Epicor MES hardware requirements - N series CPUs enough horsepower?

Epicor ERP 10
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Hi All,

With Window 10 going EOL in October we know most of our PCs used in manufacturing will need to be replaced with ones that have a TPM chip. Our PCs are basically windows boxes to access Epicor MES(the most demanding application) and run a terminal emulator and other super lightweight applications. Which is pretty crazy to think how much computing power we need to just log in / out of a job(we’d love to move to Linux but for this question we’re assuming we won’t be ready yet)…

I’ve learned Epicor performance(10.2.400) is pretty bad with out SSDs and at least 16 GB of RAM, but I’m a bit unsure for the CPU… I’ve had good success with the inexpensive Beelink minipcs so looking that way. The lower end ones use Intel N series CPUs(they have NVME SSDs and DDR4 16 GB of RAM which should be sufficient), anyone know if these CPUs are sufficient to run Epicor?

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Well the client is fairly lightweight, if its taking a logn time to log in/out of jobs I’d look at your app server / sql servers first.

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A big ask, but personally (and others might disagree).

There is a lot to be liked about using Data Collection. Then it can be just run through the browser. But you are on 10.2.400.

Considering you are on 10.2.400 then and the fact that even a Raspberry PI 5 probably has more compute than the minimum hardware requirements for the client of 10.2.400. I’d guess that any entry level machine with a decent amount of RAM would be satisfactory.

As far as performance goes. If you have having trouble then I’d be wanting to review your servers and network.

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Just out of curiosity how long does it take to login to Epicor and open Part Tracker? For us it takes about 25 seconds on our server. I assume but don’t know newer versions of Epicor are faster as one of our biggest challenges with Epicor is employees complaining the software is to slow, to the point we are now developing custom web interfaces to interact with the APIs to speed things up. I’m not a fan of this approach but I don’t know how to speed up Epicor and don’t know if this is just how it is. That is people are used to applications like Netflix where in a couple seconds I can be streaming a movie in 4k, if you compare Epicor to that Epicor is dog slow in our experiences…

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Everyone at my workplace complains about how slow it is as well. Unless Epicor customers with sufficient heft complain about it, I don’t think it will ever change. They prioritize other things more than performance, most likely because they find other things generate sales…

Remaking a few select screens might make sense, but make sure you don’t get sucked down the rabbit hole of remaking the entire ERP UI. If there are specific screens that are killing you, you might consider making Ideas for improving performance on those screens. If they get enough votes, maybe performance will become more of a priority.

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@Evan_Purdy have you tested out the web interface in new version to compare speed? My understanding was they moved to a Javascript framework which I always assumed would be faster than a .Net windows client as networking equipment, browsers and Javascript libraries have been optimized for HTTP traffic and interacting with REST APIs

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Oh, its faster in many ways, but still nothing someone would call fast. Cutting 45 seconds in half and you are still slow.

I want it to be as fast as the mcmaster website

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Browser is wayyy faster.