Wiring question - Floor ducts

Todd:

When we built new a couple of years ago, we used both 4 and six inch pipe
under the slabs. This may seem like quite an expense, but we have already
had to pull SIX new wires through one of those pipes (relocated the
inspection department) and, gosh, the guy doing it was so happy the pipe was
big enough. We do have some 1 inch, but it is almost all overhead.

One thing to look out for, and it's obvious, I know, but here it is -- make
sure your turns aren't too tight.

Oh, and seal them up -- we pulled a lot of dead mice out of them.
Lydia

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:todd.anderson@...]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:58 PM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts


It's been an amusing day ... how about "use some ideas" instead of "you some
ideas" ....

ugh ...

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Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:18 PM
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Subject: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts


Does anyone have any reasonably current knowledge on floor duct systems for
wiring?

As in - concrete slab for a floor and a number of spots that cannot be
reached from the ceiling which is forcing conduit or floor ducts for wiring.


At issue is power, network, phone, and cable TV runs.

Contractor was suggesting 1 inch conduit for 50-60 foot runs throughout the
building. Yeah sure ... Even if we could pull 3-4 cat-5's ++ 2 phones + 1
cable through 1 inch conduit at that distance I'd hate to think what the
next guy would think 5 years from now when they have to ADD a wire ....

If anyone has dealt with a slab wiring scheme of late I could sure you some
ideas.

Please reply off list.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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Does anyone have any reasonably current knowledge on floor duct systems for
wiring?

As in - concrete slab for a floor and a number of spots that cannot be
reached from the ceiling which is forcing conduit or floor ducts for wiring.


At issue is power, network, phone, and cable TV runs.

Contractor was suggesting 1 inch conduit for 50-60 foot runs throughout the
building. Yeah sure ... Even if we could pull 3-4 cat-5's ++ 2 phones + 1
cable through 1 inch conduit at that distance I'd hate to think what the
next guy would think 5 years from now when they have to ADD a wire ....

If anyone has dealt with a slab wiring scheme of late I could sure you some
ideas.

Please reply off list.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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It's been an amusing day ... how about "use some ideas" instead of "you some
ideas" ....

ugh ...

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:18 PM
To: 'Vantage @ YahooGroups. Com'
Subject: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts


Does anyone have any reasonably current knowledge on floor duct systems for
wiring?

As in - concrete slab for a floor and a number of spots that cannot be
reached from the ceiling which is forcing conduit or floor ducts for wiring.


At issue is power, network, phone, and cable TV runs.

Contractor was suggesting 1 inch conduit for 50-60 foot runs throughout the
building. Yeah sure ... Even if we could pull 3-4 cat-5's ++ 2 phones + 1
cable through 1 inch conduit at that distance I'd hate to think what the
next guy would think 5 years from now when they have to ADD a wire ....

If anyone has dealt with a slab wiring scheme of late I could sure you some
ideas.

Please reply off list.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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I don't have any first hand, but personally, 1 inch isn't big enough, not
for all that, I'd be looking at some kind of covered tray. We've been
looking at wiring our presses, (40 in groups of 8) for a control program
we're writing. The cable would rest in covered trays to a collection point
on one end.

Shirley

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts

It's been an amusing day ... how about "use some ideas" instead of "you some
ideas" ....

ugh ...

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:18 PM
To: 'Vantage @ YahooGroups. Com'
Subject: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts


Does anyone have any reasonably current knowledge on floor duct systems for
wiring?

As in - concrete slab for a floor and a number of spots that cannot be
reached from the ceiling which is forcing conduit or floor ducts for wiring.


At issue is power, network, phone, and cable TV runs.

Contractor was suggesting 1 inch conduit for 50-60 foot runs throughout the
building. Yeah sure ... Even if we could pull 3-4 cat-5's ++ 2 phones + 1
cable through 1 inch conduit at that distance I'd hate to think what the
next guy would think 5 years from now when they have to ADD a wire ....

If anyone has dealt with a slab wiring scheme of late I could sure you some
ideas.

Please reply off list.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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Have you thought of PVC pipe? It is cheap (relatively speaking), tough,
looks decent and is large enough for your wiring needs. Wires move through
it pretty easy - especially if you're using a wire puller, etc... You don't
have to use the compound to seal all of the junctions together. This would
give you the flexibility to take certain sections apart if needed. You can
buy a series of bends to get over / around any obstacles you may encounter.

We haven't used PVC for any extended runs but we have used it for 15 foot
runs up walls. We've also used it for shorter runs through the concrete
walls in the factory.


Chris



Christopher Gitzlaff, MSCIS
Manager - Information Systems & Technology
Major Industries, Inc.
Phone: 715.842.4616 ext. 323
Email: cgitzlaff@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:todd.anderson@...]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:18 PM
To: 'Vantage @ YahooGroups. Com'
Subject: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts


Does anyone have any reasonably current knowledge on floor duct systems for
wiring?

As in - concrete slab for a floor and a number of spots that cannot be
reached from the ceiling which is forcing conduit or floor ducts for wiring.


At issue is power, network, phone, and cable TV runs.

Contractor was suggesting 1 inch conduit for 50-60 foot runs throughout the
building. Yeah sure ... Even if we could pull 3-4 cat-5's ++ 2 phones + 1
cable through 1 inch conduit at that distance I'd hate to think what the
next guy would think 5 years from now when they have to ADD a wire ....

If anyone has dealt with a slab wiring scheme of late I could sure you some
ideas.

Please reply off list.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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We have jack hammered concrete up and installed PVC pipe under commercial carpet. The first time it was only ¾"! I got 7 CAT5 wires through that pipe. The second time we ran 1" PVC and I can easily get 8 CAT5 wires down that pipe. Fishing this PVC is very easy. I used CAT5 and a special device for under $200 that sends VGA over CAT5 for our conference room tables up to the projector! A separate PVC pipe was run in parallel for electric.



Joe Luster

Cold Jet



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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts



Have you thought of PVC pipe? It is cheap (relatively speaking), tough,
looks decent and is large enough for your wiring needs. Wires move through
it pretty easy - especially if you're using a wire puller, etc... You don't
have to use the compound to seal all of the junctions together. This would
give you the flexibility to take certain sections apart if needed. You can
buy a series of bends to get over / around any obstacles you may encounter.

We haven't used PVC for any extended runs but we have used it for 15 foot
runs up walls. We've also used it for shorter runs through the concrete
walls in the factory.


Chris



Christopher Gitzlaff, MSCIS
Manager - Information Systems & Technology
Major Industries, Inc.
Phone: 715.842.4616 ext. 323
Email: cgitzlaff@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:todd.anderson@...]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:18 PM
To: 'Vantage @ YahooGroups. Com'
Subject: [Vantage] Wiring question - Floor ducts


Does anyone have any reasonably current knowledge on floor duct systems for
wiring?

As in - concrete slab for a floor and a number of spots that cannot be
reached from the ceiling which is forcing conduit or floor ducts for wiring.


At issue is power, network, phone, and cable TV runs.

Contractor was suggesting 1 inch conduit for 50-60 foot runs throughout the
building. Yeah sure ... Even if we could pull 3-4 cat-5's ++ 2 phones + 1
cable through 1 inch conduit at that distance I'd hate to think what the
next guy would think 5 years from now when they have to ADD a wire ....

If anyone has dealt with a slab wiring scheme of late I could sure you some
ideas.

Please reply off list.

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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