VPN Connection to emfg

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Shirley,

Do you have the contact information for this service?

Thanks,
Jamie

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Jamie Copsey
Information Systems Coordinator
Accurate Metal Fabricators, Inc.
1011 Seal Beach Blvd
Seal Beach, CA 90704
(562) 596-4740 x138
Fax: (562) 596-6799
jcopsey@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirley H. Graver [SMTP:shirleyg@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:36 AM
> To: vantage@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg
>
> Just for everyone's edification, Hughs network has just brought two way
> satelite connections to the market place. In other words, always on,
> wireless internet connection. I currently have Downlink and modem
> connect.
> Downlink is up to 800 kbs per second, and averages 400. The uplink will
> be
> 128 kb up, with optional 256 k service. Right now monthly connection
> costs
> of the Downlink, with ISP, is $49.00 unlimited access. I cant wait to
> ditch
> the copper, the phone company, the internal phone system. This isnt a
> commercial, I looked at other connection options, the costs for speed are
> unreal. To me this looks like a decent compromise between cost and speed.
>
> Shirley Graver
> (End User)
> Sys Admin
> Rubber associates Inc.
> Cleveland/Akron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:17 PM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg
>
>
> Not yet but definitely going to try it in late Feb. when our T1 Internet
> connection is installed. I have cable modem at home that averages about
> T1
> speed and am counting on being able to do RB projects from there. I'm
> installing a SonicWall firewall that includes VPN and am curious about
> the
> performance hit encryption will cause. I will report back here probably
> in
> early March, depending on how slow Qwest (old US West) is about
> installing
> the"last mile".
>
> -Todd Caughey
> Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Engemann, Mark [mailto:mengemann@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:24 AM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg
>
>
> Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN connection
> with
> out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner would
> be
> appreciated.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Mark Engemann
> Business Application Manager
> Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
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> Fax: 314.692-9195
> E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...
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Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN connection with
out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner would be
appreciated.

Respectfully,

Mark Engemann
Business Application Manager
Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
Voice: 314.432.4644
Fax: 314.692-9195
E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...
3
we thought about it but unless you have a great connection at home or
wherever (i.e. cable or DSL it was slow as hell) In 2 weeks we are
implementing a citrix server because after much research and discussion it
made more sense to go citrix.
-----Original Message-----
From: Engemann, Mark [mailto:mengemann@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:24 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN connection with
out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner would be
appreciated.

Respectfully,

Mark Engemann
Business Application Manager
Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
Voice: 314.432.4644
Fax: 314.692-9195
E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...


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Mark,

It's too slow !!!!! (unless your VPN has LAN style bandwidth). I tried it
over an ISDN line with RAS and it took 14 minutes to get the logon prompt.
Vantage sends about 20 meg of data to the client just to get to the logon
prompt. You can reduce this by caching at the client but then maintenance
becomes a real hassle, and it's still really slow moving from menu to menu.


Jerry Solobay

IS/IT Manager

Ebco Aerospace


-----Original Message-----
From: Engemann, Mark [SMTP:mengemann@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 6:24 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg

Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN
connection with
out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner
would be
appreciated.

Respectfully,

Mark Engemann
Business Application Manager
Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
Voice: 314.432.4644
Fax: 314.692-9195
E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...


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The only other option would be PcAnywhere from the outside PC through VPN to
your desktop PC in the office or several PC's dedicated to just this
purpose.

Citrix is a wonderful thing if you are supported a bunch of connections but
if you only need 1 to 8 connections it's probably cheaper to use PcAnywhere.


We just purchased some 866 mhz / 256 meg RAM / 20 meg hard drives - no
monitors for $ 1,048 each. Stack up 8 with a Cybex unit and 1 monitor and
keyboard and you are off to the races. Lots cheaper then WTS/Citrix.

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Trzaska, Mark [mailto:mtrzaska@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:30 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


we thought about it but unless you have a great connection at home or
wherever (i.e. cable or DSL it was slow as hell) In 2 weeks we are
implementing a citrix server because after much research and discussion it
made more sense to go citrix.
-----Original Message-----
From: Engemann, Mark [mailto:mengemann@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:24 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN connection with
out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner would be
appreciated.

Respectfully,

Mark Engemann
Business Application Manager
Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
Voice: 314.432.4644
Fax: 314.692-9195
E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...


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I would guess that it would be unbearably slow. We tried it without
Terminal Server over a fractional T1 and also over a full T1 and the
performance was unuseable in both cases. It took 3-10 minutes for the logon
to come up. Then 30 s to several minutes going from screen to screen.
7
At 11:16 AM 1/19/2001 , you wrote:
>It's too slow !!!!! (unless your VPN has LAN style bandwidth). I tried it
>over an ISDN line with RAS and it took 14 minutes to get the logon prompt.
>Vantage sends about 20 meg of data to the client just to get to the logon
>prompt. You can reduce this by caching at the client but then maintenance

Was that just the DB traffic going over the line? Or was the shared drive
on the remote side, too?

