I am still running 6.1 but I understand one of the objectives of 8.03 was an
increase in performance over 8.0. Has this not been met?
John Walter
Hufcor Pty Ltd
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Litzau
Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2007 1:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Performance Ramblings
I am on 8.00.810c and every time this group talks about performance it seems
to get worse as the Patch Levels go up. I was going to go to 8.00.811 in a
couple of weeks and I am looking at 8.03.xxx but my users complain of the
slowness now. If I upgrade to get he new features they will scream about the
performance.
We are a small manufacturer that had 5 separate systems running what we
consolidated into Vantage, a blessing from an IT standpoint and the
visibility and historical perspective. I went through a lengthy evaluation
time and then a group of key people choose Vantage over 4 other systems for
the feature set and customization possibilities. In my environment I
continue to have to make my users see why we went with a new system. They
are frustrated with the lack of performance, as am I.
I know that Epicor people monitor this group and all I have to say is that
Epicor should be committed to rectifying performance issue we all have seen
and experienced. Until they do that then having new features in an upgraded
version is just not worth it. AND make us aware that you are aware of the
situation and inform us what you are doing to improve it. Communicate,
communicate, communicate. It is so simple and would let us know you hear our
concerns.
In the last few days, after reading all the posts regarding performance, it
has become apparent that I need to take all my desktops to 2GB RAM, they are
at 1GB now, maybe I should just max them to 4GB for XP (32 bit). I thought
1GB at the time should be plenty, but it has become obvious that is not so.
So besides the cost for Vantage I need to incur additional costs just to
make sure the user experience is tolerable. As a small manufacturer we are
always watching costs, our margin for bad decisions is not as great as
larger manufacturers.
That's my rant.
Scott Litzau
IT Manager
Olympus Flag & Banner
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Joe Rojas
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Performance Ramblings
We are on 8.03.304C and each line added increases subsequent load times.
Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas@...
________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of bw2868bond
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Performance Ramblings
Well, the 'wheel' wants to keep my PC. No noticable difference
connecting pc between 100T and 1000T. The 3.0 GHz processor and 2 Gb
ram helped.
New problem noticed after moving from 809f to 811...
In POEntry, time to add line item to 65 line PO has increased
dramatically from 809f to 811. Support dwells on our customization of
the form but the slowdown is evident on the base module. Anyone else
notice performance slowdown with PO Entry on Many lined POs??
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Stephen Edginton" <stephene@...>
wrote:
Behalf
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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increase in performance over 8.0. Has this not been met?
John Walter
Hufcor Pty Ltd
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Litzau
Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2007 1:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Performance Ramblings
I am on 8.00.810c and every time this group talks about performance it seems
to get worse as the Patch Levels go up. I was going to go to 8.00.811 in a
couple of weeks and I am looking at 8.03.xxx but my users complain of the
slowness now. If I upgrade to get he new features they will scream about the
performance.
We are a small manufacturer that had 5 separate systems running what we
consolidated into Vantage, a blessing from an IT standpoint and the
visibility and historical perspective. I went through a lengthy evaluation
time and then a group of key people choose Vantage over 4 other systems for
the feature set and customization possibilities. In my environment I
continue to have to make my users see why we went with a new system. They
are frustrated with the lack of performance, as am I.
I know that Epicor people monitor this group and all I have to say is that
Epicor should be committed to rectifying performance issue we all have seen
and experienced. Until they do that then having new features in an upgraded
version is just not worth it. AND make us aware that you are aware of the
situation and inform us what you are doing to improve it. Communicate,
communicate, communicate. It is so simple and would let us know you hear our
concerns.
In the last few days, after reading all the posts regarding performance, it
has become apparent that I need to take all my desktops to 2GB RAM, they are
at 1GB now, maybe I should just max them to 4GB for XP (32 bit). I thought
1GB at the time should be plenty, but it has become obvious that is not so.
So besides the cost for Vantage I need to incur additional costs just to
make sure the user experience is tolerable. As a small manufacturer we are
always watching costs, our margin for bad decisions is not as great as
larger manufacturers.
That's my rant.
Scott Litzau
IT Manager
Olympus Flag & Banner
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Joe Rojas
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Performance Ramblings
We are on 8.03.304C and each line added increases subsequent load times.
Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas@...
________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of bw2868bond
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Performance Ramblings
Well, the 'wheel' wants to keep my PC. No noticable difference
connecting pc between 100T and 1000T. The 3.0 GHz processor and 2 Gb
ram helped.
New problem noticed after moving from 809f to 811...
In POEntry, time to add line item to 65 line PO has increased
dramatically from 809f to 811. Support dwells on our customization of
the form but the slowdown is evident on the base module. Anyone else
notice performance slowdown with PO Entry on Many lined POs??
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Stephen Edginton" <stephene@...>
wrote:
>connections to
> Keep us posted Bernie I have not found teaming on gigabit
> have any impact on speed for the clients might do some testing![mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
>
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Behalf
> Of bw2868bondheavily
> Sent: 21 March 2007 16:10
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Performance Ramblings
>
>
>
> A few weeks back, I was looking into 'performance'. Being 'old
> school' I figured performance of the Vantage product depended
> on server horsepower. I watched CPU and network utilization of myas
> workstation while locking a workorder. My P4 3 Ghz machine went to
> nearly 100% processor usage and network traffic had a large spike
> well. It took roughly 8 seconds to lock the job.and
>
> I looked at the server with it's two nic ports and single cable....
> I connected a second cable from nic to hub and enabled 'teaming'
> effectivly doubling my nic speed. I performed the same lock process
> on my workstation and this time the network utilization increased
> finished in 4 seconds...just
>
> My presumtion is I have a highly capable server loafing around
> waiting for the network and the clients to do all the work. My test
> network is only 100 baseT but even on the production network,
> improvement has been seen by nic teaming in a gigabit switched
> environment.
>
> Tomorrow I will be letting a 'squeaky wheel' use my workstation to
> see what kind of difference is evident
>
> >
> >
> > Scott writes:
> > >... We are on Vantage 8.00.810c and I am
> > > always looking for ways to improve client performance beyond
> > > hardware upgrades.the
> >
> > This multi-tiered architecture makes it difficult to see where
> time5%
> > is
> > spent while waiting for transactions. My server is RARELY above
> cpurunning
> > usage,
> > my hit rates are in the 90% range (who database in memory),
> GBon
> > ethernet, but some things (like saving work orders) is awfully
> slow. Are
> > there
> > any tools that help determine where the time is spent on these
> > transactions?
> > Time on the client? Time in transit? Time on the server? Etc.
> >
> > I suspect that a lot of time is wasted marshalling and un-
> marshalling
> > data
> > to/from XML in the ADO.Net stack but I'm not sure how to improve
> > that.lot
> > Throwing hardware works for a while but it seems that there's a
> of[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > room
> > for improvement.
> >
> > Just wondering...
> >
> > Mark W.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links