Vantage on Cluster

Yes, there are a few Vantage Customers who are running in a cluster.

Last I knew, there is one in Portland, OR, two in New Jersey, and one in North
Dakota who are running Vantage in a cluster.

A couple of hints/suggestions/notes for you.

1- Open Edge needs to be installed separately on the local drive in each node of
the cluster
2- Put the vantage installation on the shared drive
3- Make sure you put the shared drive with the Vantage installation as a
dependency of the OE service on each node.
4- Make sure all file paths in the vantage installation use the cluster name,
not the server names
5- You cannot do a quick switch back and forth between nodes, there will be
orphaned processes that will prevent a re-startup of vantage until they can all
be killed off, they will die naturally but they take time to die off from not
being connected.

It can be kind of a pain in the ass to be honest, while it's cool and great, I
honestly don't think most companies running Vantage really need a clustered
setup, it can honestly be a real pain in the ass and take a really really long
time to get up and running the way it should be.

Depending on why you want to use a cluster, there is likely a cheaper, and much
simpler way of accomplishing the same thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ramsey_burns
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 6:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage on Cluster

Thanks, I think that will come in handy as I'm doing this. I haven't bothered to
learn much about OpenEdge but guess now is the time.

I'll report back if I get it working.

Cheers,

-Ramsey


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...> wrote:
>
> Basically OpenEdge looks at the .PF file for the database and finds
> the DSN= parameter:
>
>
>
> -Mm 1024 -mmax 65534 -Bt 4096 -s 8000 -yy 1970 -stsh 31 -inp 32000 -tok
> 4000 -TB 31 -TM 32 -D 500 -l 1000
>
> -tmpbsize 8 -ttmarshal 5 -lkwtmo 180
>
> -T c:\epicor\mfgwrk803
>
> -db c:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsyssh -ld mfgsyssh -RO
>
> -db mfgsys803 -dt MSS -ld mfgsys
>
> -Dsrv
> skip_schema_check,PRGRS_CONNECT,DSN=MFGSYS803,TXN_ISOLATION,1,PRGRS_NATI
> VE_LOCKWAIT,30000
>
>
>
> And then uses that System DSN to connect to Vantage. You could make a
> different DSN and change the parameter there, but for simplicity's sake
> I'd suggest just changing the DSN itself and avoid head-scratching by
> yourself or your successor. :-)
>
>
>
> -bws
>
>
>
> --
>
> Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /
> Picometrix
>
> bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~
> www.advancedphotonix.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of ramsey_burns
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:23 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage on Cluster
>
>
>
> Ah, I guess that was too obvious for me to figure out.. Thanks Brian.
>
>
>
> -Ramsey
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Well the 'pointing to a different SQL Server' task is simple: just
> change the system DSN with the same name as your OpenEdge database to
> point to the new server.
>
> >
>
> > -bws
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix
> / Picometrix
>
> > bspolarich@ ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of ramsey_burns
>
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:58 AM
>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage on Cluster
>
> >
>
> > Is anyone running on a windows cluster? Couldn't find any info if this
> is actually supported or not. A related question, how to direct an
> existing install to another SQL server? We're using .407 SQL and
> looking at a minimum to split the app server and SQL server but would be
> nice to have these be able to fail over to each other. The SQL part
> should be no problem but I have no experience with the app server
> portion.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > -Ramsey
>
> > ramsey@
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
>
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
>
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
>
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
>
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
>
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/
>
>
>
> Individual Email | Traditional
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/join
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
Is anyone running on a windows cluster? Couldn't find any info if this is actually supported or not. A related question, how to direct an existing install to another SQL server? We're using .407 SQL and looking at a minimum to split the app server and SQL server but would be nice to have these be able to fail over to each other. The SQL part should be no problem but I have no experience with the app server portion.

Cheers,

-Ramsey
ramsey@...
Well the 'pointing to a different SQL Server' task is simple: just change the system DSN with the same name as your OpenEdge database to point to the new server.

-bws

--
Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix / Picometrix
    bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ramsey_burns
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage on Cluster

Is anyone running on a windows cluster? Couldn't find any info if this is actually supported or not. A related question, how to direct an existing install to another SQL server? We're using .407 SQL and looking at a minimum to split the app server and SQL server but would be nice to have these be able to fail over to each other. The SQL part should be no problem but I have no experience with the app server portion.

Cheers,

-Ramsey
ramsey@...



------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
Ah, I guess that was too obvious for me to figure out.. Thanks Brian.

-Ramsey

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...> wrote:
>
> Well the 'pointing to a different SQL Server' task is simple: just change the system DSN with the same name as your OpenEdge database to point to the new server.
>
> -bws
>
> --
> Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix / Picometrix
> Â Â Â Â bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ramsey_burns
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage on Cluster
>
> Is anyone running on a windows cluster? Couldn't find any info if this is actually supported or not. A related question, how to direct an existing install to another SQL server? We're using .407 SQL and looking at a minimum to split the app server and SQL server but would be nice to have these be able to fail over to each other. The SQL part should be no problem but I have no experience with the app server portion.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Ramsey
> ramsey@...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
Yeah, but I have no idea about clustering. You're on your own there. ;-)

--
Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix / Picometrix
    bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ramsey_burns
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage on Cluster

Ah, I guess that was too obvious for me to figure out.. Thanks Brian.

