{Disarmed} IT backup person

I too am in the same position as the rest. I am the IT Manager and
handle everything that has a plug. From electric pencil sharpeners
to desktops/servers/firewalls/etc for 2 offices seperated by 1600
miles. I cant remember the last time I actually worked 8:00 - 5:00
or had a vacation without at least one phone call, but that is life.

I also have been on the consulting side of IT as well. The issue is
that even if they repsonded on time, they still may have had to call
you to figure out what is going on and how to get everything back on-
line. If you are going to use an outside consulting firm, then they
need to come in AT LEAST once a month and get to know your system.
Each one of us runs things differently and there are subtle nuances
to each network. You may have known that the servers needed to be
turned on in a specific order or that the button needs to be held for
5 seconds before it powers up. Sure you know that becuase you have
been doing it for years; however, just because a "consultant" comes
in doesnt mean that they will know that. It is experience that
allows us to do our jobs easily in the eyes of our management. Also
you need to remember that consulting firms are in business to make
money too just like the companies that we work for. So they have
many clients to make up a full week of work for the consultants that
work for them. So they may not be able to get to you within 30
minutes.

With all that said, I would agree with Jonathon. You must TRAIN
someone within the office. I have found 2 people, one at each
office, that is willing to do IT tasks when it is needed. They are
not real strong with IT, but the can follow directions very well.
These people have other positions within our company and I only use
them in an emergency.

Just another point of view.

Jeff






--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "dhieber" <dhieber@...> wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
>
>
> We tend to have the same problem here not just with IT but with my
position
> in general. We did hire an IT company to handle our computer
system,
> they come in once a month check the network and do "maintenance" to
it. BUT
> this summer we put it to the test and myself and the VP of
Engineering took
> the same week off. I went to Disney and he went away some where as
well.
> Off course we had a bad storm in our area, the power went off and
the
> network would not boot up when power was back on. Our office
contacted the
> IT company, they held for 25 minutes and had to leave a message.
It was
> another 25 minutes before they even called them back. They were
on the
> phone with me while I standing in line for a ride, and we had it up
and
> running even before they called us back! Needless to say I was
not a
> happy camper!
>
>
>
> I can not tell you the last time I had a vacation day that I was
not called
> from work on how to do something (not just Networking/Computer).
I chalk
> it up to job security.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dina Hieber
>
> Vamco International, Inc.
>
> 555 Epsilon Drive, Pittsburgh, PA 15238
>
> Tel: (412) 963-7100
>
> Fax: (412) 963-9511
>
>
>
> email: dhieber@...
>
>
>
> Website; www.vamcointernational.com
>
>
>
> **********
>
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> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Michael McWilliams
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:59 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person
>
>
>
> Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
> the only person here with the knowledge of all the different
systems.
> I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I
still
> get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access
and
> how others have a backup set up just in case.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
how others have a backup set up just in case.
We are in the same situation here, at least where Vantage is concerned. I am setup with remote access so I just take a laptop with me and try to make sure that where ever I am that I have internet access. That is not an ideal situation but at least I don't have to make a trip in to the office.

We have researched the idea of using a employment agency to help find some one that might could fill in. We found the cost to be prohibitive, i.e. they want $150 to $200/hr to bring someone in for training. I don't know what world they live in but I would most definitely like to be making that kind of money; even part time I could earn a pretty decent living.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
Georgetown, Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael McWilliams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: [Vantage] IT backup person


Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
how others have a backup set up just in case.





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Me too...one IT person with many hats. I am now recently blessed with a young fellow who has very strong computer skills and it working in our Engineering dept. as part time CAD design and when not busy I get him for IT project. This has allowed him to get most of the basics about the network and hardware. Often finding an internal person to "groom" is the best/only alternative. Prior to him our Operations Director was my official backup and is still the go to person for Vantage admin. issues when I'm gone. he is also one of 4 people in the company who know the master Admin password. The part time IT Assistant has his own Administrator rights log in for each PC but not the network level. To back all this up I have a folder with cheat sheets for every common circumstance and I continually update it with "how to" topics as I run into issues. Everyone who needs to knows the FUBAR Folder is in the computer room next to the concole when I am gone.
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] IT backup person


Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
how others have a backup set up just in case.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Michael,



We tend to have the same problem here not just with IT but with my position
in general. We did hire an IT company to handle our computer system,
they come in once a month check the network and do "maintenance" to it. BUT
this summer we put it to the test and myself and the VP of Engineering took
the same week off. I went to Disney and he went away some where as well.
Off course we had a bad storm in our area, the power went off and the
network would not boot up when power was back on. Our office contacted the
IT company, they held for 25 minutes and had to leave a message. It was
another 25 minutes before they even called them back. They were on the
phone with me while I standing in line for a ride, and we had it up and
running even before they called us back! Needless to say I was not a
happy camper!



