Changing Port numbers

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>> I was unaware of BAM's but any BPM's are a problem
Maybe I worded this incorrectly...
I have BAMs that sent email alerts.
I don't want those alerts coming from pilot.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "CarlH" <carl.heeder@...> wrote:
>
> I was unaware of BAM's but any BPM's are a problem
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.
> >
> > Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.
> >
> > BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
> > You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
> > Look at the status and the connection ID.
> >
> > When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
> > NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
> > Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.
> >
> > Stop the appserver.
> > Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.
> >
> > Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
> > They might cross over to live on you.
> > I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> >
>
2
Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??

Thanks,

James
3
Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.

Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.

BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
Look at the status and the connection ID.

When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.

Stop the appserver.
Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.

Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
They might cross over to live on you.
I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
>
> Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
4
ok, stopped the services and it still shows system agent started but nothing in the connection and won't let me save changes. looked at live and it is connected. do I need to stop it since it does use ports 8301,2 and 3?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.
>
> Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.
>
> BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
> You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
> Look at the status and the connection ID.
>
> When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
> NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
> Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.
>
> Stop the appserver.
> Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.
>
> Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
> They might cross over to live on you.
> I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> >
> > Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James
> >
>
5
ok, went into progress explorer and unchecked autostart for all app servers for all databases, rebooting the server and will see if it still shows system agent started...

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
>
> ok, stopped the services and it still shows system agent started but nothing in the connection and won't let me save changes. looked at live and it is connected. do I need to stop it since it does use ports 8301,2 and 3?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.
> >
> > Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.
> >
> > BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
> > You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
> > Look at the status and the connection ID.
> >
> > When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
> > NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
> > Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.
> >
> > Stop the appserver.
> > Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.
> >
> > Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
> > They might cross over to live on you.
> > I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> >
>
6
still shows system agent started and won't let me change anything...

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
>
> ok, went into progress explorer and unchecked autostart for all app servers for all databases, rebooting the server and will see if it still shows system agent started...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> >
> > ok, stopped the services and it still shows system agent started but nothing in the connection and won't let me save changes. looked at live and it is connected. do I need to stop it since it does use ports 8301,2 and 3?
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.
> > >
> > > Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.
> > >
> > > BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
> > > You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
> > > Look at the status and the connection ID.
> > >
> > > When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
> > > NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
> > > Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.
> > >
> > > Stop the appserver.
> > > Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.
> > >
> > > Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
> > > They might cross over to live on you.
> > > I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
7
ok, went in and deleted system agent, stopped app servers for live and pilot. created new system agent for pilot. went into pilot system agent and set ports as it showed stopped. started rest of pilot agents. started live agents and checked to make sure they started correctly with the right ports. the only issue I have now is that there are no other schedules or tasks in pilot only in live. how do I get the ones in live over in pilot?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
>
> still shows system agent started and won't let me change anything...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> >
> > ok, went into progress explorer and unchecked autostart for all app servers for all databases, rebooting the server and will see if it still shows system agent started...
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ok, stopped the services and it still shows system agent started but nothing in the connection and won't let me save changes. looked at live and it is connected. do I need to stop it since it does use ports 8301,2 and 3?
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.
> > > >
> > > > Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.
> > > >
> > > > BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
> > > > You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
> > > > Look at the status and the connection ID.
> > > >
> > > > When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
> > > > NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
> > > > Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.
> > > >
> > > > Stop the appserver.
> > > > Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.
> > > >
> > > > Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
> > > > They might cross over to live on you.
> > > > I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
8
I was unaware of BAM's but any BPM's are a problem

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.
>
> Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.
>
> BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
> You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
> Look at the status and the connection ID.
>
> When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
> NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
> Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.
>
> Stop the appserver.
> Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.
>
> Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
> They might cross over to live on you.
> I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> >
> > Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James
> >
>
9
> ok, went in and deleted system agent
>no other schedules or tasks in pilot
> how do I get the ones in live over in pilot?
You'll probably have to rebuild schedules now.

I follow the steps you took & nothing wrong with them but...
It is possible to change the ports without deleting the system agent file. It's a little tricky - starting/stopping appservers.

Also, if you can get the ports changed without deleting the system agent file, the schedules are usually copied over, but not always all scheduled tasks.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
>
> ok, went in and deleted system agent, stopped app servers for live and pilot. created new system agent for pilot. went into pilot system agent and set ports as it showed stopped. started rest of pilot agents. started live agents and checked to make sure they started correctly with the right ports. the only issue I have now is that there are no other schedules or tasks in pilot only in live. how do I get the ones in live over in pilot?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> >
> > still shows system agent started and won't let me change anything...
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ok, went into progress explorer and unchecked autostart for all app servers for all databases, rebooting the server and will see if it still shows system agent started...
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok, stopped the services and it still shows system agent started but nothing in the connection and won't let me save changes. looked at live and it is connected. do I need to stop it since it does use ports 8301,2 and 3?
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, change every time you copy from live to pilot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Go to System Management, Utilities, System Agent Maintenance.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW... sometimes you'll get in a catch 22.
> > > > > You are in Pilot and want to change, but you're still connected to live. (It wont let you save your changes).
> > > > > Look at the status and the connection ID.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I copy live to pilot, I only start the database and the Appserver,
> > > > > NOT the TaskAgent of ProcessServer.
> > > > > Then I log into Vantage, change the port numbers and save.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stop the appserver.
> > > > > Start all three - the appserver, taskagent and process server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also beware of BAMs and ODBC.
> > > > > They might cross over to live on you.
> > > > > I usually disable all BAMs in pilot ( You can split the setup, I haven't done that yet).
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently production database app servers are 8301,8302,8303 and pilot database app servers are 8331,8332,8333. When I do a backup, I(probkup) the database, then stop pilot app servers and db, prorest the database file to pilot, then start the pilot db and app servers. If I look at the properties of the app servers they say 8331,8332,8333 and are set to autostart. If I login to pilot and look at the system agent it is set to autostart and the task app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8303 and the system app server is AppServerDC://localhost:8301. Shouldn't they be 8333 and 8331, if so how do I set them and do I need to set them everytime I restore to db??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>