Concurent Operations

One of the ways to handle this is to set you Wait Time to a negative number.
I have used the scenario with other packages. Have not tried it with
Vantage yet, but it is widely used elsewhere. You then can be each a
separate operation, without doubling the time.

Cameron A. Janish
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 08:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Concurent Operations



In our process we have two operations occuring at the same time using
the
following scenario,

A process operator will remove parts from his press and set them on
a
table.
A Line Trimmer person working 8 presses will come by and trim the
parts and put them in their container.

I can't quite figure out how to make this step schedule concurently with
the molding operation. When I schedule this sceniario the scheduling
board
will put one before the other and esentially double the time requirement
when in reality they start and end at the same time.

Any thoughts out there in Vantage land.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH



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Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on report builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report, like those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

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".r" files are the compiled Progress code which Vantage runs, you can not
view them. If you have purchased the source code from Epicor you get the
".w" format which is uncompiled Progress code and can be edited and compiled
with Progress Provision Software.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on report
builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report, like
those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My
customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what
application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
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I think with a .r file you have to use the Progress Appbuilder to edit it.
I don't think Report Builder will work. You'll find the Appbuilder in your
Progress 9.1C directory, along with a lot of other Progress programming
tools.

Jon Hellebuyck
Stremel Manufacturing

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on
report builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal
report, like those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it
before? My customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition,
what application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
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Mobile +6 012 488 5745
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I asked the question last week but didn't get a response. Does anyone on
this list have the source?
How long ago did you purchase it? Costs?
Thanks
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


".r" files are the compiled Progress code which Vantage runs, you can not
view them. If you have purchased the source code from Epicor you get the
".w" format which is uncompiled Progress code and can be edited and compiled
with Progress Provision Software.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on report
builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report, like
those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My
customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what
application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
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Fax: +6 03 7880 3055
Mobile +6 012 488 5745
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Sorry for my earlier post. Patrick's got it right. I was thinking .w files
when I suggested using Appbuilder.

Jon Hellebuyck
Stremel Manufacturing
-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


".r" files are the compiled Progress code which Vantage runs, you can not
view them. If you have purchased the source code from Epicor you get the
".w" format which is uncompiled Progress code and can be edited and
compiled
with Progress Provision Software.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on
report
builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report,
like
those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My
customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what
application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
e-Business Specialist
Simplicity Technologies Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6 03 7880 3550 Ext. 303
Fax: +6 03 7880 3055
Mobile +6 012 488 5745
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In our process we have two operations occuring at the same time using the
following scenario,

A process operator will remove parts from his press and set them on a
table.
A Line Trimmer person working 8 presses will come by and trim the
parts and put them in their container.

I can't quite figure out how to make this step schedule concurently with
the molding operation. When I schedule this sceniario the scheduling board
will put one before the other and esentially double the time requirement
when in reality they start and end at the same time.

Any thoughts out there in Vantage land.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
At 09:47 AM 3/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> I can't quite figure out how to make this step schedule concurently with
>the molding operation. When I schedule this sceniario the scheduling board
>will put one before the other and esentially double the time requirement

Have you tried experimenting with any of the operation scheduling options,
like Start-to-Start?

-Wayne Cox
No I haven't, but I certainly will.

Shirl
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Concurent Operations


At 09:47 AM 3/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> I can't quite figure out how to make this step schedule concurently
with
>the molding operation. When I schedule this sceniario the scheduling
board
>will put one before the other and esentially double the time requirement

Have you tried experimenting with any of the operation scheduling options,
like Start-to-Start?

-Wayne Cox




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I inquired about source about 6 months ago and was told Epicor will no
longer sell it. Period. And those who did purchase it when it was available
paid A LOT, something like 50% of the system cost if I recall correctly. So
I gave up on the pursuing that.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:20 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


I asked the question last week but didn't get a response. Does anyone on
this list have the source?
How long ago did you purchase it? Costs?
Thanks
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


".r" files are the compiled Progress code which Vantage runs, you can not
view them. If you have purchased the source code from Epicor you get the
".w" format which is uncompiled Progress code and can be edited and compiled
with Progress Provision Software.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on report
builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report, like
those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My
customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what
application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
e-Business Specialist
Simplicity Technologies Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6 03 7880 3550 Ext. 303
Fax: +6 03 7880 3055
Mobile +6 012 488 5745
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Shirley,

Why try to schedule them separately - why not make them one operation
capturing both labor costs?


have fun,
john


-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Concurent Operations
I thought about using the machine option, where the line finish person was
one machine and the press operator was another. But, the press operator
gets paid at a different rate than the line finisher. I'm still considering
the Machine option and just set the "Burden" for the "Line Finish" machine
at the appropriate rate for the line finisher. But, I'm not very
comfortable with that approach.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Concurent Operations


Shirley,

Why try to schedule them separately - why not make them one operation
capturing both labor costs?


have fun,
john


-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Concurent Operations


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
This sounds like a good example of Start to Start or Finish to Finish
scheduling, however if your users use Data Collection Terminal don't expect
to have your "Trimmer Person" see it under their "CURRENT WORK" tab. Even
though you told scheduling to handle it as "Start-to-Start" the tabs in Shop
Floor Data Collection work under a "Start-to-Finish" mentality only.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Concurent Operations



In our process we have two operations occuring at the same time using the
following scenario,

A process operator will remove parts from his press and set them on a
table.
A Line Trimmer person working 8 presses will come by and trim the
parts and put them in their container.

I can't quite figure out how to make this step schedule concurently with
the molding operation. When I schedule this sceniario the scheduling board
will put one before the other and esentially double the time requirement
when in reality they start and end at the same time.

