E9 UOM Class Blank Title 82102

We did not set up any additional UOM Classes for similar issues. Within the existing UOM Class of Length, you can set up UOM's like: BAR20, BAR21, BAR12, BAR24 and BAR40, each of which will be available for all parts, and are defined as the listed number of feet. You could then Inventory the parts in BAR20 (for example) but could purchase in FT. We go one step further, and purchase in LBS with Part Specific Conversions. Feel free to contact me for more details.

Rick


Richard Sirow, President
Independent Components Corp.
516-481-5100 x106 FAX=516-481-5550

On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Andrew Best wrote:

> We are converting from 8.03 to Epicor 9. I am working on UOM and Class
> ID's. We are unique in that we try to stock all bars in EACH but
> purchase them in Feet. The problem is that we buy tubing in 20'
> lengths, pipe in 21 ft lengths, and bar stock in 12', 20', 24', and 40,
> lengths. Am I going to have to create a different class ID for each of
> these or is there a better way? Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Best
>
> Kice Industries, Inc.
>
> P(316)744-7151
>
> F(316)295-2412
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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I am curious how others are maintaining their bar stock. Do you have a predetermined length that you no longer count as viable inventory? As an example, we are ending up with a quantity of 200 little 4 inch pieces, so the system shows 800 inches in stock, but none of those parts are usable for our needs. This seems to be a maintenance bad dream (not as bad as a nightmare).
The easy way out seems to be to just increase the quantity required on the BOM's, but you just know that will come back on us somehow....

Stephen Schaefer
Abrams Airborne
There are two different thoughts which both work but can be difficult to
manage.



First is dimensional inventory. This is made easier in E9 with the UOM
system. In V8.03.4xx you can have the one part number with different
lengths in the system. Each dimension has a conversion factor against
the base unit of measure. If you use the bar stock by the inch, you
could have stock in multiple dimensions of 144" (12' Bar), 72" (6' Bar)
and 4" (4" bar) or as many other dimensions as necessary. The on hand
shows the various dimensions and if lot tracking, the lot they are from.
To use dimensional inventory, you must have the Advanced Inventory
license (which also enables serial numbers).



Second is to keep individual part numbers in each different length. This
would show you the specific OD and Length in the part. The biggest
problem is that you have to maintain the stock but also allows you to
specify the specific part in your Method of manufacturing. It can get a
bit harrowing. In many cases you have to create a job to cut the bar(s)
into the appropriate length then you can use a job to job transfer or
manufacturing receipt and then material issue to get the cut materials
into the job it is needed for.



I have customers doing it both ways but I prefer dimensional inventory
because it keeps the part numbers down.



Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com







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Of sschaefer323
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Bar Stock Inventory...





I am curious how others are maintaining their bar stock. Do you have a
predetermined length that you no longer count as viable inventory? As an
example, we are ending up with a quantity of 200 little 4 inch pieces,
so the system shows 800 inches in stock, but none of those parts are
usable for our needs. This seems to be a maintenance bad dream (not as
bad as a nightmare).
The easy way out seems to be to just increase the quantity required on
the BOM's, but you just know that will come back on us somehow....

Stephen Schaefer
Abrams Airborne





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We have the same problem with raw wire and cables. We use scrap factors to help adjust the extras out of inventory as the wire is used. That way if we use 32 inches of a wire on an assembly and give it a 2% scrap factor, 32.64 inches will be backflushed, but our BOM will still show how much is actually needed to build the assembly. Occasionally, cycle counting will show enough of a variance for us to adjust the scrap factor but inventory is much more accurate then it used to be.

Unfortunately, there is no way to default the scrap factor by part so we currently have the most common scrap factors entered in the part's Material Analysis, which is visible in the Engineering Workbench when the part is added to a BOM.

Eventually, I may get around to adding the default scrap to a UD field in the part table and creating a BPM to default the value on the BOM, but this method is working really well for us right now.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "sschaefer323" <sschaefer323@...> wrote:
>
> I am curious how others are maintaining their bar stock. Do you have a predetermined length that you no longer count as viable inventory? As an example, we are ending up with a quantity of 200 little 4 inch pieces, so the system shows 800 inches in stock, but none of those parts are usable for our needs. This seems to be a maintenance bad dream (not as bad as a nightmare).
> The easy way out seems to be to just increase the quantity required on the BOM's, but you just know that will come back on us somehow....
>
> Stephen Schaefer
> Abrams Airborne
>
I almost forgot to mention...the other benefit (to us anyway) is that the cost of the scrap is calculated into the top-level assemblies instead of disappearing into a scrap account.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "kirstin.brandt" <kirstin.brandt@...> wrote:
>
> We have the same problem with raw wire and cables. We use scrap factors to help adjust the extras out of inventory as the wire is used. That way if we use 32 inches of a wire on an assembly and give it a 2% scrap factor, 32.64 inches will be backflushed, but our BOM will still show how much is actually needed to build the assembly. Occasionally, cycle counting will show enough of a variance for us to adjust the scrap factor but inventory is much more accurate then it used to be.
>
> Unfortunately, there is no way to default the scrap factor by part so we currently have the most common scrap factors entered in the part's Material Analysis, which is visible in the Engineering Workbench when the part is added to a BOM.
>
> Eventually, I may get around to adding the default scrap to a UD field in the part table and creating a BPM to default the value on the BOM, but this method is working really well for us right now.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "sschaefer323" <sschaefer323@> wrote:
> >
> > I am curious how others are maintaining their bar stock. Do you have a predetermined length that you no longer count as viable inventory? As an example, we are ending up with a quantity of 200 little 4 inch pieces, so the system shows 800 inches in stock, but none of those parts are usable for our needs. This seems to be a maintenance bad dream (not as bad as a nightmare).
> > The easy way out seems to be to just increase the quantity required on the BOM's, but you just know that will come back on us somehow....
> >
> > Stephen Schaefer
> > Abrams Airborne
> >
>
We've found bar our bar feeder produced parts are easiest to manage (from raw bar perspective) by using a UM of FT & indicating 'use whole units' in Part Plant. (Inches is too fine for our parts produced.)This stuff is random length by nature so that helps buffer and nullify the real randomness impact on the systemic model.

We also calculate bar yeilds per machine (alternate part-rev approved methods for use of alternaste equipment) that takes into account the head stock loss (that differ CNC machine to CNC machine unless they are identically tooled & the exact same model - a rarity.)

Between that, having a communication process so that significant actual bar yeilds are communicated back to the job planner (who adjusts job qty to suit) and verification of bar on-hand (cycle counting), it keeps it under enough control.




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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:58:16 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Bar Stock Inventory...

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I am curious how others are maintaining their bar stock. Do you have a predetermined length that you no longer count as viable inventory? As an example, we are ending up with a quantity of 200 little 4 inch pieces, so the system shows 800 inches in stock, but none of those parts are usable for our needs. This seems to be a maintenance bad dream (not as bad as a nightmare).
The easy way out seems to be to just increase the quantity required on the BOM's, but you just know that will come back on us somehow....

Stephen Schaefer
Abrams Airborne







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We are converting from 8.03 to Epicor 9. I am working on UOM and Class
ID's. We are unique in that we try to stock all bars in EACH but
purchase them in Feet. The problem is that we buy tubing in 20'
lengths, pipe in 21 ft lengths, and bar stock in 12', 20', 24', and 40,
lengths. Am I going to have to create a different class ID for each of
these or is there a better way? Any suggestions?



Regards,





Andrew Best

Kice Industries, Inc.

P(316)744-7151

F(316)295-2412





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