Access

Mitch,
with 2003 and earlier, you could distribute the mde free of charge, but end user needed Access installed to see it.
I am talking about end user not having any version of Access installed at all.
VSOT is basically a license for you to develop your mdb, and distribute a run-time Access .exe, free of royalty.

But as Mr. Rose points out, seems you can distribute 2007 databases free of royalty without the VSOT.

However, Access 2007 is so horrible that I have given up using it. It completely moves away from being a database development tool and tries to hook in Excel users or some other type of user that has nothing to do with the core group of people who traditionally used Access to develop RAD database frontends.



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From: Mitch Appleby <mitch@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 11:12:36 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Access


I'm puzzled ... You say Access won't let you distribute applications
free. We do this all the time using a compiled file ( mde or
accdb)with the free Access run time program on each user's PC. How is
Visual Studio different? Does this give you an exe file? Where could
I get some info on this method?

Mitch Appleby
IS Admin
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> You can purchase Visual Studio Tools for Office, which lets you
create runtime Access applications that you can distribute for free.
> Access itself won't let you do it, you'd need the VSOT
> Personally I think it is a superior means of distributing reporting
tools to users.
> Crystal doesn't hold a candle to a nicely written Access reporting app.
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> To: "vantage@yahoogroups .com" <vantage@yahoogroups .com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 8:01:07 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Access
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If I wanted to link a table from Access to Vantage and run an update query, what setting should my Default Isolation Level be set at for the ODBC driver so it can accept the change on the table?

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Thanks,

Jasper





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-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:35 PM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Access


If I wanted to link a table from Access to Vantage and run an update query, what setting should my Default Isolation Level be set at for the ODBC driver so it can accept the change on the table?

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Thanks,

Jasper





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When you use Access instead of Crystal for your reports, do you have to have Access on all your computers that you want to run the report?

Can you compile the form in Access and distribute it?


Thanks,



Rich Wagner



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No you need access run time if the other pcs do not have a full copy of
access on them



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of RICH WAGNER
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Access



When you use Access instead of Crystal for your reports, do you have to
have Access on all your computers that you want to run the report?

Can you compile the form in Access and distribute it?

Thanks,

Rich Wagner

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You can purchase Visual Studio Tools for Office, which lets you create runtime Access applications that you can distribute for free.
Access itself won't let you do it, you'd need the VSOT
Personally I think it is a superior means of distributing reporting tools to users.
Crystal doesn't hold a candle to a nicely written Access reporting app.



----- Original Message ----
From: RICH WAGNER <rwagner@...>
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 8:01:07 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Access


When you use Access instead of Crystal for your reports, do you have to have Access on all your computers that you want to run the report?

Can you compile the form in Access and distribute it?

Thanks,

Rich Wagner

[cid:image001.jpg@ 01C8E0D9. 28B6E8E0]

412-384-3100

rwagner@bawplastics .com<mailto:rwagner@bawplastics .com>

www.bawplastics. com<http://www.bawplast ics.com/>

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For Access 2003 and earlier versions, you are entirely correct. However, in Access 2007, you do not need to purchase anything to distribute runtime applications (though, obviously, the person developing the app needs to have a full copy of Access). You need to install the free Access runtime application on your client's PC's. Then, make a copy of your Access application and change the extension from accdb to accdr. Your clients can run the accdr file. You should only do this in an environment where you trust your users. An evil user with a full copy of Access can change the accdr extension back to accdb and then change anything in the database. The security in an accdr is no better than in an accdb. There may be ways to better secure the app, but I have not been in an environment yet where I needed to worry about that.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [Vantage] Access


You can purchase Visual Studio Tools for Office, which lets you create runtime Access applications that you can distribute for free.
Access itself won't let you do it, you'd need the VSOT
Personally I think it is a superior means of distributing reporting tools to users.
Crystal doesn't hold a candle to a nicely written Access reporting app.

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From: RICH WAGNER <rwagner@...<mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>>
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>" <vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 8:01:07 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Access

When you use Access instead of Crystal for your reports, do you have to have Access on all your computers that you want to run the report?

Can you compile the form in Access and distribute it?

Thanks,

Rich Wagner

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412-384-3100

rwagner@bawplastics .com<mailto:rwagner@bawplastics .com>

www.bawplastics. com<http://www.bawplast ics.com/>

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I'm puzzled ... You say Access won't let you distribute applications
free. We do this all the time using a compiled file ( mde or
accdb)with the free Access run time program on each user's PC. How is
Visual Studio different? Does this give you an exe file? Where could
I get some info on this method?

Mitch Appleby
IS Admin
Dubuque Stamping




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Tony Hughes <thughes281@...> wrote:
>
> You can purchase Visual Studio Tools for Office, which lets you
create runtime Access applications that you can distribute for free.
> Access itself won't let you do it, you'd need the VSOT
> Personally I think it is a superior means of distributing reporting
tools to users.
> Crystal doesn't hold a candle to a nicely written Access reporting app.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: RICH WAGNER <rwagner@...>
> To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 8:01:07 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Access
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> When you use Access instead of Crystal for your reports, do you have
to have Access on all your computers that you want to run the report?
>
> Can you compile the form in Access and distribute it?
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> Thanks,
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> Rich Wagner
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> [cid:image001.jpg@ 01C8E0D9. 28B6E8E0]
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> 412-384-3100
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> rwagner@bawplastics .com<mailto:rwagner@bawplastics .com>
>
> www.bawplastics. com<http://www.bawplast ics.com/>
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