I had this discussion with management when we upgraded to Version 9 - their question, We never had a need for one in the past so why do we need one now? So while explaining the need (not benefits) I also sold them on the the idea that it could be used for disaster recovery, if/when the primary server crashed. While the test server is half the power of the live server, we could get by while the live server was rebuilt.
Tim
Tim
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Flynt Moreland <flynt@...> wrote:
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> Ditto, you will only make that mistake once! Don't do it! Learn from my
> mistake:) Buy the server. I found a nice used test server for $900
> Thanks
> Flynt
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> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > Ditto, don't risk compromising something that runs your business! ROI is
> > easy on that one.
> >
> > Rob Bucek
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> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Ned
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:08 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 9.05 Test Server
> >
> > No, not overly cautious at all, I don't think there is a single person here
> > who wouldn't back up using a completely different machine.
> >
> > While I can understand balking at some costs, you can easily get a test
> > server built and running for under $1000, or even sub $500.
> >
> > It's well worth the time and effort to have it, then you don't have any
> > worries about any cross talk or potential downtime due to a minor error in
> > the installation of a service pack or patch, you'll save money just on less
> > Tylenol you'll need to buy when you do have a problem because the headaches
> > are so bad.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > Dina Hieber
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:16 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 9.05 Test Server
> >
> > Thanks Ned, that was my concern, but he thinks I am being overly cautious.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Dina M. Hieber
> > Vamco International, Inc.
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> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > Ned
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:10 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 9.05 Test Server
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> > Bad idea.
> >
> > I assume by test server, you mean a server to test new service packs versus
> > something to test out a customization or bpm prior to application to your
> > production database.
> >
> > There are so many risks that you could potentially corrupt your live
> > production environment when trying to update the test environment.
> >
> > I have cleaned up way way way too many messes in my time from these
> > situations, just put it on another computer, doesn't need to be a server,
> > doesn't even need to be a server OS if you don't want to, speed is not the
> > key, functionality is what the testing is all about and the concern with a
> > test server for service packs and updates.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> > vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
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> > Of Dina Hieber
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:32 PM
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> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 9.05 Test Server
> >
> > My boss wants to run our "test" server on the same server as our live. I
> > have a "desktop" with windows server 2008 installed (trial) it is Intel
> > Core
> > I7 3.4 64bit 8GB RAM, that I have been playing trying to get Vantage
> > installed on there. I prefer we just purchase the Server License, and keep
> > that as a test server. He suggested just installing a "test" server on the
> > live.
> >
> > Any pro's or cons.....
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Dina M. Hieber
> > Vamco International, Inc.
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