I can not tell you the last time I had a vacation day that I was not called
from work on how to do something (not just Networking/Computer). I chalk
it up to job security.



Thank you,







Dina Hieber

Vamco International, Inc.

555 Epsilon Drive, Pittsburgh, PA 15238

Tel: (412) 963-7100

Fax: (412) 963-9511



email: dhieber@...



Website; www.vamcointernational.com



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael McWilliams
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person



Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
how others have a backup set up just in case.





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I am in the same exact position as you.



Adam Gwizdz
Manager, Corporate IT Systems
1 Capital Drive, Suite 101
Cranbury, NJ 08512

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] IT backup person



Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
how others have a backup set up just in case.





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The word is used most like location: Training, Training, Training.
Â
Every business has a manager or trusted employee that is savy wth technology. They don't have to be great, just able to understand the processes.
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I have trained two people to take over for me when I get sick, or looking for a new job (Just Kidding).
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Talk to your boss and find out who is "Trainable".
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IÂ held a meeting with all the managers to find out who was interested, capable, and smart. Long search but I found two.
Â
Jonathan LangÂ
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699
jlang@...


--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Gwizdz, Adam <Adam.Gwizdz@...> wrote:

From: Gwizdz, Adam <Adam.Gwizdz@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] IT backup person
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 7:18 AM






I am in the same exact position as you.

Adam Gwizdz
Manager, Corporate IT Systems
1 Capital Drive, Suite 101
Cranbury, NJ 08512

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From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] IT backup person

Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
how others have a backup set up just in case.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Dina,
Â
That is a story you hear all the time whebn it comes to outsourcing. You buy a block of time and hope that a person is either in you area or at least not busy with other customers. IT firms have way to many customers then they can possibly handle. Although to test the problem by leaving your company without contact info is not cool either. If that was my company you and I would be in conflict because of the money I lost.
Â
As I mentioned before, Train your people. If you cannot be reached then some one at your company may be able to fix, band-aid the problem untill you can help the situation. Training is the key and you may be surprised at how many people are eager to learn.
Â
Jonathan LangÂ
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699
jlang@...


--- On Wed, 12/17/08, dhieber <dhieber@...> wrote:

From: dhieber <dhieber@...>
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:45 AM






Michael,

We tend to have the same problem here not just with IT but with my position
in general. We did hire an IT company to handle our computer system,
they come in once a month check the network and do "maintenance" to it. BUT
this summer we put it to the test and myself and the VP of Engineering took
the same week off. I went to Disney and he went away some where as well.
Off course we had a bad storm in our area, the power went off and the
network would not boot up when power was back on. Our office contacted the
IT company, they held for 25 minutes and had to leave a message. It was
another 25 minutes before they even called them back. They were on the
phone with me while I standing in line for a ride, and we had it up and
running even before they called us back! Needless to say I was not a
happy camper!

I can not tell you the last time I had a vacation day that I was not called
from work on how to do something (not just Networking/Computer ). I chalk
it up to job security.

Thank you,

Dina Hieber

Vamco International, Inc.

555 Epsilon Drive, Pittsburgh, PA 15238

Tel: (412) 963-7100

Fax: (412) 963-9511

email: dhieber@vamcointern ational.com

Website; www.vamcointernatio nal.com

**********

This e-mail message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
are intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) . Any unauthorized
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those of the individual and not necessarily the company. If you are not the
intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all
copies of the original message.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
Michael McWilliams
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person

Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
how others have a backup set up just in case.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Same situation here but we've found a workaround. We hired a "casual
time" employee, a young college student who is going into the IT
field. They are usually willing to work part time and don't demand a
premium wage. Bring one in on a temporary/part-time basis and start
training. They may not be able to handle the complexity of Vantage
for a while but it will definitely lessen the endless calls and remote
logins to administer the network and day-to-day computer issues.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
>
> Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
> the only person here with the knowledge of all the different
systems.
> I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I
still
> get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access
and
> how others have a backup set up just in case.
>
The issue here is from an audit standpoint. We have an outside
firm come in and do all kinds of yearly audits. One is an IT risk
assessment. They then report findings to the board. They are not
happy with the fact that even though I manage all IT that I have
access to all Vantage modules by knowing the manager password &
complete access to the file system when logged in as manager. So
when I mentioned to the President and other managers about training
someone, ther concern was from an audit stanpoint. Even from giving
an executive manager access . We are not a public company, but they
want to hold us to the standards when it come to the IT systems. How
is someone supposed to fix the systems, or test & customize if they
don't have access, myself included. Are these auditors just being
overzealous. I have never dealt with this before.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Lang <lsbestinc@...> wrote:
>
> Dina,
> Â
> That is a story you hear all the time whebn it comes to
outsourcing. You buy a block of time and hope that a person is
either in you area or at least not busy with other customers. IT
firms have way to many customers then they can possibly handle.
Although to test the problem by leaving your company without contact
info is not cool either. If that was my company you and I would be
in conflict because of the money I lost.
> Â
> As I mentioned before, Train your people. If you cannot be reached
then some one at your company may be able to fix, band-aid the
problem untill you can help the situation. Training is the key and
you may be surprised at how many people are eager to learn.
> Â
> Jonathan LangÂ
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
> jlang@...
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, dhieber <dhieber@...> wrote:
>
> From: dhieber <dhieber@...>
> Subject: RE: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:45 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael,
>
> We tend to have the same problem here not just with IT but with my
position
> in general. We did hire an IT company to handle our computer
system,
> they come in once a month check the network and do "maintenance"
to it. BUT
> this summer we put it to the test and myself and the VP of
Engineering took
> the same week off. I went to Disney and he went away some where as
well.
> Off course we had a bad storm in our area, the power went off and
the
> network would not boot up when power was back on. Our office
contacted the
> IT company, they held for 25 minutes and had to leave a message.
It was
> another 25 minutes before they even called them back. They were on
the
> phone with me while I standing in line for a ride, and we had it
up and
> running even before they called us back! Needless to say I was not
a
> happy camper!
>
> I can not tell you the last time I had a vacation day that I was
not called
> from work on how to do something (not just Networking/Computer ).
I chalk
> it up to job security.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dina Hieber
>
> Vamco International, Inc.
>
> 555 Epsilon Drive, Pittsburgh, PA 15238
>
> Tel: (412) 963-7100
>
> Fax: (412) 963-9511
>
> email: dhieber@vamcointern ational.com
>
> Website; www.vamcointernatio nal.com
>
> **********
>
> This e-mail message and any files transmitted with it are
confidential and
> are intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) . Any
unauthorized
> use or disclosure is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in the
email are
> those of the individual and not necessarily the company. If you
are not the
> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and
destroy all
> copies of the original message.
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com]
On Behalf Of
> Michael McWilliams
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:59 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person
>
> Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
> the only person here with the knowledge of all the different
systems.
> I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I
still
> get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access
and
> how others have a backup set up just in case.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
The Auditors are looking out for the businesses best interest, and we have the same situation as you do. Our Auditors are from the bank and if you know anything about banks you can guess the red tape we have to venture through.
Â
If the CEO of the company is not willing to let you train some one, and is concerned about the people , who obviously does not trust, then your in the clear. The CEO has to take responsibility when trouble happens due to his/her decisions. The nice thing to keep in mind is that sooner or later they all come to OUR way of thinking. Sometimes the company gets a knock on the head, but they almost always come around.
Â
Remember to stick to your guns and remind them that if someday you either win the lottery or get hit by a bus someone has to take over Vantage. You can't keep the keys to the Kingdom in one man's pocket.
Â
Jonathan LangÂ
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

jlang@...
Â


--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:

From: Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...>
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:40 AM






