Changing a description in a form

Are you sure you even want to make a change like this? I advise against it for 2 reasons:

1. The term "Engineered" (re Jobs) appears in literally dozens of Maintenance Apps, reports, dashboards and trackers. Are you goin to follow through and also change the term "Engineered" to "Details Loaded" in all these other areas of Vantage as well. (Oh yeah - I forget the GAZILLION references in the Help files to "Engineered" as well.)

Not being consistent with terminology is a recipe for user confusion (and can be a training issue with new employees).

Yes: There are probably a dozen of so Vantage terms in use that many in our company wanted to be changed (during Piloting) to match the 'lingo' they had become comfortable with (from our legacy system) - but we didn't do it as it would have been a self inflicted long term maintenance & training nightmare.

Within 2 weeks of going live, everyone had adapted just fine and now use 'Vantage speak' as fluently as they used to use the old legacy system terms (which differed from the prior system's terms 12 years ago, etc., etc.,).

2. "Engineered" does NOT mean the Job has details. ALL it means is that the Job can be Scheduled. The Job Entry sngle order scheduler will not allow you to schedule the job if it is not Engineered nor will the Global Scheduler attempt to. Order Job Wizard also won't allow Schedule to be checked off unless the Engineered checkbox is first checked.

If a make-direct part on sales order has the Order Wizard run against it - and that part has no approved Rev/method, the wizard will still generate the header, ATTEMPT to bring in (non-existent) details and Schedule the no detail Job (if you tell it to via the checkboxes).

The base Job Entry app does not prohibit you at all from checking the Engineered box (whether details exist or not).

"Engineered" is deceptive as it is (as it should really be something like "Qualifed to Schedule"...

...Changing that to "Details Loaded" would be even more deceptive as it really has nothing to do with it.

Rob Brown


--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Thomas Rose <t.rose@...> wrote:

From: Thomas Rose <t.rose@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Changing a description in a form
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 11:06 AM






For our purposes, we would like the oval button in the Job Entry form that is labeled "Engineered" to instead say "Details Loaded". I tried a couple of approaches and neither worked. First, I went into customization and tried to put in the text "Details Loaded" for the control itself. Second, I went into translations and changed the translation for "Engineered" to "Details Loaded". Is there a way to do this I have not tried, or did I already do the right thing, but incorrectly?

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror, LLC

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For our purposes, we would like the oval button in the Job Entry form that is labeled "Engineered" to instead say "Details Loaded". I tried a couple of approaches and neither worked. First, I went into customization and tried to put in the text "Details Loaded" for the control itself. Second, I went into translations and changed the translation for "Engineered" to "Details Loaded". Is there a way to do this I have not tried, or did I already do the right thing, but incorrectly?

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror, LLC


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When you did the customization you would have noticed there was not any text associated with that button. That is because it is happening behind the scenes. The only way that you will be able to change it is during a form load event using the GUID of the control. I have never done this but I assume it would something like the following.

Private Sub XXXXForm_Load(ByVal sender As object, ByVal args As EventArgs) Handles XXXXForm.Load
Dim eugButton as EpiButton = Ctype(csm.GetNativeControlReference("7908565c-cc3c-43d1-b85b-9921ad88fb89"),EpiButton)
eugButton.Text = "Whatever"
End Sub

Get the GUID from the Properties of the button.
I am definitely unsure about the 3rd line above where the text is getting set. I derived that from the text properties of an EpiButton but I have never tried to use that property so I am not sure of its use.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Rose
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Changing a description in a form


For our purposes, we would like the oval button in the Job Entry form that is labeled "Engineered" to instead say "Details Loaded". I tried a couple of approaches and neither worked. First, I went into customization and tried to put in the text "Details Loaded" for the control itself. Second, I went into translations and changed the translation for "Engineered" to "Details Loaded". Is there a way to do this I have not tried, or did I already do the right thing, but incorrectly?

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror, LLC

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