If you also have after imaging turned on, you can the roll forward you
ai files on the back up server, and loose virtually nothing. See the
systems amin manual for an extensive discussion of AI.

Gary Polvinale wrote:

>
> What is good disaster recovery plan for Vantage? We just had a near-miss,
> giving us a reality check. Turned out that something caused the switch to
> burp and lose its network address table, but Vantage users were down a whole
> day. A good recovery plan has been moved to the top of the priority pecking
> order.
>
> What do you think is the minimum down-time possible to achieve, when a
> server bites the dust? We're looking at a whole range of precautions,
> including mirroring servers between our two sites, in case the worst should
> happen. Lots of other precautions we could take, too - some seem more
> necessary than others. I'm reading articles and searching the web for info,
> but I wondered what you guys are doing about this. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
>
> Gary Polvinale
> Denton ATD
>
> Gary
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

We use an old server with Vantage loaded (same patch level as production
server). Each online backup from the production server is restored on
the backup server (both to check the validity of the backup, as well as
have an "active" backup).
In order for the users to "seemlessly" switch over without re-installing
Vantage is to create a hosts file on the workstation which resolves the
production server name with the backup server IP address. (if you want
to do this without rebooting , you need to also clear the arp cache).

If the production server goes down, we only have to go back to the last
online backup.

Another side benefit, is that the backup server makes a great "play"
server to try things out without doing any damage to the production
server.

Gary Polvinale wrote:

> What is good disaster recovery plan for Vantage? We just had a
> near-miss,
> giving us a reality check. Turned out that something caused the
> switch to
> burp and lose its network address table, but Vantage users were down a
> whole
> day. A good recovery plan has been moved to the top of the priority
> pecking
> order.
>
> What do you think is the minimum down-time possible to achieve, when a
>
> server bites the dust? We're looking at a whole range of precautions,
>
> including mirroring servers between our two sites, in case the worst
> should
> happen. Lots of other precautions we could take, too - some seem more
>
> necessary than others. I'm reading articles and searching the web for
> info,
> but I wondered what you guys are doing about this. Any suggestions
> would be
> appreciated.
>
> Gary Polvinale
> Denton ATD
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[Click Here to Find Software Faster]
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>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

--
Britt Moelling
M&M Manufacturing Co.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Can I get clarification of this...
Do you then also have a license for the backup server and running a fullv
version of vantage on there. Or how exactly is that working?

-----Original Message-----
From: Britt Moelling [mailto:bmoelling@...]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:36 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage Disaster Recovery Continuity Plan

We use an old server with Vantage loaded (same patch level as production
server). Each online backup from the production server is restored on
the backup server (both to check the validity of the backup, as well as
have an "active" backup).
In order for the users to "seemlessly" switch over without re-installing
Vantage is to create a hosts file on the workstation which resolves the
production server name with the backup server IP address. (if you want
to do this without rebooting , you need to also clear the arp cache).

If the production server goes down, we only have to go back to the last
online backup.

Another side benefit, is that the backup server makes a great "play"
server to try things out without doing any damage to the production
server.

Gary Polvinale wrote:

> What is good disaster recovery plan for Vantage? We just had a
> near-miss,
> giving us a reality check. Turned out that something caused the
> switch to
> burp and lose its network address table, but Vantage users were down a
> whole
> day. A good recovery plan has been moved to the top of the priority
> pecking
> order.
>
> What do you think is the minimum down-time possible to achieve, when a
>
> server bites the dust? We're looking at a whole range of precautions,
>
> including mirroring servers between our two sites, in case the worst
> should
> happen. Lots of other precautions we could take, too - some seem more
>
> necessary than others. I'm reading articles and searching the web for
> info,
> but I wondered what you guys are doing about this. Any suggestions
> would be
> appreciated.
>
> Gary Polvinale
> Denton ATD
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[Click Here to Find Software Faster]
Click Here to Find Software Faster

>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

I have told tech support numerous times about our backup server, and
they have never had a problem with it. In fact, they have even told me
it is a good idea to have one.
We don't use it "live", but as a test server to test new patches, custom
programs, and restoring data.

Britt

"Heisey, Lois" wrote:

> Can I get clarification of this...
> Do you then also have a license for the backup server and running a
> fullv
> version of vantage on there. Or how exactly is that working?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Britt Moelling [mailto:bmoelling@...]
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:36 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage Disaster Recovery Continuity Plan
>
>
> We use an old server with Vantage loaded (same patch level as
> production
> server). Each online backup from the production server is restored on
>
> the backup server (both to check the validity of the backup, as well
> as
> have an "active" backup).
> In order for the users to "seemlessly" switch over without
> re-installing
> Vantage is to create a hosts file on the workstation which resolves
> the
> production server name with the backup server IP address. (if you want
>
> to do this without rebooting , you need to also clear the arp cache).
>
> If the production server goes down, we only have to go back to the
> last
> online backup.
>
> Another side benefit, is that the backup server makes a great "play"
> server to try things out without doing any damage to the production
> server.
>
>
> Gary Polvinale wrote:
>
> > What is good disaster recovery plan for Vantage? We just had a
> > near-miss,
> > giving us a reality check. Turned out that something caused the
> > switch to
> > burp and lose its network address table, but Vantage users were down
> a
> > whole
> > day. A good recovery plan has been moved to the top of the priority
>
> > pecking
> > order.
> >
> > What do you think is the minimum down-time possible to achieve, when
> a
> >
> > server bites the dust? We're looking at a whole range of
> precautions,
> >
> > including mirroring servers between our two sites, in case the worst
>
> > should
> > happen. Lots of other precautions we could take, too - some seem
> more
> >
> > necessary than others. I'm reading articles and searching the web
> for
> > info,
> > but I wondered what you guys are doing about this. Any suggestions
> > would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Gary Polvinale
> > Denton ATD
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> [Click Here to Find Software Faster]
> Click Here to Find Software Faster
>
> >
> > To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
> --
> Britt Moelling
> M&M Manufacturing Co.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already
> linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[Click Here to Find Software Faster]
Click Here to Find Software Faster

