Add Purchase Components to Unfirm Jobs

We are currently developing BOMs for medium-complexity manufactured components. We have been testing MRP for purchase components and are pretty comfortable with how everything works. I need to cover a gap where some products have BOMs and some do not. My plan was for those Jobs with no BOM and not passing through the configurator to add long-lead-time material to unfirm jobs. Is this possible? Will I lose this work when a regen MRP is run?

Welcome aboard!

Sounds like you are engineer to order (or at least configure to order since you mention configurator)? You have a confirmed order but the engineering is not yet completed and therefore no BOM/Job to plan against?

Generally speaking, if the product does not have an approved method, you won’t get a Job for it. With that said, you mention configurator so it sounds like you’re building something in a Quote maybe? What is the output of the configurator going to look like here? Will you reconfigure it later when the rules are updated, or is this now a manually engineered Job?

Also generally speaking, Unfirm Jobs are non-modifiable. Are you hoping to add the real long lead time material or a dummy placeholder?

Panning Contracts might be an answer to what you are looking for to fill this gap, but I’m not sure I completely understand what you are trying to do.

Welcome to the party @jyeates!

Yes. When a Regen MRP Process is run, one of the very first things it does is to delete all unfirm jobs. Even if you select the “Recycle MRP Jobs” I would hate to bet the ranch on it,

If you know at least SOME of the BOM, would it be possible to begin the process of building it in Epicor? It’s probably a LOT of additional steps, and if the information comes in in dribs and drabs it’s gonna be a PITA, but maybe other tools (DMT?) could be brought into play.

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Firstly. Welcome aboard @jyeates…

Secondly. @Chad_Smith and @Ernie and @jkane (I know you didn’t post here)…

You LEGENDS… I have learnt soooo much stuff around this part of Kinetic I just don’t know enough about.

Thanks.

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Welcome @jyeates !!

Another thing to be careful of in this situation is the material required dates. If you load up a job with just long lead material on the 0 level, you will run into problems later with the materials not being tied to the correct operations and the dates the system is generating are not accurate. You could do a fake job for the long lead materials and then transfer them to the real job when it is made, but that is a pain. You would have to receive the material to the fake job, return to inventory from the fake job, and then issue to the real job.

Give some more detail and we can comment more.

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Thanks, Chad. For those models that do not have a BoM and are not being run through the configurator, I want to manually load our long lead parts against the Jobs so that I can at least use the MRP across the board on non-configured and configured machines. This is problematic because it is impossible to load material against unfirm orders manually. I have a production order book that is firm 60-90 out at any given time, but I have parts with lead times of 200+ days. Has anyone found a way to do this?

Planning Contracts are intended to deal with that situation. It could be that this may be an answer to your problem.

This and a few other options are discussed a bit in this thread here: Planning of Purchased Parts with Very Long Lead Times

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