-Ramsey

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...> wrote:
>
> Well the 'pointing to a different SQL Server' task is simple: just change the system DSN with the same name as your OpenEdge database to point to the new server.
>
> -bws
>
> --
> Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix / Picometrix
> Â Â Â Â bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ramsey_burns
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage on Cluster
>
> Is anyone running on a windows cluster? Couldn't find any info if this is actually supported or not. A related question, how to direct an existing install to another SQL server? We're using .407 SQL and looking at a minimum to split the app server and SQL server but would be nice to have these be able to fail over to each other. The SQL part should be no problem but I have no experience with the app server portion.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Ramsey
> ramsey@...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>




------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
Basically OpenEdge looks at the .PF file for the database and finds
the DSN= parameter:



-Mm 1024 -mmax 65534 -Bt 4096 -s 8000 -yy 1970 -stsh 31 -inp 32000 -tok
4000 -TB 31 -TM 32 -D 500 -l 1000

-tmpbsize 8 -ttmarshal 5 -lkwtmo 180

-T c:\epicor\mfgwrk803

-db c:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsyssh -ld mfgsyssh -RO

-db mfgsys803 -dt MSS -ld mfgsys

-Dsrv
skip_schema_check,PRGRS_CONNECT,DSN=MFGSYS803,TXN_ISOLATION,1,PRGRS_NATI
VE_LOCKWAIT,30000



And then uses that System DSN to connect to Vantage. You could make a
different DSN and change the parameter there, but for simplicity's sake
I'd suggest just changing the DSN itself and avoid head-scratching by
yourself or your successor. :-)



-bws



--

Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /
Picometrix

bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~
www.advancedphotonix.com





-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of ramsey_burns
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage on Cluster



Ah, I guess that was too obvious for me to figure out.. Thanks Brian.



-Ramsey



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...>
wrote:

>

> Well the 'pointing to a different SQL Server' task is simple: just
change the system DSN with the same name as your OpenEdge database to
point to the new server.

>

> -bws

>

> --

> Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix
/ Picometrix

> bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ramsey_burns

> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:58 AM

> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage on Cluster

>

> Is anyone running on a windows cluster? Couldn't find any info if this
is actually supported or not. A related question, how to direct an
existing install to another SQL server? We're using .407 SQL and
looking at a minimum to split the app server and SQL server but would be
nice to have these be able to fail over to each other. The SQL part
should be no problem but I have no experience with the app server
portion.

>

> Cheers,

>

> -Ramsey

> ramsey@...

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )

> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.

> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages

> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links

>









------------------------------------



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )

(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.

(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages

(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links



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Thanks, I think that will come in handy as I'm doing this. I haven't bothered to learn much about OpenEdge but guess now is the time.

I'll report back if I get it working.

Cheers,

-Ramsey


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...> wrote:
>
> Basically OpenEdge looks at the .PF file for the database and finds
> the DSN= parameter:
>
>
>
> -Mm 1024 -mmax 65534 -Bt 4096 -s 8000 -yy 1970 -stsh 31 -inp 32000 -tok
> 4000 -TB 31 -TM 32 -D 500 -l 1000
>
> -tmpbsize 8 -ttmarshal 5 -lkwtmo 180
>
> -T c:\epicor\mfgwrk803
>
> -db c:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsyssh -ld mfgsyssh -RO
>
> -db mfgsys803 -dt MSS -ld mfgsys
>
> -Dsrv
> skip_schema_check,PRGRS_CONNECT,DSN=MFGSYS803,TXN_ISOLATION,1,PRGRS_NATI
> VE_LOCKWAIT,30000
>
>
>
> And then uses that System DSN to connect to Vantage. You could make a
> different DSN and change the parameter there, but for simplicity's sake
> I'd suggest just changing the DSN itself and avoid head-scratching by
> yourself or your successor. :-)
>
>
>
> -bws
>
>
>
> --
>
> Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /
> Picometrix
>
> bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~
> www.advancedphotonix.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of ramsey_burns
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:23 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage on Cluster
>
>
>
> Ah, I guess that was too obvious for me to figure out.. Thanks Brian.
>
>
>
> -Ramsey
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Well the 'pointing to a different SQL Server' task is simple: just
> change the system DSN with the same name as your OpenEdge database to
> point to the new server.
>
> >
>
> > -bws
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix
> / Picometrix
>
> > bspolarich@ ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.com
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of ramsey_burns
>
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:58 AM
>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage on Cluster
>
> >
>
> > Is anyone running on a windows cluster? Couldn't find any info if this
> is actually supported or not. A related question, how to direct an
> existing install to another SQL server? We're using .407 SQL and
> looking at a minimum to split the app server and SQL server but would be
> nice to have these be able to fail over to each other. The SQL part
> should be no problem but I have no experience with the app server
> portion.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > -Ramsey
>
> > ramsey@
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
>
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
>
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
>
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
>
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
>
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/
>
>
>
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>
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/join
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