use UNC paths.
- If you have a beefy server, lower the processing delay field at the top of
the System Agent. You will notice that reports come up quicker. I think this
is a polling time so use proper judgment as you don't want 150 clients
checking for reports every second.
- Again, CHECK YOUR APPSERVER URLS in the System Agent. Ours were pointing to
our 8.0 databases when we started up.
- There are extra steps if you are using SonicMQ but we haven't implemented
Sales or Supplier Connect yet.
- Obviously, you need to move custom Crystal reports to the new folder after
you update them.

A quick note on Sales Kits:
- A part can now be Make, Buy, or Sales Kit (Drop down list - no more radio
buttons)
- You enter components as a BOM using Eng Wk Bench.
- You setup kits in Part Maintenance/Plants/Sales Kits.
- There are several options for kits:
You can allow or not allow component changes during Quote/Order entry
You can backflush kits at shipping time or pick components
You can require that the kit ships complete
You can optionally print components on the packing slip and/or customer
documents
You can price at the Kit level or add up component prices

We're rerunning our pilot with the new features. Screens have changed, fields
have appeared, etc. but so far, we have not seen any show stoppers.

If anything else comes up, I'll be sure to post.

Mark W.






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I spoke with someone at Epicor that knows what they are doing that
had this to say about .803...



The schema holders for the test and pilot DB really didnt ship with
the DVD or the latest patch...which was a pretty big over site.
Those are being bundled into the next service pack and beyond so
that will no longer be a problem... and this is only a problem for
users running a SQL backend...progress doesn't use schema holders.

That run down of notes from the We are not live yet person was
pretty fantastic. He did a good run down of common gotchyas with
the upgrade process.

From the email I didnt see any mission critical failures...the
schema holders can be created easily.

In my honest opinion I would upgrade to 8.03. (unless you are
running SQL..then I would wait for 3 more service packs or so)



Keep the dialogue going on .803 issues as we will be upgrading in
about 3 weeks (Progress)...


Thanks, John
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Gwizdz, Adam" <Adam.Gwizdz@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> We are about to upgrade Vantage from 8.00.809 to 8.03
> Are there any issues related to a new versions.
> Any comments appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>

I was advised by our sales rep not to upgrade since 8.03 doesn't
support advance shipping module yet.

PK
> I was advised by our sales rep not to upgrade since 8.03 doesn't
> support advance shipping module yet.

I would imagine that few of the 3rd party programs will support the 8.03
interim release unless they really must. However, there is a new tab on
ship-to customers as well as Quote/Order Entry called Manifest Details. The
fields appear to come right from the UPS Worldship screen. There are fields
for reference numbers, email notification, residential shipping flag,
insurance, type of service, etc. I assume that these are available without
Advance Shipping.

The other interesting improvement is credit card processing. If you use
Payflow through Verisign, it appears that you can do the credit processing
right in order entry. There is also an encryption routine to help protect
credit card numbers.

Untested, but interesting...

Mark W.
What is the difference between Multi-Site G/L Journals (listed under
available licenses) and Multi-Site Management (listed under installed
licenses)?

Thanks
Clinton Edwards
Trinity Yachts
Looking for ideas on how one tracks a part that is purchased job direct
and stored on a shelf for a period of time than actually used on the
job.

Thanks
Clinton
Can anyone tell me if Annotations lost when you upgrade or load a patch? Can you print the Annotations in 8.03? Does anyone use this function for documentation?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek L.L.C.
Elk Grove Village, IL
We have been running 8.03.403c. Is anyone using the latest version? And what new "bugs"/"design features" have people found? We are strongly considering getting off maintenance and want to pick a stable release and deal with the limitations of that version moving forward.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Adam Riffer
IQuum
We're at 4.03.409 SQL up from 8.03.305k.

The only issue so far has to do with Lot numbers. I won't go into it unless you want to learn more.

Also in the conversion, we had difficulties with some BAQ calculations where the accepted Progress syntax changed.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ariffer" <ariffer@...> wrote:
>
> We have been running 8.03.403c. Is anyone using the latest version? And what new "bugs"/"design features" have people found? We are strongly considering getting off maintenance and want to pick a stable release and deal with the limitations of that version moving forward.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> Adam Riffer
> IQuum
>