Vantage licenses (V5.1)

>I have always matched the -n value in the Startup.pf to the setting in the
PET. I can't seem to find anything to back >> >this up. I know the
default -n value (if missing) is 20.


this entry is from the last db startup.
21:01:57 BROKER 0: Maximum Number of Users (-n): 97. (4260) set to 97
users...even tho there is no entry in the
startup.pf file.

As I recall, there is no error number with the out of licenses message. But
I will double check for that today.
When I get up to 60 users on board, I get the message.

thanks very much for your help.
I just found this out this morning!
We have 60 full vantage licenses and 9 data collection licenses. If you run
a report
that is installed in the vantage menu, it consumes a full vantage licenses
until the report
is taken out of memory. If you leave it displayed on the monitor, it is
taking up a seat!
Can anyone else confirm this?? It doesn't make any sense to me.

regards,


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I believe it uses a progress license, NOT a vantage license. We set our
progress licenses to double our total vantage licenses for this reason.



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That's what I thought, but when we get up to 60, (the report builder
sessions show up
in the "connected users") the next dance partner gets an "out of licenses"
message.
verry strange!

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] vantage licenses (V5.1)


I believe it uses a progress license, NOT a vantage license. We set our
progress licenses to double our total vantage licenses for this reason.



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Tested this on 5.2 and running a RB report from a menu option only uses a
Progress License as suspected, not a Vantage license. The "connected users"
option in Vantage shows you all Progress connections (not just the Vantage
licenses in use). Check to see what you have set your Progress licenses for
(this is the -n value in the startup.pf). Set this number greater than your
total number of Vantage lic + Data Collection lic to allow for these
additional connections. Sarah's method of doubling the License number is a
good starting point.

-----Original Message-----
From: PLAMAN DICK [mailto:dick.plaman@...]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:01 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] vantage licenses (V5.1)


That's what I thought, but when we get up to 60, (the report builder
sessions show up
in the "connected users") the next dance partner gets an "out of licenses"
message.
verry strange!

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] vantage licenses (V5.1)


I believe it uses a progress license, NOT a vantage license. We set our
progress licenses to double our total vantage licenses for this reason.
Doesn't the -n parameter get set via the General tab in the MMC Progress
Explorer Tool?
"Maximum Users" I have that set @ 96 users.
I checked the startup.pf file in progress and the "-n" parameter was absent.

I may be operating on a wrong premise that this is all taken care of in the
PET.
Question....if I set the -n value at 96 in the startup.pf file, do I need to
stop and restart the db?
I have always matched the -n value in the Startup.pf to the setting in the
PET. I can't seem to find anything to back this up. I know the default -n
value (if missing) is 20. I did find this on the Progress website if it
helps:

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EXPLANATION:

The database might be starting with a different value for -n than what
you specified in the startup parameter.

SOLUTION:

Check the database log file at the time stamp when the database was
last started. Look for a line similar to:

09:57:13 BROKER 0: Maximum Number of Users (-n): 51. (4260)

Does the value for -n (in this case 51) match what you specified in
the startup parameter?
-------------------------------------------------------

Yes the database would have to be restarted after making a change to the
startup.pf file. What is the full context of your "out of licenses"
message? Does it have a Progress error number attached to it? If it is
(748), it wouldn't hurt to add the -n value to the startup.pf file to see if
that resolves your issue.



-----Original Message-----
From: PLAMAN DICK [mailto:dick.plaman@...]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:27 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] vantage licenses (V5.1)


Doesn't the -n parameter get set via the General tab in the MMC Progress
Explorer Tool?
"Maximum Users" I have that set @ 96 users.
I checked the startup.pf file in progress and the "-n" parameter was absent.

I may be operating on a wrong premise that this is all taken care of in the
PET.
Question....if I set the -n value at 96 in the startup.pf file, do I need to
stop and restart the db?