DIY - Progress to SQL

I have done it for 3 different customers, on 5 different databases.

All the tools are there already, but it was a pretty involved process that
took a good amount of time to go through the process of converting, fixing
errors and other things that were issues, also figuring out how to get it
done over the course of a weekend for them for minimal downtime.

One of the biggest issues I had was the lack of Epicor properly checking
data size compared to field size, for example, a field that is supposed to
be limited to 30 characters wasn't being limited to 30 characters in
Progress, but when it was being transferred to SQL, SQL was enforcing the 30
character limit, so there needed to be data corrections in the original DB
ahead of time.

Also, being SQL on the backend isn't going to fix your replication problems,
you can't actually fully replicate the Epicor DB because there are so many
tables without a primary key, why they would ever make a table without a
primary key is beyond me though, that was one of the first things I learned
in HS was defining the primary key on a DB Table, while you could define
them on your own, I would caution against that since you would be changing
the schema setup by Epicor, which could technically render your DB
unsupported by them.




-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Scotty K.
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] DIY - Progress to SQL

For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
me....


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:

> If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non
> issue soon...
>
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL?
> > How difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the
database?
> > We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
Hello Everyone,

Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the database?
We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.

Thanks,
Scott
If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non issue
soon...


*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
*T: 904.469.1524 mobile
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<http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
<http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
<http://www.usdoingstuff.com>

*Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
> difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the database?
> We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
me....


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:

> If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non issue
> soon...
>
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@...
> http://www.josecgomez.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <
> http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <
> http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
> > difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the database?
> > We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Patience is a virtue my friend... trust me...


*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
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<http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
<http://www.usdoingstuff.com>

*Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Scotty K. <scottyk537@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
> me....
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>
> > If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non issue
> > soon...
> >
> >
> > *Jose C Gomez*
> > *Software Engineer*
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> > E: jose@...
> > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <
> > http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> > <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <
> > http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> > <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> > <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> > <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
> >
> > *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
> > > difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the
> database?
> > > We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> > have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
With your relatively small DB size, it shouldn't take too long or be too
painful for the conversion. It's the other components that are a potential
PITA. the reconfig of the back end and such.



Contrary to Jose's input, I'd respectfully disagree with him on waiting.
I'm thinking he's insinuating E10's arrival with only MSSQL as a db choice.
*IF* Epicor truly gets E10 rolled out by 2014, I still wouldn't touch it
with a 10-foot pole until 12 months later. So, realistically, you'd be
waiting 18 months.



Does Epicor even have a "DIY Kit" for this?



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Scotty K.
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] DIY - Progress to SQL





For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
me....

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@...
<mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com> > wrote:

> If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non issue
> soon...
>
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@... <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <
> http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <
> http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@...
<mailto:scottyk537%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
> > difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the
database?
> > We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I just got off the phone with support. They were finally able to fix my replication errors. The support guy said that he couldn't confirm or deny any back end database platform of any future versions, "wink". However if the back end is SQL, they would provide a conversion tool for progress users. He made it sound like the "X" is basically 702 with a new backend and tools. He also said it is the most heavily tested version ever. Makes sense that they would make an exact version upgrade when making so many changes to the backend, so you have something to compare against.

On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:30 PM, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:

> With your relatively small DB size, it shouldn't take too long or be too
> painful for the conversion. It's the other components that are a potential
> PITA. the reconfig of the back end and such.
>
> Contrary to Jose's input, I'd respectfully disagree with him on waiting.
> I'm thinking he's insinuating E10's arrival with only MSSQL as a db choice.
> *IF* Epicor truly gets E10 rolled out by 2014, I still wouldn't touch it
> with a 10-foot pole until 12 months later. So, realistically, you'd be
> waiting 18 months.
>
> Does Epicor even have a "DIY Kit" for this?
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Scotty K.
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:03 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DIY - Progress to SQL
>
> For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
> me....
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@...
> <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com> > wrote:
>
> > If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non issue
> > soon...
> >
> >
> > *Jose C Gomez*
> > *Software Engineer*
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> > E: jose@... <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com>
> > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <
> > http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> > <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <
> > http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> > <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> > <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> > <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
> >
> > *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@...
> <mailto:scottyk537%40gmail.com> > wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
> > > difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the
> database?
> > > We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> > have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tell that to the CFO when he can't run all his financial reports at the end of the quarter on a short week. Lol

On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:

> Patience is a virtue my friend... trust me...
>
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@...
> http://www.josecgomez.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Scotty K. <scottyk537@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
>> me....
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non issue
>>> soon...
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jose C Gomez*
>>> *Software Engineer*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
>>> E: jose@...
>>> http://www.josecgomez.com
>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <
>>> http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
>>> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <
>>> http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
>>> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
>>> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
>>> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>>>
>>> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
>>>> difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the
>> database?
>>>> We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>>
>>> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
>>> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
>>> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
>>> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
>>> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
>>> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Well, if Tech Support said it’s the most heavily tested version ever, I’m sure nothing could go wrong.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scotty K
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:47 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] DIY - Progress to SQL





I just got off the phone with support. They were finally able to fix my replication errors. The support guy said that he couldn't confirm or deny any back end database platform of any future versions, "wink". However if the back end is SQL, they would provide a conversion tool for progress users. He made it sound like the "X" is basically 702 with a new backend and tools. He also said it is the most heavily tested version ever. Makes sense that they would make an exact version upgrade when making so many changes to the backend, so you have something to compare against.

