Web service Type

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Not true... WSE will work comfortably in VS2010 / .net 4.0... 3.0/3.5 are only extensions to 2.0. It is a matter of how you create the pages in VS using the wizards. It will try to push you in the WCF path.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Vonderhaar" <tvonderhaar@...> wrote:
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> I went through the very same question you are asking. You can actually install and use both, but as the others have said, WCF is the way to go if you are starting fresh. I believe there is also a framework limitation with WSE. I think 2.0 is the highest it will support.
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> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Rob Bucek <rbucek@> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT director is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very familiar with those concepts, the destructions say we can continue with WSE but should I consider converting to WCF? What is the difference between the two? If I don't convert, what opportunities or functionality am I giving up? Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > Rob Bucek
> > Production Control Manager
> > PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> > Mobile: (715)896-0590
> > FAX: (715)284-4084
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All,

We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT director is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very familiar with those concepts, the destructions say we can continue with WSE but should I consider converting to WCF? What is the difference between the two? If I don't convert, what opportunities or functionality am I giving up? Thanks in advance for your input.

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-0590
FAX: (715)284-4084
[Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>



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WCF t is the new stuff that M$ has been pushing for a while now, its easier
to setup and "faster"... If you already have WSE applications i'd let it
be, but eventually it will be phased out.

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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> All,
>
> We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT director
> is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very familiar with those
> concepts, the destructions say we can continue with WSE but should I
> consider converting to WCF? What is the difference between the two? If I
> don't convert, what opportunities or functionality am I giving up? Thanks
> in advance for your input.
>
> Rob Bucek
> Production Control Manager
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
> FAX: (715)284-4084
> [Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<
> http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> (Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Go WCF.
WSE is old and supported for compatibility purposes.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> All,
>
> We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT director
> is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very familiar with those
> concepts, the destructions say we can continue with WSE but should I
> consider converting to WCF? What is the difference between the two? If I
> don't convert, what opportunities or functionality am I giving up? Thanks
> in advance for your input.
>
> Rob Bucek
> Production Control Manager
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
> FAX: (715)284-4084
> [Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<
> http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> (Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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Primarily for us I believe that would be service connect

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-0590
FAX: (715)284-4084

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:34 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Web service Type

WCF t is the new stuff that M$ has been pushing for a while now, its easier to setup and "faster"... If you already have WSE applications i'd let it be, but eventually it will be phased out.

*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*checkout my new blog <http://www.usdoingstuff.com> *
*
*T: 904.469.1524 mobile
E: jose@...
http://www.josecgomez.com
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<http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
<http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
<http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
<http://www.usdoingstuff.com>

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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> All,
>
> We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT
> director is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very
> familiar with those concepts, the destructions say we can continue
> with WSE but should I consider converting to WCF? What is the
> difference between the two? If I don't convert, what opportunities or
> functionality am I giving up? Thanks in advance for your input.
>
> Rob Bucek
> Production Control Manager
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
> FAX: (715)284-4084
> [Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<
> http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> (Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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The others are correct about WCF being the new MS route of preference. I have used both and kind of prefer the older WSE. However, sooner or later MS has threatened to drop this support. WCF does have options for "better" performance, but you will need to stay in an MS environment to see this increase and spend sometime tuning. If you are connecting to platforms (ie LAMP/PHP/JAVA) other than MS I would never consider WCF.

Also, since we have started using Epicor I have found the Epicor WCF/E services painfully slow, plus licensing model is not real clear either. Direct reference to the BO gives the best performance so we wrap them in our own 'tuned service'.




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:
>
> Primarily for us I believe that would be service connect
>
> Rob Bucek
> Production Control Manager
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
> FAX: (715)284-4084
>
> (Click the logo to view our site)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Web service Type
>
> WCF t is the new stuff that M$ has been pushing for a while now, its easier to setup and "faster"... If you already have WSE applications i'd let it be, but eventually it will be phased out.
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *checkout my new blog <http://www.usdoingstuff.com> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@...
> http://www.josecgomez.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT
> > director is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very
> > familiar with those concepts, the destructions say we can continue
> > with WSE but should I consider converting to WCF? What is the
> > difference between the two? If I don't convert, what opportunities or
> > functionality am I giving up? Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > Rob Bucek
> > Production Control Manager
> > PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> > Mobile: (715)896-0590
> > FAX: (715)284-4084
> > [Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<
> > http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> > (Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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I went through the very same question you are asking. You can actually install and use both, but as the others have said, WCF is the way to go if you are starting fresh. I believe there is also a framework limitation with WSE. I think 2.0 is the highest it will support.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT director is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very familiar with those concepts, the destructions say we can continue with WSE but should I consider converting to WCF? What is the difference between the two? If I don't convert, what opportunities or functionality am I giving up? Thanks in advance for your input.
>
> Rob Bucek
> Production Control Manager
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
> FAX: (715)284-4084
> [Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> (Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Thanks everyone for your insight!



Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-0590
FAX: (715)284-4084
[Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:53 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Web service Type



The others are correct about WCF being the new MS route of preference. I have used both and kind of prefer the older WSE. However, sooner or later MS has threatened to drop this support. WCF does have options for "better" performance, but you will need to stay in an MS environment to see this increase and spend sometime tuning. If you are connecting to platforms (ie LAMP/PHP/JAVA) other than MS I would never consider WCF.

Also, since we have started using Epicor I have found the Epicor WCF/E services painfully slow, plus licensing model is not real clear either. Direct reference to the BO gives the best performance so we wrap them in our own 'tuned service'.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:
>
> Primarily for us I believe that would be service connect
>
> Rob Bucek
> Production Control Manager
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
> FAX: (715)284-4084
>
> (Click the logo to view our site)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Web service Type
>
> WCF t is the new stuff that M$ has been pushing for a while now, its easier to setup and "faster"... If you already have WSE applications i'd let it be, but eventually it will be phased out.
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *checkout my new blog <http://www.usdoingstuff.com> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@...
> http://www.josecgomez.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are finally installing our test environment for 9.05... my IT
> > director is asking me about WSE vs WCF and im like WTF? Not very
> > familiar with those concepts, the destructions say we can continue
> > with WSE but should I consider converting to WCF? What is the
> > difference between the two? If I don't convert, what opportunities or
> > functionality am I giving up? Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > Rob Bucek
> > Production Control Manager
> > PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> > Mobile: (715)896-0590
> > FAX: (715)284-4084
> > [Description: cid:1.234354861@...]<
> > http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> > (Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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