Scott,
Thanks for the information. I've got the process working now. We
were trying to adjust the cost of the job using the the Issue /
Return screen. (Much like Jerry's group, I think). After posting
my message, I began digging around and found the Salvage Part field
and kept experimenting until I got it worked out. I ended up doing
what you recommended. (I receive the messages in digest form and
had hammered it out by the time I got your suggestion.)
The biggest challenge was the fact that my machined part actually is
purchased in two stock sizes, with different costs (material per
foot + fixed machining cost). The part is a component in a
configurator product, which can only determine how much to use, not
which size piece to start with (this could be done with 2 part
numbers, but that also complicates it). I was able to manage this
by using both Dimensional Inventory and Lot Costing. It still only
works if complete pieces are issued to the job regardless of actual
length required. I put instructions in the Material Comments as
well as in the Lot and Dimensional descriptions.
All the costs are captured, my inventory is correct and my
controller can stop having a cow about the "but it's still good"
scrap inventory that one of my production managers insists on
keeping.
Thanks again for everyone's help,
Michael Randolph
Purchasing Manager
American Magnetics, Inc.
Thanks for the information. I've got the process working now. We
were trying to adjust the cost of the job using the the Issue /
Return screen. (Much like Jerry's group, I think). After posting
my message, I began digging around and found the Salvage Part field
and kept experimenting until I got it worked out. I ended up doing
what you recommended. (I receive the messages in digest form and
had hammered it out by the time I got your suggestion.)
The biggest challenge was the fact that my machined part actually is
purchased in two stock sizes, with different costs (material per
foot + fixed machining cost). The part is a component in a
configurator product, which can only determine how much to use, not
which size piece to start with (this could be done with 2 part
numbers, but that also complicates it). I was able to manage this
by using both Dimensional Inventory and Lot Costing. It still only
works if complete pieces are issued to the job regardless of actual
length required. I put instructions in the Material Comments as
well as in the Lot and Dimensional descriptions.
All the costs are captured, my inventory is correct and my
controller can stop having a cow about the "but it's still good"
scrap inventory that one of my production managers insists on
keeping.
Thanks again for everyone's help,
Michael Randolph
Purchasing Manager
American Magnetics, Inc.
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lepley, Scott A." <sal@m...> wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot explain why your job costs are not reduced.
> Whenever we have used this function, the costs of the salvaged
material were
> automatically entered by the system based on the costs stored in
the part
> master record. While the user can modify these calculated costs,
I believe
> we have never done so. However, there have been situations where
we needed
> to create a new part record in the part master so that we could
salvage that
> part from a job. In these cases, we also established unit costs
for the new
> part via the cost adjustment function. As far as I know, the job
costs
> have always been reduced appropriately. We have not used this
functionality
> extensively, but it seemed to me that it fit as a solution to
Michael's
> problem.
>
> Regards,
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron.hoyt@v...]
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:27 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] By-products in 6.1
>
> Jerry,
> We are just setting this up 6.1.514.
> We set up the expected salvage in the job material with the
salvage part
> number and value.
> We receive the salvage material from the job, enter the quantity
we are
> receiving. If you click ok we get a message about salvage
material Labor
> credit can't exceed the material labor cost....If you look at the
boxes in
> the lower right for values, you can enter the material cost and
0.00 out the
> labor and burden costs for the salvage material.
> Then receive the part with only a material cost and a quantity and
it will
> allow the receipt.
> The production detail report will reflect the receipt and cost are
adjusted
> properly.
> Does this help solve your issue Jerry?
> Good luck,
> Aaron Hoyt
> Vantage Plastics
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Boyle [mailto:jboyle@s...]
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:51 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] By-products in 6.1
>
> Scott, we have used the salvage function but it will not reduce
the material
> cost correctly. If you are salvaging material #2 and have not
issued any to
> the job you must make the "cost" of the salvaged material $0. It
will
> correctly return it to inventory but the job gets $0 "credit".
You can not
> have a less than $0 cost, but you can have a less than 0 quantity.
> We do not issue any of the by-product material to the job but want
the
> material cost to be lowered by the value of the by-product. If
you are able
> to get the salvage function to correctly do this, we would like to
know your
> method.
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Boyle, Controller
> Sipco Molding Technologies
> Meadville, PA. 16335
> p 814.724.2243 x53
> f 814.724.2244
> vantage 6.10
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lepley, Scott A. [mailto:sal@m...]
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] By-products in 6.1
>
> This seems like an ideal situation for using the salvage materials
function.
> You can use this function if you can reuse modified materials from
a job.
> Salvage materials are entered as inventory receipt transactions,
and reduce
> the material cost against specific jobs. Have you looked at
this? If so,
> was there some limitation that posed a problem for you?
>
> Regards,
> Scott Lepley
> Systems Administrator
> Mauell Corporation
> Phone: 717-432-8686, ext. 14
> Fax: 717-432-8688
> Email: sal@m...
> Vantage version: 6.10.514
>
>
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