Any thoughts out there in Vantage land.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Thanks for the response.
I spoke to several people at the Orlando Confernece and they got it free as
part of their negotiations. Just wondering if that was common.


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:47 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


I inquired about source about 6 months ago and was told Epicor will no
longer sell it. Period. And those who did purchase it when it was available
paid A LOT, something like 50% of the system cost if I recall correctly. So
I gave up on the pursuing that.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:20 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


I asked the question last week but didn't get a response. Does anyone on
this list have the source?
How long ago did you purchase it? Costs?
Thanks
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


".r" files are the compiled Progress code which Vantage runs, you can not
view them. If you have purchased the source code from Epicor you get the
".w" format which is uncompiled Progress code and can be edited and compiled
with Progress Provision Software.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on report
builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report, like
those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My
customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what
application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
e-Business Specialist
Simplicity Technologies Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6 03 7880 3550 Ext. 303
Fax: +6 03 7880 3055
Mobile +6 012 488 5745
Email: richard.chuah@...

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The quote I got for Provision 6 or 7 months ago was about $5000 plus a $500
maint fee, I think that was the price for 8.3A. That is an outdated quote,
but amounts to the cost of about 3 or 4 licenses.

Since visual studio enterprise cost ~$1000 at the time (though its just
about doubled since the .net thing) we decided to use that instead. It's
taken me a while, but I've finally been able to develop some custom crystal
reports based on 4GL queries (which can be cut and pasted from the export
utility), with a minimal amount of code. I use Crystal/Visual Basic/ASP for
my front end, and use 4GL queries to retrieve data from the database.

Just a note, Epicor uses crystal and 4GL for all their canned reports. The
text looking ones were written in 4GL, and the ones with the lines and
formatting were written in crystal. They do not use ODBC for data transfer.
Rather they use temporary DBF files. I started with DBF, then Access MDB,
but now I use a combination of CSV files and ADO to transfer data from the
DB to a crystal report. I'll be posting some examples in the near future.

Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:47 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


I inquired about source about 6 months ago and was told Epicor will no
longer sell it. Period. And those who did purchase it when it was available
paid A LOT, something like 50% of the system cost if I recall correctly. So
I gave up on the pursuing that.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:20 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


I asked the question last week but didn't get a response. Does anyone on
this list have the source?
How long ago did you purchase it? Costs?
Thanks
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


".r" files are the compiled Progress code which Vantage runs, you can not
view them. If you have purchased the source code from Epicor you get the
".w" format which is uncompiled Progress code and can be edited and compiled
with Progress Provision Software.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on report
builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report, like
those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My
customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what
application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
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Fax: +6 03 7880 3055
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You make it sound like open source saying companies got it free. I purchased
a car with zero percent financing, it is still the most expensive vehicle I
have ever owned.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:25 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Thanks for the response.
I spoke to several people at the Orlando Confernece and they got it free as
part of their negotiations. Just wondering if that was common.


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:47 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


I inquired about source about 6 months ago and was told Epicor will no
longer sell it. Period. And those who did purchase it when it was available
paid A LOT, something like 50% of the system cost if I recall correctly. So
I gave up on the pursuing that.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:20 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


I asked the question last week but didn't get a response. Does anyone on
this list have the source?
How long ago did you purchase it? Costs?
Thanks
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


".r" files are the compiled Progress code which Vantage runs, you can not
view them. If you have purchased the source code from Epicor you get the
".w" format which is uncompiled Progress code and can be edited and compiled
with Progress Provision Software.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chuah [mailto:richard.chuah@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] customization on vantage report on report builder


Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea to customization on the existing report on report
builder. I believe those file are *.r format. It isn't crystal report, like
those G/L report, or others existing report. Or anyone did it before? My
customer is using Vantage ver 5.10 with 116 patch. In addition, what
application should I use to view or modify *.r format files in vantage?

Best Regard,
Richard Chuah
e-Business Specialist
Simplicity Technologies Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6 03 7880 3550 Ext. 303
Fax: +6 03 7880 3055
Mobile +6 012 488 5745
Email: richard.chuah@...

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I'm going to treat data collection as a separate problem, I think when we
get to that we'll be using the Ceasar development module instead of the
canned package, (unless of course there are substantial improvements, hint
hint) I hear there are improvements in the pipe. Right now the battle is
going to be with manufacturing and convincing them that computers will NOT
steal their souls, and Vantage isn't a tool of the devil. (Maybe I should
put a giant pencil eraser on top of their monitors as a security blanket)

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:22 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Concurent Operations


This sounds like a good example of Start to Start or Finish to Finish
scheduling, however if your users use Data Collection Terminal don't
expect
to have your "Trimmer Person" see it under their "CURRENT WORK" tab. Even
though you told scheduling to handle it as "Start-to-Start" the tabs in
Shop
Floor Data Collection work under a "Start-to-Finish" mentality only.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Concurent Operations



In our process we have two operations occuring at the same time using
the
following scenario,

A process operator will remove parts from his press and set them on
a
table.
A Line Trimmer person working 8 presses will come by and trim the
parts and put them in their container.

I can't quite figure out how to make this step schedule concurently with
the molding operation. When I schedule this sceniario the scheduling
board
will put one before the other and esentially double the time requirement
when in reality they start and end at the same time.

Any thoughts out there in Vantage land.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH



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Shirley,

> and Vantage isn't a tool of the devil

If you are on 5.1 it is a tool of the devil.

<g>

have fun,
john



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Concurent Operations
HI Richard

YOu can make similar report in Report builder.
Can you please mention which report you wnat to customize. Might be
someone already has it on file.