-Wayne
8
Terminal Server for Windows 2000 is also a viable option, just make sure
your clients are Win2k Prof. so that you don't have to by terminal client
licensing. It took me about 40 minutes to setup, including printer
redirection and it works slick. I haven't tested it at dial up speeds yet
but I suspect the performance will be reasonable.

Oleg Tumarkin
Herker Industries



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [SMTP:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:14 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg

The only other option would be PcAnywhere from the outside PC through VPN
to
your desktop PC in the office or several PC's dedicated to just this
purpose.

Citrix is a wonderful thing if you are supported a bunch of connections but
if you only need 1 to 8 connections it's probably cheaper to use
PcAnywhere.


We just purchased some 866 mhz / 256 meg RAM / 20 meg hard drives - no
monitors for $ 1,048 each. Stack up 8 with a Cybex unit and 1 monitor and
keyboard and you are off to the races. Lots cheaper then WTS/Citrix.

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Trzaska, Mark [mailto:mtrzaska@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:30 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


we thought about it but unless you have a great connection at home or
wherever (i.e. cable or DSL it was slow as hell) In 2 weeks we are
implementing a citrix server because after much research and discussion it
made more sense to go citrix.
-----Original Message-----
From: Engemann, Mark [mailto:mengemann@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:24 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN connection with
out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner would be
appreciated.

Respectfully,

Mark Engemann
Business Application Manager
Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
Voice: 314.432.4644
Fax: 314.692-9195
E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...


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Not yet but definitely going to try it in late Feb. when our T1 Internet
connection is installed. I have cable modem at home that averages about T1
speed and am counting on being able to do RB projects from there. I'm
installing a SonicWall firewall that includes VPN and am curious about the
performance hit encryption will cause. I will report back here probably in
early March, depending on how slow Qwest (old US West) is about installing
the"last mile".

-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

-----Original Message-----
From: Engemann, Mark [mailto:mengemann@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:24 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN connection with
out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner would be
appreciated.

Respectfully,

Mark Engemann
Business Application Manager
Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
Voice: 314.432.4644
Fax: 314.692-9195
E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...



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Wayne,

The setup was the same as a standard locally connected client. The remote
client Drive was mapped to the real Vantage Share on the Server side.

The only things resident on the client where the Progress client S/W, the
c:\vntgwork directory, the startup .VTG file and the mapped drive to the
Vantage share.

Does that answer your question? (I don't really know what was in the 20 odd
Meg of stuff that came across the wire)

Best regards,

Jerry Solobay

IS/IT Manager

Ebco Aerospace


-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [SMTP:wmc@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:54 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg

At 11:16 AM 1/19/2001 , you wrote:
>It's too slow !!!!! (unless your VPN has LAN style bandwidth). I
tried it
>over an ISDN line with RAS and it took 14 minutes to get the logon
prompt.
>Vantage sends about 20 meg of data to the client just to get to the
logon
>prompt. You can reduce this by caching at the client but then
maintenance

Was that just the DB traffic going over the line? Or was the shared
drive
on the remote side, too?

-Wayne


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Just for everyone's edification, Hughs network has just brought two way
satelite connections to the market place. In other words, always on,
wireless internet connection. I currently have Downlink and modem connect.
Downlink is up to 800 kbs per second, and averages 400. The uplink will be
128 kb up, with optional 256 k service. Right now monthly connection costs
of the Downlink, with ISP, is $49.00 unlimited access. I cant wait to ditch
the copper, the phone company, the internal phone system. This isnt a
commercial, I looked at other connection options, the costs for speed are
unreal. To me this looks like a decent compromise between cost and speed.

Shirley Graver
(End User)
Sys Admin
Rubber associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:17 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


Not yet but definitely going to try it in late Feb. when our T1 Internet
connection is installed. I have cable modem at home that averages about
T1
speed and am counting on being able to do RB projects from there. I'm
installing a SonicWall firewall that includes VPN and am curious about the
performance hit encryption will cause. I will report back here probably
in
early March, depending on how slow Qwest (old US West) is about installing
the"last mile".

-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

-----Original Message-----
From: Engemann, Mark [mailto:mengemann@...]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:24 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] VPN Connection to emfg


Has anyone tried or accomplished hitting Vantage over a VPN connection
with
out utilizing Terminal server or Citrix. Any help in this manner would be
appreciated.

Respectfully,

Mark Engemann
Business Application Manager
Hydromat, Inc. / Turmatic Systems
Voice: 314.432.4644
Fax: 314.692-9195
E-mail: mengemann@... / mengemann@...



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