Part Number Schemes

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What is auto assigned part numbers?

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce Butler
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Part Number Schemes

One time only parts, I would not bother. We have about 6 people creating
parts. This is roughly 1500 different part numbers. It sounds like you are
mainly referring to finished goods. In order to expedite the implementation
process, auto assigned numbers sound like a benefit for you.

Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of mustardbuzzards
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Part Number Schemes

How many parts?
How many different people have the capability of creating a part?
Do you have custom parts or parts that are used only one time?

We are still implementing and we have yet to make a decision on our
part number system. We have approximately 53,000 parts. Only
guessing that at least a third are custom one time only parts.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Bruce Butler" <bbutler@...> wrote:
>
> To answer how we format our Raw Extruded Material:
6061T6XR00250X05000
>
> 6061 is a 4 digit indication of the material type
>
> T6X is a 3 digit indication of material process
(notice the X is a place holder). If I had it to do over, I would
make it 4 -5 characters.
>
> R is a single digit representing the shape
of the material
>
> 00250 is the thickness of the material. The '.' is
assumed after the first two digits. This would be ¼" round.
>
> X in this position simply means 'by'
>
> 05000 is the width of the material which follows the
rule above ( 5" )
>
>
>
> From there, all the raw material is dimensionally tracked for the
lengths (Another whole topic).
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce Butler
>
> IT Manager
>
> Knappe & Koester, Inc.
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf Of lapulsifer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:17 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Part Number Schemes
>
>
>
> Hello, my company is in Phase 2 of our Vantage 8.0.3
implementation.
>
> We are going through all of the planning meetings now. We have
been
> through Knowledge camp, but not any detailed training.
>
> One thing that we can't seem to agree on is part numbers. We are
> trying to decide on whether to use Intelligent Part numbers or
not?
> If we do use Intelligent Part numbers, then we can't agree on how
to
> format them. Our current part numbers are simply random numbers.
> However, our employees have started to memorize these numbers.
They
> place great importance on these numbers. We are getting lots of
push
> back when we discuss changing our current part numbers.
>
> I am in I.T. and don't really have a working knowledge of the
benefits
> of Part numbers. To me, they shouldn't really matter if you can
> search by other meaningful information in the part master.
>
> I'm interested in hearing from other vantage users. Do you use
> intelligent part numbers? How do you format them? Can you share
the
> pros and cons of your part number formats?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Sorry, non-intelligent part #s.



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stan Chmura
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Part Number Schemes



What is auto assigned part numbers?

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
Bruce Butler
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Part Number Schemes

One time only parts, I would not bother. We have about 6 people creating
parts. This is roughly 1500 different part numbers. It sounds like you are
mainly referring to finished goods. In order to expedite the implementation
process, auto assigned numbers sound like a benefit for you.

Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of mustardbuzzards
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Part Number Schemes

How many parts?
How many different people have the capability of creating a part?
Do you have custom parts or parts that are used only one time?

We are still implementing and we have yet to make a decision on our
part number system. We have approximately 53,000 parts. Only
guessing that at least a third are custom one time only parts.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Bruce Butler" <bbutler@...> wrote:
>
> To answer how we format our Raw Extruded Material:
6061T6XR00250X05000
>
> 6061 is a 4 digit indication of the material type
>
> T6X is a 3 digit indication of material process
(notice the X is a place holder). If I had it to do over, I would
make it 4 -5 characters.
>
> R is a single digit representing the shape
of the material
>
> 00250 is the thickness of the material. The '.' is
assumed after the first two digits. This would be ¼" round.
>
> X in this position simply means 'by'
>
> 05000 is the width of the material which follows the
rule above ( 5" )
>
>
>
> From there, all the raw material is dimensionally tracked for the
lengths (Another whole topic).
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce Butler
>
> IT Manager
>
> Knappe & Koester, Inc.
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf Of lapulsifer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:17 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Part Number Schemes
>
>
>
> Hello, my company is in Phase 2 of our Vantage 8.0.3
implementation.
>
> We are going through all of the planning meetings now. We have
been
> through Knowledge camp, but not any detailed training.
>
> One thing that we can't seem to agree on is part numbers. We are
> trying to decide on whether to use Intelligent Part numbers or
not?
> If we do use Intelligent Part numbers, then we can't agree on how
to
> format them. Our current part numbers are simply random numbers.
> However, our employees have started to memorize these numbers.
They
> place great importance on these numbers. We are getting lots of
push
> back when we discuss changing our current part numbers.
>
> I am in I.T. and don't really have a working knowledge of the
benefits
> of Part numbers. To me, they shouldn't really matter if you can
> search by other meaningful information in the part master.
>
> I'm interested in hearing from other vantage users. Do you use
> intelligent part numbers? How do you format them? Can you share
the
> pros and cons of your part number formats?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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> We are still implementing and we have yet to make a decision on our
> part number system. We have approximately 53,000 parts. Only
> guessing that at least a third are custom one time only parts.

