Vantage Licencing

I asked about pricing of the Web Service licenses at Perspectives and
while I did not get a solid answer I was informed the cost would be
close to if not the same as a full license. I was also informed the
new licensing mode would be Web Service licenses or Full licenses.
What I am looking for is more of a mix mode where I can use Full
licenses and Web Service licenses. If you find anything out for sure
on how they are making this work, please post back.

Steve Trumbo
IT Manager
Grain Belt Supply

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Snyder" <dan.snyder@...> wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly from Perspectives, Epicor ran into the same
issue
> when selling Service Connect to customers. They created a new
license code
> for web services connections to get around the problem. Contact
your Epicor
> Customer Account Manager to find out how much they are charging for this
> license.
> Dan Snyder
> IT Manager
> Mercury Electronics
> 717-428-0222 ext.224
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> cusolle
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:06 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Licencing
>
>
>
> We currently have 35 user licenses. Our website is connecting to the
> vantage business objects and once there are 35 connections in use no
> more can be made.
>
> Eventually our web application could have hundreds of concurrent users
> at a time, which would require serious cash to get enough licences.
>
> We would like to find a way to increase the connections to the business
> objects. I understand that reducing calls to the databse and caching
> would help but this is not a guarenteed solution. It still would have
> times where there could only be 35 users logged in.
>
> We currently have a session connection used so that a user cannot
> consume more than one connection.
> I was thinking of sharing connections in the application and also
> catching a failed connection waiting 2 secs then trying again for say
> max ten times.
>
> Has anyone had any success with something like this? I am not looking
> to break our licencing agreement but I am looking to push its limits
> because it is an absurd one.
>
>
>
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>
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We currently have 35 user licenses. Our website is connecting to the
vantage business objects and once there are 35 connections in use no
more can be made.

Eventually our web application could have hundreds of concurrent users
at a time, which would require serious cash to get enough licences.

We would like to find a way to increase the connections to the business
objects. I understand that reducing calls to the databse and caching
would help but this is not a guarenteed solution. It still would have
times where there could only be 35 users logged in.

We currently have a session connection used so that a user cannot
consume more than one connection.
I was thinking of sharing connections in the application and also
catching a failed connection waiting 2 secs then trying again for say
max ten times.

Has anyone had any success with something like this? I am not looking
to break our licencing agreement but I am looking to push its limits
because it is an absurd one.
If I remember correctly from Perspectives, Epicor ran into the same issue
when selling Service Connect to customers. They created a new license code
for web services connections to get around the problem. Contact your Epicor
Customer Account Manager to find out how much they are charging for this
license.
Dan Snyder
IT Manager
Mercury Electronics
717-428-0222 ext.224


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
cusolle
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Licencing



We currently have 35 user licenses. Our website is connecting to the
vantage business objects and once there are 35 connections in use no
more can be made.

Eventually our web application could have hundreds of concurrent users
at a time, which would require serious cash to get enough licences.

We would like to find a way to increase the connections to the business
objects. I understand that reducing calls to the databse and caching
would help but this is not a guarenteed solution. It still would have
times where there could only be 35 users logged in.

We currently have a session connection used so that a user cannot
consume more than one connection.
I was thinking of sharing connections in the application and also
catching a failed connection waiting 2 secs then trying again for say
max ten times.

Has anyone had any success with something like this? I am not looking
to break our licencing agreement but I am looking to push its limits
because it is an absurd one.



.

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In order to limit the number of expensive licenses, we have built
screens into our company intranet which access the vantage data using
web services. This way lite users who only need access for viewing and
editing some basic ie non transactional data can do so without tying up
the expensive licenses which are left free for the heavier users.



This works really well, you can create very clear screens so that those
that are not so familiar with Vantage get what they need much faster.
Enabling us to run our own CRM system outside Vantage but tying in
companies (customers/suppliers contacts) through the Vantage ID's only
when there are transactions with them. We have 15 licenses and about 30
people all making use of the linked data.





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