You should make sure then that the AD is replicating correctly. Look in
"C:\WINNT\SYSVOL" to be sure that they are replicating correctly. One thing
you might try is if you are using both a preferred and an alternate DNS
address try removing the alternate address and using only the "Preffered"
address.
Shirley
_____
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rfc822 Compliance issue From: added by system POTENTIAL SPAM
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1.535] Extreme Delay to Login Screen
Yes. All point to our backup AD server which acts as Primary DNS for the
network (and references outside DNS sources as needed). Something in
particular I should look at there?
Just a thought...we instituted a new password policy last weekend, basically
jut telling eveyone to change their network password. Your question makes
me think.....could the two AD servers be confused about people's credentials
for allowing "share" access? Sort of like the secondary AD was not updated
somehow and if IT is the one validating things at the moment it gets
confused? Hence the randomness? I'll admit I am new to AD issues and
coordianting two controling servers.
Thanks,
-Todd C.
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Shirley Graver
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1.535] Extreme Delay to Login Screen
Todd,
Are your network connections for each workstation pointing to
the primary DNS?
Shirley
_____
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rfc822 Compliance issue From: added by system POTENTIAL SPAM
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1.535] Extreme Delay to Login Screen
Since applying .535 a week ago random users are experiencing random extreme
delays in receiving the login screen. Even when clicking on the splash
screen to make it go away (usually a sure fire speed up) it takes up to 5
minutes to get the login screen (longer if they try 3-4 more times to fire
up Vantage). Normal would be about 12-17 seconds. Nothing else has changed
except the patch. Virus scanning still excludes the Vantage related mapped
dirves. Firewalling is turned off (where applies, this is affecting Win-98
thru XP). Re-installing the Vantage client (but not Progress) doe snot seem
to help either. In some cases Exploring the mapped drive then trying
Vantage results in normal login screen time. Other cases a hard boot will
do it. But not always for either of these. It is also random throughout
the building so not isolated to one switch.
I can't imagine a change in a minor patch being the cause but it sure is
spooky that it started the day after it was put on. I know this has been
beat to death in the past but none of the "usual" fixes seems to work. Any
other ideas?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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< http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+mortgage+software&w1=Manufactu
ring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&
w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketi
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software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=Pd
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turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwar
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&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+market
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufacturing
+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketing+s
oftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA> software
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Manufac
turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwar
e&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marke
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Database
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ring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&
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Pda
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"C:\WINNT\SYSVOL" to be sure that they are replicating correctly. One thing
you might try is if you are using both a preferred and an alternate DNS
address try removing the alternate address and using only the "Preffered"
address.
Shirley
_____
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rfc822 Compliance issue From: added by system POTENTIAL SPAM
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1.535] Extreme Delay to Login Screen
Yes. All point to our backup AD server which acts as Primary DNS for the
network (and references outside DNS sources as needed). Something in
particular I should look at there?
Just a thought...we instituted a new password policy last weekend, basically
jut telling eveyone to change their network password. Your question makes
me think.....could the two AD servers be confused about people's credentials
for allowing "share" access? Sort of like the secondary AD was not updated
somehow and if IT is the one validating things at the moment it gets
confused? Hence the randomness? I'll admit I am new to AD issues and
coordianting two controling servers.
Thanks,
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Shirley Graver
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1.535] Extreme Delay to Login Screen
Todd,
Are your network connections for each workstation pointing to
the primary DNS?
Shirley
_____
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rfc822 Compliance issue From: added by system POTENTIAL SPAM
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1.535] Extreme Delay to Login Screen
Since applying .535 a week ago random users are experiencing random extreme
delays in receiving the login screen. Even when clicking on the splash
screen to make it go away (usually a sure fire speed up) it takes up to 5
minutes to get the login screen (longer if they try 3-4 more times to fire
up Vantage). Normal would be about 12-17 seconds. Nothing else has changed
except the patch. Virus scanning still excludes the Vantage related mapped
dirves. Firewalling is turned off (where applies, this is affecting Win-98
thru XP). Re-installing the Vantage client (but not Progress) doe snot seem
to help either. In some cases Exploring the mapped drive then trying
Vantage results in normal login screen time. Other cases a hard boot will
do it. But not always for either of these. It is also random throughout
the building so not isolated to one switch.
I can't imagine a change in a minor patch being the cause but it sure is
spooky that it started the day after it was put on. I know this has been
beat to death in the past but none of the "usual" fixes seems to work. Any
other ideas?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
< http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing
< http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufacturing
> &k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufacturing>&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufacturing
+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketing+s
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Membership
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Manufac
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turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwar
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Database
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+mortgage+software&w1=Manufactu
> &k=Database+mortgage+software&w1=Manufactu>&k=Database+mortgage+software&w1=Manufactu
ring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&
w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketi
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Pda
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pda+database+software&w1=Manufacturing+
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software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=Pd
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Database
< http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+management+software&w1=Manufac
> &k=Database+management+software&w1=Manufac>&k=Database+management+software&w1=Manufac
turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwar
e&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marke
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Database
< http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manufact
> &k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manufact>&k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manufact
uring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software
&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+market
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufacturing
+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketing+s
oftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA>
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