>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

--
Britt Moelling
M&M Manufacturing Co.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm sorry I am a new user and just wanted some help understanding how you
did this. I certainly was not questioning what you are doing. I am
concerned about disaster recovery and really don't have a plan in place and
was look for the suggestions on the site. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Britt Moelling [mailto:bmoelling@...]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:51 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage Disaster Recovery Continuity Plan

I have told tech support numerous times about our backup server, and
they have never had a problem with it. In fact, they have even told me
it is a good idea to have one.
We don't use it "live", but as a test server to test new patches, custom
programs, and restoring data.

Britt

"Heisey, Lois" wrote:

> Can I get clarification of this...
> Do you then also have a license for the backup server and running a
> fullv
> version of vantage on there. Or how exactly is that working?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Britt Moelling [mailto:bmoelling@...]
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:36 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage Disaster Recovery Continuity Plan
>
>
> We use an old server with Vantage loaded (same patch level as
> production
> server). Each online backup from the production server is restored on
>
> the backup server (both to check the validity of the backup, as well
> as
> have an "active" backup).
> In order for the users to "seemlessly" switch over without
> re-installing
> Vantage is to create a hosts file on the workstation which resolves
> the
> production server name with the backup server IP address. (if you want
>
> to do this without rebooting , you need to also clear the arp cache).
>
> If the production server goes down, we only have to go back to the
> last
> online backup.
>
> Another side benefit, is that the backup server makes a great "play"
> server to try things out without doing any damage to the production
> server.
>
>
> Gary Polvinale wrote:
>
> > What is good disaster recovery plan for Vantage? We just had a
> > near-miss,
> > giving us a reality check. Turned out that something caused the
> > switch to
> > burp and lose its network address table, but Vantage users were down
> a
> > whole
> > day. A good recovery plan has been moved to the top of the priority
>
> > pecking
> > order.
> >
> > What do you think is the minimum down-time possible to achieve, when
> a
> >
> > server bites the dust? We're looking at a whole range of
> precautions,
> >
> > including mirroring servers between our two sites, in case the worst
>
> > should
> > happen. Lots of other precautions we could take, too - some seem
> more
> >
> > necessary than others. I'm reading articles and searching the web
> for
> > info,
> > but I wondered what you guys are doing about this. Any suggestions
> > would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Gary Polvinale
> > Denton ATD
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> [Click Here to Find Software Faster]
> Click Here to Find Software Faster
>
> >
> > To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
> --
> Britt Moelling
> M&M Manufacturing Co.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already
> linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[Click Here to Find Software Faster]
Click Here to Find Software Faster

>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

I asked the forum about this because everyone has their own idea of what
works. And although everybody's situation differs slightly, I thought this
would be a chance to glean the best of the best.

I'll definitely get going on the test server idea.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Heisey, Lois [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:58 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage Disaster Recovery Continuity Plan

I'm sorry I am a new user and just wanted some help understanding how you
did this. I certainly was not questioning what you are doing. I am
concerned about disaster recovery and really don't have a plan in place and
was look for the suggestions on the site. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Britt Moelling [mailto:bmoelling@...]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:51 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage Disaster Recovery Continuity Plan

I have told tech support numerous times about our backup server, and
they have never had a problem with it. In fact, they have even told me
it is a good idea to have one.
We don't use it "live", but as a test server to test new patches, custom
programs, and restoring data.

Britt

"Heisey, Lois" wrote:

> Can I get clarification of this...
> Do you then also have a license for the backup server and running a
> fullv
> version of vantage on there. Or how exactly is that working?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Britt Moelling [mailto:bmoelling@...]
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:36 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage Disaster Recovery Continuity Plan
>
>
> We use an old server with Vantage loaded (same patch level as
> production
> server). Each online backup from the production server is restored on
>
> the backup server (both to check the validity of the backup, as well
> as
> have an "active" backup).
> In order for the users to "seemlessly" switch over without
> re-installing
> Vantage is to create a hosts file on the workstation which resolves
> the
> production server name with the backup server IP address. (if you want
>
> to do this without rebooting , you need to also clear the arp cache).
>
> If the production server goes down, we only have to go back to the
> last
> online backup.
>
> Another side benefit, is that the backup server makes a great "play"
> server to try things out without doing any damage to the production
> server.
>
>
> Gary Polvinale wrote:
>
> > What is good disaster recovery plan for Vantage? We just had a
> > near-miss,
> > giving us a reality check. Turned out that something caused the
> > switch to
> > burp and lose its network address table, but Vantage users were down
> a
> > whole
> > day. A good recovery plan has been moved to the top of the priority
>
> > pecking
> > order.
> >
> > What do you think is the minimum down-time possible to achieve, when
> a
> >
> > server bites the dust? We're looking at a whole range of
> precautions,
> >
> > including mirroring servers between our two sites, in case the worst
>
> > should
> > happen. Lots of other precautions we could take, too - some seem
> more
> >
> > necessary than others. I'm reading articles and searching the web
> for
> > info,
> > but I wondered what you guys are doing about this. Any suggestions
> > would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Gary Polvinale
> > Denton ATD
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> [Click Here to Find Software Faster]
> Click Here to Find Software Faster
>
> >
> > To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
> --
> Britt Moelling
> M&M Manufacturing Co.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already
> linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[Click Here to Find Software Faster]
Click Here to Find Software Faster

>
> To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

--
Britt Moelling
M&M Manufacturing Co.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have already
linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Note: You must have already
linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/