One of the things I have grown to appreciate in Vantage is the Non-Stockable
part number. If you're a configure-to-order or engineer-to-order company, you
can use non-stockable parts to engineer a job and that becomes the
standard/estimated cost. You don't create unneeded part numbers.

I don't want to start a holy-war about part numbering schemes. It's just been
my personal experience that after a while you end up wishing you did it
differently or they get really long. As soon as you get one exception, you
lose the ability to say, "When a customer calls..." just break down the part
number because now someone has to remember "except for a 'Z' is position 7
because that means to look in position 14 for the sub option..." If people put
the same effort into intelligent descriptions and sort fields, they'd be able
to change them if necessary and not get stuck with a key that used in a
hundred different places.

YMWV...

Mark W.
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We use intelligent part numbers for hardware as well as for other parts. It makes life in our plant so much easier.

For example a Grade 5, 1/2" dia. bolt, course thread x 2 inches long would be: 2004-081032

Where 2004 (the base number is for grade 5 hex head bolts)
-08 (the diameter of the bolt in 16ths of an inch
1 (1-for course thread, 2-for fine thread)
032 (the length of the bolt in 16ths of an inch)

So anyone in the plant knows exactly what bolt they need by just looking at the BOM.

We use a similar scheme for all fasteners/hardware and hoses, as well as part numbers that identify whether a number is an assembly or a weldment.

1XXXXXX part numbers are raw material
2XXX part numbers are fasteners/hardware
3XXXX part numbers are hoses and adapters
40XXXXX part numbers are purchased components
48XXXXX part numbers are purchased electrical components
49XXXXX part numbers are purchased hydraulic components
5XXXXXX part numbers are manufactured piece parts or weldments
6XXXXXX part numbers are manufactured assemblies
7XXXXXX part numbers are documents and manuals

We've used our system for 20 years and we still love it. I'm sure it wouldn't work for everyone but when you have a drawing in your hand and no computer terminal close by an intelligent numbering system is great!

I hope this helps!

Ed
Sr. Project Engineer
Manitex



mustardbuzzards <c.edwards@...> wrote: How many parts?
How many different people have the capability of creating a part?
Do you have custom parts or parts that are used only one time?

We are still implementing and we have yet to make a decision on our
part number system. We have approximately 53,000 parts. Only
guessing that at least a third are custom one time only parts.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Butler" <bbutler@...> wrote:
>
> To answer how we format our Raw Extruded Material:
6061T6XR00250X05000
>
> 6061 is a 4 digit indication of the material type
>
> T6X is a 3 digit indication of material process
(notice the X is a place holder). If I had it to do over, I would
make it 4 -5 characters.
>
> R is a single digit representing the shape
of the material
>
> 00250 is the thickness of the material. The '.' is
assumed after the first two digits. This would be ¼" round.
>
> X in this position simply means 'by'
>
> 05000 is the width of the material which follows the
rule above ( 5" )
>
>
>
> From there, all the raw material is dimensionally tracked for the
lengths (Another whole topic).
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce Butler
>
> IT Manager
>
> Knappe & Koester, Inc.
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of lapulsifer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:17 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Part Number Schemes
>
>
>
> Hello, my company is in Phase 2 of our Vantage 8.0.3
implementation.
>
> We are going through all of the planning meetings now. We have
been
> through Knowledge camp, but not any detailed training.
>
> One thing that we can't seem to agree on is part numbers. We are
> trying to decide on whether to use Intelligent Part numbers or
not?
> If we do use Intelligent Part numbers, then we can't agree on how
to
> format them. Our current part numbers are simply random numbers.
> However, our employees have started to memorize these numbers.
They
> place great importance on these numbers. We are getting lots of
push
> back when we discuss changing our current part numbers.
>
> I am in I.T. and don't really have a working knowledge of the
benefits
> of Part numbers. To me, they shouldn't really matter if you can
> search by other meaningful information in the part master.
>
> I'm interested in hearing from other vantage users. Do you use
> intelligent part numbers? How do you format them? Can you share
the
> pros and cons of your part number formats?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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