The issue here is from an audit standpoint. We have an outside
firm come in and do all kinds of yearly audits. One is an IT risk
assessment. They then report findings to the board. They are not
happy with the fact that even though I manage all IT that I have
access to all Vantage modules by knowing the manager password &
complete access to the file system when logged in as manager. So
when I mentioned to the President and other managers about training
someone, ther concern was from an audit stanpoint. Even from giving
an executive manager access . We are not a public company, but they
want to hold us to the standards when it come to the IT systems. How
is someone supposed to fix the systems, or test & customize if they
don't have access, myself included. Are these auditors just being
overzealous. I have never dealt with this before.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Jonathan Lang <lsbestinc@. ..> wrote:
>
> Dina,
> Â
> That is a story you hear all the time whebn it comes to
outsourcing. You buy a block of time and hope that a person is
either in you area or at least not busy with other customers. IT
firms have way to many customers then they can possibly handle.
Although to test the problem by leaving your company without contact
info is not cool either. If that was my company you and I would be
in conflict because of the money I lost.
> Â
> As I mentioned before, Train your people. If you cannot be reached
then some one at your company may be able to fix, band-aid the
problem untill you can help the situation. Training is the key and
you may be surprised at how many people are eager to learn.
> Â
> Jonathan LangÂ
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
> jlang@...
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, dhieber <dhieber@... > wrote:
>
> From: dhieber <dhieber@... >
> Subject: RE: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:45 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael,
>
> We tend to have the same problem here not just with IT but with my
position
> in general. We did hire an IT company to handle our computer
system,
> they come in once a month check the network and do "maintenance"
to it. BUT
> this summer we put it to the test and myself and the VP of
Engineering took
> the same week off. I went to Disney and he went away some where as
well.
> Off course we had a bad storm in our area, the power went off and
the
> network would not boot up when power was back on. Our office
contacted the
> IT company, they held for 25 minutes and had to leave a message.
It was
> another 25 minutes before they even called them back. They were on
the
> phone with me while I standing in line for a ride, and we had it
up and
> running even before they called us back! Needless to say I was not
a
> happy camper!
>
> I can not tell you the last time I had a vacation day that I was
not called
> from work on how to do something (not just Networking/Computer ).
I chalk
> it up to job security.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dina Hieber
>
> Vamco International, Inc.
>
> 555 Epsilon Drive, Pittsburgh, PA 15238
>
> Tel: (412) 963-7100
>
> Fax: (412) 963-9511
>
> email: dhieber@vamcointern ational.com
>
> Website; www.vamcointernatio nal.com
>
> **********
>
> This e-mail message and any files transmitted with it are
confidential and
> are intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) . Any
unauthorized
> use or disclosure is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in the
email are
> those of the individual and not necessarily the company. If you
are not the
> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and
destroy all
> copies of the original message.
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@ yahoogroups .com]
On Behalf Of
> Michael McWilliams
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:59 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: {Disarmed} [Vantage] IT backup person
>
> Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
> the only person here with the knowledge of all the different
systems.
> I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I
still
> get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access
and
> how others have a backup set up just in case.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
>
> Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
> the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
> I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
> get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
> how others have a backup set up just in case.
>

One of the other options would be to setup an agreement for T&M
services with an Epicor channel partner with good infrastructure
background. Those services can be found and are affordable because the
need for "training" is reduced.
Given the evident goodwill on this group, I wonder if there are folks
out there willing to provide "backup" on a individual contractor basis.
Obviously some problems with availability, and would only be remote, but
in some situations it might work.



--

Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /
Picometrix

bspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~
www.advancedphotonix.com



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kenneth Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: IT backup person



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
>
> Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
> the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
> I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
> get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
> how others have a backup set up just in case.
>

One of the other options would be to setup an agreement for T&M
services with an Epicor channel partner with good infrastructure
background. Those services can be found and are affordable because the
need for "training" is reduced.

.


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I think that would only work if the Company could meet the man behind the mask so to speak. Company information is Very valuable. I think you would have to d a meet and greet at the very least and disclose your own company information in the process.
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I myself think that this group remain under cover. Think about how many problems we help solve. Now think about how many times you told the boss "We" solved it for you... Or maybe you left out that little tid bid, huh? LOL!!
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Jonathan LangÂ
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699
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From: Brian W. Spolarich <bspolarich@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: IT backup person
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 11:51 AM






Given the evident goodwill on this group, I wonder if there are folks
out there willing to provide "backup" on a individual contractor basis.
Obviously some problems with availability, and would only be remote, but
in some situations it might work.

--

Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /
Picometrix

bspolarich@advanced photonix. com ~ 734-864-5618 ~
www.advancedphotoni x.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of Kenneth Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: IT backup person

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com> ,
"Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@ ...> wrote:
>
> Not sure how others are handling a backup for there position. I am
> the only person here with the knowledge of all the different systems.
> I am a one man IT department. If I am on vacation or out sick I still
> get calls or need to run in. Just wondering what level of access and
> how others have a backup set up just in case.
>

One of the other options would be to setup an agreement for T&M
services with an Epicor channel partner with good infrastructure
background. Those services can be found and are affordable because the
need for "training" is reduced.

..

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