On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:30 PM, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@... <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com> > wrote:

> With your relatively small DB size, it shouldn't take too long or be too
> painful for the conversion. It's the other components that are a potential
> PITA. the reconfig of the back end and such.
>
> Contrary to Jose's input, I'd respectfully disagree with him on waiting.
> I'm thinking he's insinuating E10's arrival with only MSSQL as a db choice.
> *IF* Epicor truly gets E10 rolled out by 2014, I still wouldn't touch it
> with a 10-foot pole until 12 months later. So, realistically, you'd be
> waiting 18 months.
>
> Does Epicor even have a "DIY Kit" for this?
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> Scotty K.
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:03 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DIY - Progress to SQL
>
> For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
> me....
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jose Gomez <jose@... <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com>
> <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com> > wrote:
>
> > If you are on 9.05.XXX I'd say wait a few months... it may be a non issue
> > soon...
> >
> >
> > *Jose C Gomez*
> > *Software Engineer*
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> > E: jose@... <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com> <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com>
> > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <
> > http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> > <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <
> > http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> > <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> > <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> > <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
> >
> > *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, scottyk537 <scottyk537@... <mailto:scottyk537%40gmail.com>
> <mailto:scottyk537%40gmail.com> > wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
> > > difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the
> database?
> > > We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> > have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
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I always wondered... How do they test? Since they don't login to the system... Maybe that's what they are talking about when they say most tested(logging in to see if it actually opens)...

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Well, if Tech Support said it�s the most heavily tested version ever, I�m sure nothing could go wrong.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Scotty K
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Subject: Re: [Vantage] DIY - Progress to SQL

I just got off the phone with support. They were finally able to fix my replication errors. The support guy said that he couldn't confirm or deny any back end database platform of any future versions, "wink". However if the back end is SQL, they would provide a conversion tool for progress users. He made it sound like the "X" is basically 702 with a new backend and tools. He also said it is the most heavily tested version ever. Makes sense that they would make an exact version upgrade when making so many changes to the backend, so you have something to compare against.

On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:30 PM, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...<mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com> <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com<http://40swepcotube.com>> > wrote:

> With your relatively small DB size, it shouldn't take too long or be too
> painful for the conversion. It's the other components that are a potential
> PITA. the reconfig of the back end and such.
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> Contrary to Jose's input, I'd respectfully disagree with him on waiting.
> I'm thinking he's insinuating E10's arrival with only MSSQL as a db choice.
> *IF* Epicor truly gets E10 rolled out by 2014, I still wouldn't touch it
> with a 10-foot pole until 12 months later. So, realistically, you'd be
> waiting 18 months.
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> Does Epicor even have a "DIY Kit" for this?
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> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DIY - Progress to SQL
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> For sanity's sake, I cannot wait that long. Replication server is killing
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> > > Hello Everyone,
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> > > Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How
> > > difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the
> database?
> > > We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
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> > > Thanks,
> > > Scott
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Hi Scott,

Well, on the 24th June I upgrade our Vantage 8 Progress install to Epicor 9.05.700C on MS SQL and with what I had to do with this I'd personally say that this should be relatively straightforward for you.

I'm presuming that you'll be going from Progress to MS SQL and still stay using 700B ?, if this is the case and you're not moving to a newer version at the same time then basically its a traditional dump and load. Dump from Progress and Load into MS SQL, all done over a weekend.

Doing a D&L on the data is a breeze, however, it's the little quirks of moving to SQL that could get you. Things such as...

# If you use ODBC for reporting (Crystal + MS Office etc) then you'll have to change your queries a little.

# If you use ODBC queries heavily then watch out for MS SQL table locking / blocks. Unlike the Progress ODBC driver you can set an MS SQL one to be 'read uncommitted', the isolation level is set by the client and not the driver !.

# Watch out for code pages used in your .pf files. The Epicor documentation on these is wrong, and we're still can't use the Euro currency symbol :(

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "scottyk537" <scottyk537@...> wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
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> Has anyone successfully converted their Progress database to SQL? How difficult was the process? What tool did you use to convert the database?
> We are on version 700B x64 and our progress database is about 4GB.
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> Thanks,
> Scott
>